6 million jobs gone since 2008 LINK

[8537]

My ignorance? Look in the mirror dude. YOU have no idea on their "methodology", yet because they "say so", it must be true. Now go drink some more of that orange Kool-Aid.
Where do they get these people?

Yes, your ignorance. I know exactly what the methodology is - in fact, I've filled out paperwork as part of the calculation.

The methodology is to survey recipients of stimulus funds with two straightforward questions. Paraphrased:

1) how many people did you hire because of the project funded by ARRA funding?
2) how many positions were maintained due to ARRA funding that otherwise would have been let go?

These basic questions are part of every ARRA report.

Now go drink a beer, relax and educate yourself.

If you believe your bullshit, your a bigger fool than you even know.

So, instead of doing any independent research you'll just call it bullshit? You must be a great Rush listener.

Your talking about unions who would say anything because they are the benefactors of this great payback from obama. Your are one ignorant buffoon.

Whose talking about unions? I haven't even mentioned them and they didn't receive ARRA funds. Please do try to stay on topic.

 

[Meister]

Yes, your ignorance. I know exactly what the methodology is - in fact, I've filled out paperwork as part of the calculation.

The methodology is to survey recipients of stimulus funds with two straightforward questions. Paraphrased:

1) how many people did you hire because of the project funded by ARRA funding?
2) how many positions were maintained due to ARRA funding that otherwise would have been let go?

These basic questions are part of every ARRA report.

Now go drink a beer, relax and educate yourself.

If you believe your bullshit, your a bigger fool than you even know.

So, instead of doing any independent research you'll just call it bullshit? You must be a great Rush listener.

Your talking about unions who would say anything because they are the benefactors of this great payback from obama. Your are one ignorant buffoon.

Whose talking about unions? I haven't even mentioned them and they didn't receive ARRA funds. Please do try to stay on topic.

UNIONS are the ones who got the lions share of the stimulus.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JRK]

If you believe your bullshit, your a bigger fool than you even know.

So, instead of doing any independent research you'll just call it bullshit? You must be a great Rush listener.

Your talking about unions who would say anything because they are the benefactors of this great payback from obama. Your are one ignorant buffoon.

Whose talking about unions? I haven't even mentioned them and they didn't receive ARRA funds. Please do try to stay on topic.

UNIONS are the ones who got the lions share of the stimulus.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

look 8537 has no desire to debate the facts
he is angry about being something
and yes the unions got most of the stimulus as well as the tarp Obama took from the tax payer after it was no longer needed for the banks

he keeps talking about events that GWB had nothing to do with like he planned them
it is simple
2007 we where 162 billion from breaking even, the last GOP budget
2011 we are 1.5 trillion

what was added?
what was lost

6 million jobs is all

he cannot defend that
no one can

 

[Patrick2]

The lack of jobs is right on obama's doorstep. no place else. He promised the shovel ready jobs with his porkulus - didn't work.

The long term loss of jobs has to do with leftwing government policies: the importation of tens of millions of illegal aliens, and reducing american competitiveness with EPA rules, "affirmative action", anti-corporate actions, government regulation.

 

[8537]

If you believe your bullshit, your a bigger fool than you even know.

So, instead of doing any independent research you'll just call it bullshit? You must be a great Rush listener.

Your talking about unions who would say anything because they are the benefactors of this great payback from obama. Your are one ignorant buffoon.

Whose talking about unions? I haven't even mentioned them and they didn't receive ARRA funds. Please do try to stay on topic.

UNIONS are the ones who got the lions share of the stimulus.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unions got ARRA funds? Give me some examples.

 

[8537]

So, instead of doing any independent research you'll just call it bullshit? You must be a great Rush listener.



Whose talking about unions? I haven't even mentioned them and they didn't receive ARRA funds. Please do try to stay on topic.

UNIONS are the ones who got the lions share of the stimulus.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

look 8537 has no desire to debate the facts
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Look, JRK - facts are not debatable. Because I actually bring facts to the table, you put me on ignore. Reality is not a place of pixel dust where you get to make up your own facts as you are prone to do.

Of course, you can't read this because while you are boy enough to disparage me, you are not man enough to discuss facts with me.

 

[JRK]

The lack of jobs is right on obama's doorstep. no place else. He promised the shovel ready jobs with his porkulus - didn't work.

The long term loss of jobs has to do with leftwing government policies: the importation of tens of millions of illegal aliens, and reducing american competitiveness with EPA rules, "affirmative action", anti-corporate actions, government regulation.

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR began in the 80s
people who work also will balance the budget with the wealth they provide
not by blaming others and thinking printing money will do it
every problem in some manner you touched on
we have to allow this engine to breath on its own with restrictions that are to a minimum and are only there where needed

not allowing this economy to grow for reasons that have no explanation nor reason has reached its end

 

[Meister]

Nothing like working for the unions with this administration


“Two years after the ‘stimulus’ was signed, we’ve lost 1.8 million private sector jobs.”

But most of actual stimulus outlays have not gone to building highways, airport runways, and wind farms.
Instead, a large part of the stimulus was dedicated to bolstering government jobs — public school teachers, police officers, state caseworkers, and other public-sector employees — by funneling federal money to the state and local governments.The money went chiefly in two channels: added funds for Medicaid and for public schools.
According to GAO, about 63 percent of the stimulus outlays has been provided in the form of the increased Medicaid funding and education money.
Stimulus turns two: What's changed? - politics - msnbc.com

 

[Meister]

There are reasons for the unemployment is where it is, just have to look at the current administration and its policies.


President Barack Obama is strangling the business climate in the United States with his constant stream of regulations, says hospitality and casino giant Steve Wynn.

"I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime," Wynn said in an investor conference call published by Business Insider.

"I could spend the next three hours giving you examples of all of us in this marketplace that are frightened to death about all the new regulations, our healthcare costs escalate, regulations coming from left and right."
http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Steve-Wynn-Obama-Killing/2011/07/19/id/404088

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Nothing like working for the unions with this administration


“Two years after the ‘stimulus’ was signed, we’ve lost 1.8 million private sector jobs.”

But most of actual stimulus outlays have not gone to building highways, airport runways, and wind farms.
Instead, a large part of the stimulus was dedicated to bolstering government jobs — public school teachers, police officers, state caseworkers, and other public-sector employees — by funneling federal money to the state and local governments.The money went chiefly in two channels: added funds for Medicaid and for public schools.
According to GAO, about 63 percent of the stimulus outlays has been provided in the form of the increased Medicaid funding and education money.
Stimulus turns two: What's changed? - politics - msnbc.com

Seriously, I hope the government shuts down and along with it the USPS, Amtrak, the EPA, the USDoE, etc. Life will go on. You fuckers want Amtrak, then if the cost of a ticket from Philly to DC is $400, then YOU pay it. You love the USPS? Then guess what, it costs $2 to mail a First Class letter. Let people start paying the true cost...

 

[JRK]

Nothing like working for the unions with this administration


“Two years after the ‘stimulus’ was signed, we’ve lost 1.8 million private sector jobs.”

But most of actual stimulus outlays have not gone to building highways, airport runways, and wind farms.
Instead, a large part of the stimulus was dedicated to bolstering government jobs — public school teachers, police officers, state caseworkers, and other public-sector employees — by funneling federal money to the state and local governments.The money went chiefly in two channels: added funds for Medicaid and for public schools.
According to GAO, about 63 percent of the stimulus outlays has been provided in the form of the increased Medicaid funding and education money.
Stimulus turns two: What's changed? - politics - msnbc.com

also let us not forget the 80 billion the UAW got from tarp
they have only paid back about 12 billion of it
Treasury gets $11.7b in GM stock sale - Boston.com

 

[Meister]

Our country has one of the highest corporate taxes in the world...higher than China.

At the end of the day when the corporate taxes rise with all the other taxes there will be more corporations fleeing to business friendly countries and we will have even higher unemployment. 2013....can't wait for it.

 

[8537]

Our country has one of the highest corporate taxes in the world...higher than China.

No, our country has one of the highest statutory corporate tax rates. It has one of the lowest effective corporate tax rates. In fact, it's the second lowest as a % of GDP in the developed world.

 

[8537]

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR did in the 80s
d

For those keeping score at home, that's a lie.

In the 1970's, this economy created about 17M jobs
In the 1980's, about 17M jobs.
In the 1990's, about 19 Jobs.
In the aughts, net of about zero.

 

[JRK]

Our country has one of the highest corporate taxes in the world...higher than China.

At the end of the day when the corporate taxes rise with all the other taxes there will be more corporations fleeing to business friendly countries and we will have even higher unemployment. 2013....can't wait for it.

in addition raising corprate taxes is nothing more than a tax hike on the consumer
corporations have no money tree
there wealth comes from the service and or the product they provide for the consumer. As there rate of tax increases that is the same as an increase on there cost
If they do not cover that expense they will be out of business
Unless of course they have the UAW building there product

Simply put when there rate is increased
we the consumer pays for it

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR did in the 80s
d

For those keeping score at home, that's a lie.

In the 1970's, this economy created about 17M jobs
In the 1980's, about 17M jobs.
In the 1990's, about 19 Jobs.
In the aughts, net of about zero.

Clinton created 19 jobs? Better tell that to the Clintonistas cause they claim he ran a surplus' and created like, 8 trillion jobs.

Funny, you get to Bush... and the numbers become guesswork.

 

[JRK]

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR did in the 80s
d

For those keeping score at home, that's a lie.

In the 1970's, this economy created about 17M jobs
In the 1980's, about 17M jobs.
In the 1990's, about 19 Jobs.
In the aughts, net of about zero.

Clinton created 19 jobs? Better tell that to the Clintonistas cause they claim he ran a surplus' and created like, 8 trillion jobs.

Funny, you get to Bush... and the numbers become guesswork.

My point was from the 80s to present
it began with RR
I did write the thread wrong, it was not my intent
by the way
6 million from 03-08
I have no reason to have lied about that
you can find these numbers with the this very thread I began
any-one who has read my threads know that
it wasa incorrect in verbage only, and statting it was a lie is the liberal ignoring the fact we have lost 6 million jobs sense 08
for my error, I apoligize

 

[JRK]

The lack of jobs is right on obama's doorstep. no place else. He promised the shovel ready jobs with his porkulus - didn't work.

The long term loss of jobs has to do with leftwing government policies: the importation of tens of millions of illegal aliens, and reducing american competitiveness with EPA rules, "affirmative action", anti-corporate actions, government regulation.

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR began in the 80s
people who work also will balance the budget with the wealth they provide
not by blaming others and thinking printing money will do it
every problem in some manner you touched on
we have to allow this engine to breath on its own with restrictions that are to a minimum and are only there where needed

not allowing this economy to grow for reasons that have no explanation nor reason has reached its end

It is now corrected

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

For those keeping score at home, that's a lie.

In the 1970's, this economy created about 17M jobs
In the 1980's, about 17M jobs.
In the 1990's, about 19 Jobs.
In the aughts, net of about zero.

Clinton created 19 jobs? Better tell that to the Clintonistas cause they claim he ran a surplus' and created like, 8 trillion jobs.

Funny, you get to Bush... and the numbers become guesswork.

My point was from the 80s to present
it began with RR
I did write the thread wrong, it was not my intent
by the way
6 million from 03-08
I have no reason to have lied about that
you can find these numbers with the this very thread I began
any-one who has read my threads know that
it wasa incorrect in verbage only, and statting it was a lie is the liberal ignoring the fact we have lost 6 million jobs sense 08
for my error, I apoligize

Wasn't calling you a liar, just razzing ya... and no need to apologize.

 

[8537]

there is much truth in your thread
our next president has to take the role that creates the next 40 millon jobs like RR did in the 80s
d

For those keeping score at home, that's a lie.

In the 1970's, this economy created about 17M jobs
In the 1980's, about 17M jobs.
In the 1990's, about 19 Jobs.
In the aughts, net of about zero.

Clinton created 19 jobs? Better tell that to the Clintonistas cause they claim he ran a surplus' and created like, 8 trillion jobs.

Funny, you get to Bush... and the numbers become guesswork.

Well, Clinton DID create 19 jobs....for defense attorneys and hookers.

But anyway, as the aughts are concerned the number is so close to zero you can't place an "M" after it...and I didn't want to type six figures.