63% of Americans Do Not Want Debt Ceiling Raised CBS News/New York Times

[Modbert]

Yea right. You're one of the more well known spammers on this board. Hey,how about another one of your boring trollish "I Hate Palin" or "I Hate Bachmann" threads? You never seem to be out of those huh? So yea,i'll just take your petty insult as a compliment. Can't wait for another one of your "I Hate Palin" threads. You're way over-due for one huh? Such original stuff. See ya.

I haven't made any "I Hate Palin" threads. In fact, I've made a grand total of one Palin thread in 2011.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...alaskans-would-vote-for-obama-over-palin.html

Before that, this is my last OP that had even a mention of Palin:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/138086-tea-party-founder-palin-gingrich-a-joke.html

October 21, 2010.

The last thread before that about Palin herself I made:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/128140-palin-welcomed-home-to-alaska-by-resident.html

August 9, 2010.

Almost an entire year ago.

So your bullshit isn't going to fly.

I make plenty of threads, and a lot of them get ignored because people like yourself can't find something to spin to your partisan advantage.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

So is Massive Debt and raising Debt Limits good for the children or not? I remember a time when this President and many Democrats said it wasn't. So why is it suddenly such a sacred patriotic duty to raise the Debt Limit now? Democrats seem to be lost on this one. They've lost even more credibility.

Just going to keep spamming?

He does it all the time. It's all he's got. He can only remember one Rushbo talking point per day.

Yea not like you "I Hate Bachmann!/I hate Palin!" dorks. You guys are One-Hit Wonders for sure. So excuse me if i don't take your insults all that seriously. We're all anxiously awaiting another one of your boring trollish "I Hate Palin!" threads. Because we just don't get enough of those from you dorks. But hey,good luck with all that. Have a good night.

 

[Charles_Main]

Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage Poll: Voters Don't Want Debt Ceiling Hike

During his press conference addressing the debt ceiling debate Obama said the American public isn’t paying attention to the ins and outs of this debate; essentially saying that the reason so many Americans don’t support allowing the government to raise the current debt limit from the $14 trillion, where it currently stands, is because they are ignorant. That was his response when asked why 63% of Americans side with the Republicans.

He then repeated the false statement that failure to grant to government the ability to continue spend astronomical amounts of money—amounts that I am convinced that the leftists on this board simply don’t comprehend—will inevitably lead to defaulting of America’s debt. This is absolutely not true, nor is it true that it is paramount to the sky falling. The deficit and the debt aren’t the same, and servicing the treasury bonds is completely possible without raising America’s credit limit.

Obama has said the word ‘crisis’ so many times that it has lost its meaning. The American public have seen the results of the stimulus act, and no one is buying that it saved us from some mythical catastrophe, and no one is buying these easy disprovable threats of dire consequences if the government is able to bury itself it debt that--if there is anything this debate has proven it is this-- Democrat lawmakers have no intention of ever reducing or addressing the deficit in many meaningful manner.

The media is baffled as to why Speaker of the House John Boehner is refusing to allow the raising of the debt ceiling, but it is obvious: because 63% of Americans understand the simple fact that if you have a credit card and are maxed out and in debt you do not need a higher credit limit or another credit card.

President Obama is losing this debate, and Boehner is not afraid of defaulting on debt because that is nothing more than propaganda reminiscent of the way this administration has operated the last two years.

Obama and the Democrats are lying through their Teeth about this issue. They keep saying if we do not raise it, we will default.

Pure Horse shit. The Government takes in enough money to service the interest on the debt and not default. Parts of the government would have to shut down, but there is no reason we would have to default on anything.

Nothing but Lies, and scare tactics from Obama as usual.

It's Obama who is refusing to Budge, and not being truthful with the American people.

Makes the quote in my Sig oh so Ironic don't it.

 

[Avatar4321]

So is Massive Debt and raising Debt Limits good for the children or not? I remember a time when this President and many Democrats said it wasn't. So why is it suddenly such a sacred patriotic duty to raise the Debt Limit now? Democrats seem to be lost on this one. They've lost even more credibility.

Just going to keep spamming?

You going to actually address his points instead of ignoring them with condescension.

 

[Avatar4321]

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now?

He wasn't lying either time. This has been brought up and talked about to death. Why are you still asking about it?

In 2006, the economy was humming along nicely and unemployment was normal and THAT should have been the time to talk about debt reduction and deficit management. But the GOP and Bush didn't want to then, so the ceiling got raised with zero discussion.

Now, we are coming out of one of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and unemployment is high and now is the time when a country needs to borrow. Trying to reduce the deficit and the debt now is ludicrous. It was tried in 1937 and had terrible results. Why do now?

See the difference yet? This isn't 2006.

You see, when we don't have money. It's not a good idea to spend more. When you don't have money you tighten your belt and you do without. Not create more spend your grandchild's trust fund.

 

[Charles_Main]

Yea right. You're one of the more well known spammers on this board. Hey,how about another one of your boring trollish "I Hate Palin" or "I Hate Bachmann" threads? You never seem to be out of those huh? So yea,i'll just take your petty insult as a compliment. Can't wait for another one of your "I Hate Palin" threads. You're way over-due for one huh? Such original stuff. See ya.

I haven't made any "I Hate Palin" threads. In fact, I've made a grand total of one Palin thread in 2011.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...alaskans-would-vote-for-obama-over-palin.html

Before that, this is my last OP that had even a mention of Palin:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/138086-tea-party-founder-palin-gingrich-a-joke.html

October 21, 2010.

The last thread before that about Palin herself I made:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/128140-palin-welcomed-home-to-alaska-by-resident.html

August 9, 2010.

Almost an entire year ago.

So your bullshit isn't going to fly.

I make plenty of threads, and a lot of them get ignored because people like yourself can't find something to spin to your partisan advantage.

Your three added to Literally Hundreds of others. Admit it, You lefties are obsessive over her.

 

[Iridescence]

Actually, yes you can.

And that of course is what a smart person would do.

Apparently, smart people endorse reckless spending. Who knew?

What would your suggestion be for things like SS? What 'cuts' would you make then?

 

[WillowTree]

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now?

He wasn't lying either time. This has been brought up and talked about to death. Why are you still asking about it?

In 2006, the economy was humming along nicely and unemployment was normal and THAT should have been the time to talk about debt reduction and deficit management. But the GOP and Bush didn't want to then, so the ceiling got raised with zero discussion.

Now, we are coming out of one of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and unemployment is high and now is the time when a country needs to borrow. Trying to reduce the deficit and the debt now is ludicrous. It was tried in 1937 and had terrible results. Why do now?

See the difference yet? This isn't 2006.

We ain't
coming outta jack shit, obie doodle is digging us in deeper and deeper but you keep drinking that stupid laced kool aid huh?

 

[Modbert]

Your three added to Literally Hundreds of others. Admit it, You lefties are obsessive over her.

Some people on the Left I'm sure do. However, the vast majority do not. As much as you may wish otherwise.

 

[Modbert]

We ain't
coming outta jack shit, obie doodle is digging us in deeper and deeper but you keep drinking that stupid laced kool aid huh?

Corporations are fine. They're just not hiring because they don't need to. Between getting more productivity out of less workers and workers overseas.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea right. You're one of the more well known spammers on this board. Hey,how about another one of your boring trollish "I Hate Palin" or "I Hate Bachmann" threads? You never seem to be out of those huh? So yea,i'll just take your petty insult as a compliment. Can't wait for another one of your "I Hate Palin" threads. You're way over-due for one huh? Such original stuff. See ya.

I haven't made any "I Hate Palin" threads. In fact, I've made a grand total of one Palin thread in 2011.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...alaskans-would-vote-for-obama-over-palin.html

Before that, this is my last OP that had even a mention of Palin:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/138086-tea-party-founder-palin-gingrich-a-joke.html

October 21, 2010.

The last thread before that about Palin herself I made:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/128140-palin-welcomed-home-to-alaska-by-resident.html

August 9, 2010.

Almost an entire year ago.

So your bullshit isn't going to fly.

I make plenty of threads, and a lot of them get ignored because people like yourself can't find something to spin to your partisan advantage.

lol! Yea but now you've moved onto obsessing over and smearing Bachmann. She's just your new Bugaboo. She's replaced Palin as your new wacky obsession. Seriously,you guys are spooky. But hey,enjoy freaking out over Bachmann & Palin. Just don't make so many stupid & boring Posts on that. We get it already,you really really really hate Palin & Bachmann. How many more of your posts on that do we need? Maybe you kooks can go back to your "I Hate DA BOOOOSH!" or "I Hate Glenn Beck!" threads? Even those would be a relief at this point. So do us a favor and think about it huh? You're killing us.

 

[Modbert]

lol! Yea but now you've moved onto obsessing over and smearing Bachmann. She's just your new Bugaboo. She's replaced Palin as your new wacky obsession. Seriously,you guys are spooky. But hey,enjoy freaking out over Bachmann & Palin. Just don't make so many stupid & boring Posts on that. We get it already,you really really really hate Palin & Bachmann. How many more of your posts on that do we need? Maybe you kooks can go back to your "I Hate DA BOOOOSH!" or "I Hate Glenn Beck!" threads? Even those would be a relief at this point. So do us a favor and think about it huh? You're killing us.

Obsessed with Bachmann?

I don't hate her or obsess over her. I think her running is hilarious.

Go make another thread that amounts to nothing more than "I hate Obama".

 

[WillowTree]

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now?

He wasn't lying either time. This has been brought up and talked about to death. Why are you still asking about it?

In 2006, the economy was humming along nicely Yes,, under President Bush.. good for you for acknowledging that fact. heeee haw.and unemployment was normal and THAT should have been the time to talk about debt reduction and deficit management. But the GOP and Bush didn't want to then, so the ceiling got raised with zero discussion.

Now, we are coming out of one of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and unemployment is high and now is the time when a country needs to borrow. Trying to reduce the deficit and the debt now is ludicrous. It was tried in 1937 and had terrible results. Why do now? he's already "borrowed a couple of trillion for "shovel ready" jobs then was giggling that "he wasn't as shovel ready as he thought" in short he's pissed it all away. NO MORE MONEY NO MORE MONEY

See the difference yet? This isn't 2006.

.

 

[skookerasbil]

^^ taxes aint happening s0ns!!!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

^^ taxes aint happening s0ns!!!

Hope you're right.

 

[Toro]

That's the lie you've all bought into innit? What would be catastrophic is to continue doing what we are doing. I'm not an expert not by a long shot but here's what my common sense tells me.

You've heard me say it before. We're a 50/50 nation with a progressive tax system. The takers will soon outnumber the givers. The unemployment rate is 9.2% (more than likely it's higher). That decreases revenues. Default or not, when the takers outnumber the givers it's all over. You should take your dollars and run. A country that relies on socialism ain't gonna stand. The wealthy Americans alread have their contingency plans ready. Class warfare rarely works either. Misguided Misguided Misguided.. and then of course there's the hypocrisy of obiedoodle. When he was a Senator he said "raising the debt ceiling is a sign of failed leadership." Did you believe him then? or now? I believe him NEVER.

Willow, I like you, but I think this is delusional. I think you, like most conservatives, are so wrapped up in your intense dislike of the man and his policies, you cannot even fathom that your actions could be tremendously harmful to this country. You can strongly disagree with Obama but realize that not raising the debt ceiling could be enormously damaging. Most of my colleagues do not support Obama but think not raising the debt ceiling is just nuts.

I could be dead wrong on this, but I think a default could set off a chain of events that could be much worse than the bankruptcy of Lehman. If the debt ceiling is not raised, I am getting every single dollar I have out of America. Now, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but there is zero upside to betting that something good will happen from this over the next while and huge unknown downside. I'm not sticking around to find out.

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now? Oh and btw,, we've been told by da man and his chicago co horts many many times that there will be dire catastropic consequences if we didn't do it his way.. how's that working out doyathink?

I'm not going to defend any politician who cravenly votes for political gain. A more charitable interpretation is that he didn't understand the consequences then. A more cynical interpretation is that he voted against it because he knew it would pass anyways. He doesn't have credibility on this issue? Join the effin' club. Of the 60 n00b Tea Bag Congressmen, I can guarantee you that at least some of them know the potential dire consequences of default but will vote against raising the debt ceiling anyways for political expediency. Wow, shocking.

 

[Trajan]

Your three added to Literally Hundreds of others. Admit it, You lefties are obsessive over her.

Some people on the Left I'm sure do. However, the vast majority do not. As much as you may wish otherwise.

well judging by the media, there is a ton of palin angst and outrage......its pathological.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Your three added to Literally Hundreds of others. Admit it, You lefties are obsessive over her.

Some people on the Left I'm sure do. However, the vast majority do not. As much as you may wish otherwise.

well judging by the media, there is a ton of palin angst and outrage......its pathological.

Bachmann has replaced Palin as their new Bugaboo for the moment. I'm sure they'll get back to obsessing over Palin at some point though. It's an illness for them now. But for right now,we'll have to endure endless pointless threads on how much the Left/Democrats just hate that Bachmann woman. Such stale and annoying stuff. They should just open a "I Hate Bachmann" Sub-forum and be done with it. Spare us this boring nightmare.

 

[Google]

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now?

He wasn't lying either time. This has been brought up and talked about to death. Why are you still asking about it?

In 2006, the economy was humming along nicely and unemployment was normal and THAT should have been the time to talk about debt reduction and deficit management. But the GOP and Bush didn't want to then, so the ceiling got raised with zero discussion.

Now, we are coming out of one of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and unemployment is high and now is the time when a country needs to borrow. Trying to reduce the deficit and the debt now is ludicrous. It was tried in 1937 and had terrible results. Why do now?

See the difference yet? This isn't 2006.

In 2006, during a time of economic tranquility, the debt ceiling was raised. Now lets continue with that comparison. Why, if it is so urgent now, did the Democrats not insist that taxes be raised then? Why was Obama against raising the debt ceiling in 2006? Raising taxes would have been easier to accomplish during a time of economic growth.

Former president Clinton and Obama have both stated publicly that raising taxes during a recession is counter-productive, yet it is essential now.

See the difference yet?

 

[Google]

You didn't answer my basic question did you? Was he lying then or is he lying now?

He wasn't lying either time. This has been brought up and talked about to death. Why are you still asking about it?

In 2006, the economy was humming along nicely and unemployment was normal and THAT should have been the time to talk about debt reduction and deficit management. But the GOP and Bush didn't want to then, so the ceiling got raised with zero discussion.

Now, we are coming out of one of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and unemployment is high and now is the time when a country needs to borrow. Trying to reduce the deficit and the debt now is ludicrous. It was tried in 1937 and had terrible results. Why do now?

See the difference yet? This isn't 2006.

There are so many inconsistencies in this one post it makes me dizzy.

You admit that the economy is in deplorable shape, but you continue with the proven false premise that more government spending is the answer. The stimulus act spend $666 billion and achieved none of its stated goals.

The Democrats are on the record saying that we need more stimulus, and we are supposed to believe that any agreements in spending cuts are going to be sincere?

Raising taxes isn't the answer, the country needs more tax payers. That will solve all the problems of this country.

You do that a lot though, concede a fact without admitting that fact has anything to do with the overall picture. A large majority of Americans disagree with you and Obama on this issue, but that's because they are stupid. They were brilliant when they voted him in, but when they disagree they are stupid.

2006 the debt ceiling was raised without increasing taxes, but now it is simply impossible. We are in a horrible economy, but Obama and the last two years being in office has nothing to do with it.