$36 Trillion for Clean Energy, IEA reports.

[Skull Pilot]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
.........................................................................................................................................

"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

Once again you refuse to look at real performance and not just installed nominal capacity

Multiply all your number by at least 4 if not 6 to get the cost of the actual output to match the rated capacity then don't forget to replace your windmills every 20 years or less

 

[Skull Pilot]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

According to Oncor, the largest utility in Texas, the break even point for grid scale storage is $350 per kw/hr. Right now, Tesla is building and selling grid scale batteries for $250 per kw/hr, and expects the cost to decline to $100 per kw/hr by 2025.

Because of present wasted generating capacity, Oncor states that adding significant grid storage would actually reduce the cost to the customer.

and we'll need many millions of them and don't forget to factor in the losses of battery storage and the conversion from DC to AC power

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

 

[Old Rocks]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
.........................................................................................................................................

"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

Once again you refuse to look at real performance and not just installed nominal capacity

Multiply all your number by at least 4 if not 6 to get the cost of the actual output to match the rated capacity then don't forget to replace your windmills every 20 years or less

And you have to do major maintenance on coal, nukes, or natural gas in that same time period. The difference is that with a wind turbine, you just replace the old turbine with a new one, and then rebuild the old turbine. And you can do this on a wind farm without shutting down any of the other turbines. Where, with the others, you have to shut down the plant, and lose many 100's of megawatts of generating power for the duration.

 

[SSDD]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

Doubt that they even last out the year...then we will see how much the private sector is biting at the bullet to invest in renewables...

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

They can remove the subsidies right now, and wind and solar still remain the least costly forms on new generation. Right now, solar and wind are the primary installation in new generation.

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

OK, you are comparing what is not doing the job in the UK and Germany with what is succeeding here in the US. LOL

Like I said, those pie in the sky ultra-Liberal Texans are installing wind and solar by the gigawatt as we post. And will continue to do so even if the subsidies are terminated.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The UK learned their lesson and is funding a small reactor program that will be a boon to their country and their economy when after wind power fails here like it did there and we buy the British reactors because we were too stupid to invest in them urselves

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

 

[Skull Pilot]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

OK, you are comparing what is not doing the job in the UK and Germany with what is succeeding here in the US. LOL

Like I said, those pie in the sky ultra-Liberal Texans are installing wind and solar by the gigawatt as we post. And will continue to do so even if the subsidies are terminated.

The turbines are the same, the wind is the same so why do you expect a better outcome?

And don't forget an installed GW is really less than .25 GW in actual power

 

[Skull Pilot]

Wind power has failed to deliver what it promised

 

[percysunshine]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
.........................................................................................................................................

"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

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Your tax dollars at work subsidizing the manufacture of money losing investments.

 

[Old Rocks]

The UK learned their lesson and is funding a small reactor program that will be a boon to their country and their economy when after wind power fails here like it did there and we buy the British reactors because we were too stupid to invest in them urselves

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

As more delays beset Hinckley C, Paul Willson, head of innovation for power generation at WSP | Parsons Brinckerhoff, looks at small modular nuclear reactors

The UK is en route to becoming a global leader in small modular reactors, after chancellor George Osborne announced support for the technology through a £250m research and development programme. A competition has since been launched by the Department for Energy & Climate Change to identify the best-value small modular reactor design for the UK.

Amber Rudd, the energy secretary, has that 38 companies had submitted expressions of interest to participate in the competition. They are being notified whther they have been approved for the next phase. Bidders are understood to include the American groups Westinghouse and Bechtel, as well as CNNC, a Chinese state-controlled company, and a Korean-led consortium linked to the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute. Britain’s Rolls-Royce is also involved as part of NuScale Power, a US-led group headed by Fluor, another US engineering giant.

This scale of spending clearly demonstrates the government’s commitment to the British nuclear industry and will help secure the UK’s low-carbon energy supply.

Searching for the best design, are they? So, this is basic research, not a production program. And how many decades before they find that best design? Pie in the sky bullshit.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
.........................................................................................................................................

"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

Once again you refuse to look at real performance and not just installed nominal capacity

Multiply all your number by at least 4 if not 6 to get the cost of the actual output to match the rated capacity then don't forget to replace your windmills every 20 years or less

And you have to do major maintenance on coal, nukes, or natural gas in that same time period. The difference is that with a wind turbine, you just replace the old turbine with a new one, and then rebuild the old turbine. And you can do this on a wind farm without shutting down any of the other turbines. Where, with the others, you have to shut down the plant, and lose many 100's of megawatts of generating power for the duration.

only on the current obsolete light water reactors that we use today

Next gen reactors are virtually maintenance free and only need be refueled every 20 or 30 years, they are walk away safe and do not need to be installed near large bodies of water, are more secure because they can be buried underground, less expensive because they can be mass produced in factories instead of built on sight, do not require the tons of concrete and steel since they run at atmosphere and not under pressure

and they will actually produce 90% or better of their rated capacity 24\7\365

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

OK, you are comparing what is not doing the job in the UK and Germany with what is succeeding here in the US. LOL

Like I said, those pie in the sky ultra-Liberal Texans are installing wind and solar by the gigawatt as we post. And will continue to do so even if the subsidies are terminated.

The turbines are the same, the wind is the same so why do you expect a better outcome?

And don't forget an installed GW is really less than .25 GW in actual power

Silly ass, it is not 'expect a better outcome', it is they already have a better outcome and are moving to get an even better one by installing significantly more turbines and solar, with grid scale storage a part of the equation. In fact, Oncor estimates that adding grid scale storage would be the equivalent of adding four nukes to the Texas grid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The UK learned their lesson and is funding a small reactor program that will be a boon to their country and their economy when after wind power fails here like it did there and we buy the British reactors because we were too stupid to invest in them urselves

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

As more delays beset Hinckley C, Paul Willson, head of innovation for power generation at WSP | Parsons Brinckerhoff, looks at small modular nuclear reactors

The UK is en route to becoming a global leader in small modular reactors, after chancellor George Osborne announced support for the technology through a £250m research and development programme. A competition has since been launched by the Department for Energy & Climate Change to identify the best-value small modular reactor design for the UK.

Amber Rudd, the energy secretary, has that 38 companies had submitted expressions of interest to participate in the competition. They are being notified whther they have been approved for the next phase. Bidders are understood to include the American groups Westinghouse and Bechtel, as well as CNNC, a Chinese state-controlled company, and a Korean-led consortium linked to the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute. Britain’s Rolls-Royce is also involved as part of NuScale Power, a US-led group headed by Fluor, another US engineering giant.

This scale of spending clearly demonstrates the government’s commitment to the British nuclear industry and will help secure the UK’s low-carbon energy supply.

Searching for the best design, are they? So, this is basic research, not a production program. And how many decades before they find that best design? Pie in the sky bullshit.

the designs already exist it's just a matter of choosing one

but you would rather waste money on a power supply that only produces 25% of its installed capacity

If we hadn't shut down our nuclear program like we did we'd be decades ahead of our current position which is basically the stone age of nuclear power

 

[Old Rocks]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
.........................................................................................................................................

"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

Once again you refuse to look at real performance and not just installed nominal capacity

Multiply all your number by at least 4 if not 6 to get the cost of the actual output to match the rated capacity then don't forget to replace your windmills every 20 years or less

And you have to do major maintenance on coal, nukes, or natural gas in that same time period. The difference is that with a wind turbine, you just replace the old turbine with a new one, and then rebuild the old turbine. And you can do this on a wind farm without shutting down any of the other turbines. Where, with the others, you have to shut down the plant, and lose many 100's of megawatts of generating power for the duration.

only on the current obsolete light water reactors that we use today

Next gen reactors are virtually maintenance free and only need be refueled every 20 or 30 years, they are walk away safe and do not need to be installed near large bodies of water, are more secure because they can be buried underground, less expensive because they can be mass produced in factories instead of built on sight, do not require the tons of concrete and steel since they run at atmosphere and not under pressure

and they will actually produce 90% or better of their rated capacity 24\7\365

And we can buy one of these marvels at present, where? Link please. No pie in the sky promises, a working module right now, where can a utility get one right now?

 

[Skull Pilot]

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

You are unable to read? Cost per kw/hr delivered. And wind and solar beat nuclear hands down in that comparison. Rated versus actual output is irrelevant when making that comparison.

Sorry but real world numbers from the UK and Germany do not agree.

and don't forget to remove the tax subsidies which will not last forever as well

OK, you are comparing what is not doing the job in the UK and Germany with what is succeeding here in the US. LOL

Like I said, those pie in the sky ultra-Liberal Texans are installing wind and solar by the gigawatt as we post. And will continue to do so even if the subsidies are terminated.

The turbines are the same, the wind is the same so why do you expect a better outcome?

And don't forget an installed GW is really less than .25 GW in actual power

Silly ass, it is not 'expect a better outcome', it is they already have a better outcome and are moving to get an even better one by installing significantly more turbines and solar, with grid scale storage a part of the equation. In fact, Oncor estimates that adding grid scale storage would be the equivalent of adding four nukes to the Texas grid.

so install more and you think installing more pieces of equipment that under perform by 75% of ratings cost effective?

There go you imagined savings

 

[Skull Pilot]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
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"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

Once again you refuse to look at real performance and not just installed nominal capacity

Multiply all your number by at least 4 if not 6 to get the cost of the actual output to match the rated capacity then don't forget to replace your windmills every 20 years or less

And you have to do major maintenance on coal, nukes, or natural gas in that same time period. The difference is that with a wind turbine, you just replace the old turbine with a new one, and then rebuild the old turbine. And you can do this on a wind farm without shutting down any of the other turbines. Where, with the others, you have to shut down the plant, and lose many 100's of megawatts of generating power for the duration.

only on the current obsolete light water reactors that we use today

Next gen reactors are virtually maintenance free and only need be refueled every 20 or 30 years, they are walk away safe and do not need to be installed near large bodies of water, are more secure because they can be buried underground, less expensive because they can be mass produced in factories instead of built on sight, do not require the tons of concrete and steel since they run at atmosphere and not under pressure

and they will actually produce 90% or better of their rated capacity 24\7\365

And we can buy one of these marvels at present, where? Link please. No pie in the sky promises, a working module right now, where can a utility get one right now?

We could have them up and running in a decade if we so chose but we don't. We'd rather waste money thinking wind and solar will meet our ever growing power demands

 

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The UK learned their lesson and is funding a small reactor program that will be a boon to their country and their economy when after wind power fails here like it did there and we buy the British reactors because we were too stupid to invest in them urselves

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

Rethinking nuclear - why modular reactors are the future

As more delays beset Hinckley C, Paul Willson, head of innovation for power generation at WSP | Parsons Brinckerhoff, looks at small modular nuclear reactors

The UK is en route to becoming a global leader in small modular reactors, after chancellor George Osborne announced support for the technology through a £250m research and development programme. A competition has since been launched by the Department for Energy & Climate Change to identify the best-value small modular reactor design for the UK.

Amber Rudd, the energy secretary, has that 38 companies had submitted expressions of interest to participate in the competition. They are being notified whther they have been approved for the next phase. Bidders are understood to include the American groups Westinghouse and Bechtel, as well as CNNC, a Chinese state-controlled company, and a Korean-led consortium linked to the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute. Britain’s Rolls-Royce is also involved as part of NuScale Power, a US-led group headed by Fluor, another US engineering giant.

This scale of spending clearly demonstrates the government’s commitment to the British nuclear industry and will help secure the UK’s low-carbon energy supply.

Searching for the best design, are they? So, this is basic research, not a production program. And how many decades before they find that best design? Pie in the sky bullshit.

the designs already exist it's just a matter of choosing one

but you would rather waste money on a power supply that only produces 25% of its installed capacity

If we hadn't shut down our nuclear program like we did we'd be decades ahead of our current position which is basically the stone age of nuclear power

The designs already exist. The checks in the mail. From the 1950's. Nuclear will be so cheap that we won't even have to meter it. And it is failsafe.

Sorry, the nuclear industries delivery on it's promises leave a lot to be desired. Every damned nuke has comes in over cost by several factors, and, usually, way behind schedule.