60 years ago, Edward Murrow took down Joe Mccarthy

[CrusaderFrank]

One of his assistants was quoted some time after McCarthy's fall that when he made his first speech in which he claimed to holding in his hand a list of 205 communists in the State Department, it was actually a laundry list.


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Fortunately for all of us, he drank himself to death.

Thankfully FDR died before he could give away even more of the world to his Communist Puppet Masters

Ignorance of real history is no excuse for dumb posts.

FDR backed history's two biggest mass murderers: Mao and "Uncle" Joe Stalin. They murdered about 100 million people between the two of them.

Mao got US backing because the Communist running our State Dept told FDR that Mao was "Democratic" and "Progressive" and they were right.

The USSR got Eastern Europe because the Communists in the WH and State thought it was a good idea.

As I said, Joe McCarthy noticed that the Democrat White House under FDR and Truman were Soviet satellites doing the bidding of the Communists and he was a little shy about saying so.

The USSR tried to start WWIII in 1949, the ChiComs were killing US troops in Korea in 1950 and between the 2 events Joe McCarthy made his first speech which only scratched the surface of Democrat subservience to the wishes of the Communists -- and for that they say he started a "Red Scare"

McCarthy is with the Angels, FDR is in Satan's mouth with the other fucking traitors to their country and principles

 

[JakeStarkey]

This "FDR backed history's two biggest mass murderers: Mao and "Uncle" Joe Stalin. They murdered about 100 million people between the two of them" ignores that the rest of the 'free' world, including UK and France and Poland, did the same.

See an idea (FDR loved Stalin) is not automatically a fact.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This "FDR backed history's two biggest mass murderers: Mao and "Uncle" Joe Stalin. They murdered about 100 million people between the two of them" ignores that the rest of the 'free' world, including UK and France and Poland, did the same.

See an idea (FDR loved Stalin) is not automatically a fact.

I'm not saying FDR loved him, merely that he did Stalin's bidding; does every housemaid have to love their Master?

Also, who was looking to Poland for World Leadership during and after WWII?

 

[Mushroom]

You got it right about Bobby Kennedy, but not John.

Actually, he has it right.

Both Senators JFK and Nixon were strong supporters of Senator McCarthy (as was Joe Kennedy Sr), and this was one of the main reasons why Robert Kennedy got the job on the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

But please, surely you can provide some proof to back up your claims.

 

[whitehall]

...and this, ladies and gentleman, is the tragic result of home schooling....

And your posts are but tired cliches which state nothing more than the conventional dumbness of the day.

You help perpetuate other's ignorance like your own.

Also, for trivia buffs, "Tailgunner Joe's" career was the inspiration for the movie, "The Manchurian Candidate" in 1962. The candidate for VP in the movie was based on Joe's career. The character is an undercover dupe of the Chinese communists, forever waving pieces of paper purportedly listing names of communists in the State Department. When he complains to his "handler" (his wife), that she is always changing the number of communists that he is exposing, she replies, "Just keep yelling "point of order". to the chairman of the House un-American Activities Committee. Nobody is asking IF there are communists in the State Department. They are asking "How MANY communists are in the State department".

And Mojo, I was watching when Joe was destroying people and their careers, in order to advance his own career. You were not. Murrow took him down, and when Joe looked for support in his own party, even Ike turned his back on him. The man was evil personified. He was a fraud, and opportunist, and a drunk. He was also the most dangerous man in politics that this country has ever seen. He even went after George Marshall, who was the senior military officer in WW2.

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It was a great movie and Sinatra was at his acting best. The problem was that Hollywood had to tread a fine line. On one hand they admitted that Communism was the enemy of democracy but they had to pretend that the McCarthy character was really a Communist dupe. It didn't work in that respect but the low information Americans bought the plot.

 

[regent]

The Republican party must be proud and indebted to Senator McCarthy for his contributions to the America and the Republican party. Did the Republican party erect any monuments to McCarthy?

 

[Mushroom]

The Republican party must be proud and indebted to Senator McCarthy for his contributions to the America and the Republican party. Did the Republican party erect any monuments to McCarthy?

Yes.

It stands right next to the HUAC, which was controlled by the Democrats.

 

[whitehall]

The Republican party must be proud and indebted to Senator McCarthy for his contributions to the America and the Republican party. Did the Republican party erect any monuments to McCarthy?

Why would the republican party erect a monument to McCarthy? He wasn't even a committee chairman. The low information pop-culture educated left seems way too fixated in senator McCarthy when democrats were in power and freaking "give 'em hell" Harry Truman who created HUAC was president.

 

[Mushroom]

Why would the republican party erect a monument to McCarthy? He wasn't even a committee chairman. The low information pop-culture educated left seems way too fixated in senator McCarthy when democrats were in power and freaking "give 'em hell" Harry Truman who created HUAC was president.

Actually, he was the Chair of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

And it still exists to this day, with Democrat Carl Levin as Chair.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Republican party must be proud and indebted to Senator McCarthy for his contributions to the America and the Republican party. Did the Republican party erect any monuments to McCarthy?

He exposed the FDR White House as being a Soviet Satellite; so yeah, he's good

 

[JakeStarkey]

You got it right about Bobby Kennedy, but not John.

Actually, he has it right.

Both Senators JFK and Nixon were strong supporters of Senator McCarthy (as was Joe Kennedy Sr), and this was one of the main reasons why Robert Kennedy got the job on the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

But please, surely you can provide some proof to back up your claims.

You were the one who made the claim about John and you can't back it up. Straight fact. There is no question that Bobby later repented of associating with the slime.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This "FDR backed history's two biggest mass murderers: Mao and "Uncle" Joe Stalin. They murdered about 100 million people between the two of them" ignores that the rest of the 'free' world, including UK and France and Poland, did the same.

See an idea (FDR loved Stalin) is not automatically a fact.

I'm not saying FDR loved him, merely that he did Stalin's bidding; does every housemaid have to love their Master?

Also, who was looking to Poland for World Leadership during and after WWII?

Deflection will not work, CF; it never has for you.

No one did Stalin's bidding. The rest of the free world, which you ignored, supported the USSR, UK, and USA.

Why you, like Political Chic, would want FDR to ally with Hitler rather than Stalin is absolutely insane.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This "FDR backed history's two biggest mass murderers: Mao and "Uncle" Joe Stalin. They murdered about 100 million people between the two of them" ignores that the rest of the 'free' world, including UK and France and Poland, did the same.

See an idea (FDR loved Stalin) is not automatically a fact.

I'm not saying FDR loved him, merely that he did Stalin's bidding; does every housemaid have to love their Master?

Also, who was looking to Poland for World Leadership during and after WWII?

Deflection will not work, CF; it never has for you.

No one did Stalin's bidding. The rest of the free world, which you ignored, supported the USSR, UK, and USA.

Why you, like Political Chic, would want FDR to ally with Hitler rather than Stalin is absolutely insane.

FDR did Stalin's bidding. He might not have realized it. But that's what happened. He listened to Stalin's guys so there's no real difference

 

[Mushroom]

You were the one who made the claim about John and you can't back it up. Straight fact. There is no question that Bobby later repented of associating with the slime.

There were also other deep personal bonds between JFK and McCarthy by the time McCarthy reached the peak of his power in 1952 and 1953. Not only had McCarthy been a frequent guest at the Kennedy compound in Hyannis, but McCarthy had also dated two Kenendy sisters, first Eunice (the mother of Maria Shriver) and then Pat (who later married actor Peter Lawford). McCarthy was invited to the wedding reception for Eunice and Sargent Shriver, and even presented Eunice with a silver cigarette case inscribed "To Eunice and Bob from one who lost."

The ties with Bobby were forged when he gave RFK a job as minority counsel to his Senate committee investigating domestic communism. Though RFK would later have an intense falling out with McCarthy's other counsel Roy Cohn, the younger Kennedy brother would maintain a deep loyalty to a man he loved enough to make the godfather of his first child. In 1955, Bobby displayed his residual feelings of loyalty for McCarthy even after the Senator's fall into disgrace at a dinner meeting described by the court historian of Camelot himself, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.

"Still his Irish conception of loyalty turned him against some he felt had treated McCarthy unfairly. In January 1955, Edward R. Murrow [who had issued a famous anti-McCarthy telecast the previous year] spoke at the banquet honoring those, Kennedy among them, who had been selected by the Junior Chamber of Commerce as the Ten Outstanding Young Men of 1954. Kennedy grimly walked out."

JFK's warmth for McCarthy was not as great as Bobby's, but he still felt enough of McCarthy to have performed a similar act three years earlier at the 100th Anniversary of the Harvard Spree Club dinner. Robert Armory, who had been at the dinner and who later worked in the Kennedy Administration recalled in an oral history at the JFK Library that when a speaker had likened McCarthy to the convicted Soviet spy Alger Hiss, JFK rose to his feet and declared "How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot with that of a traitor!" and walked out. The incident has never been denied by anyone who was there, and is accepted by JFK biographers Herbert Parmet, Thomas Reeves and Chris Matthews.

The Kennedys and McCarthyism

I encourage you to read the book referenced in the above, "Kennedy and Nixon:The Rivalry that Shaped Postwar America" by Chris Matthews. A fascinating book, that shows sides of both men that few suspect.

I also find it ironic that after Chris Matthews became a political hack, he made a statement that "JFK would never support Richard Nixon". He appeared on the Bill O'Riley show, and then Bill proceeded to tear apart his claim from his own writings (including the statement that JFK would have campaigned for Nixon if he had lost his party's nomination). Poor Chris could not believe he was being refuted by his own book, it was classic.