$36 Trillion for Clean Energy, IEA reports.

[Crick]

They'll hold up to the weather they were built to hold up to - same as oil or gas power plants.

 

[SSDD]

They'll hold up to the weather they were built to hold up to - same as oil or gas power plants.

Right.....which is why they fail at present every tine the wind picks up....did you see where brussels blacked out...renewable central...in the dark....

 

[Crick]

"The sudden blackout affected the Evere, Schaarbeek and Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe municipalities of the Brussels-Capital Region, Belgian gas and electricity network provider Sibelga has confirmed. It said the cause of the power failure was not immediately clear."

"The incident was “not a terrorist attack,” Belgian high-voltage transmission system operator Elia tweeted, but instead “a technical error in one of the high-voltage substations.” The substations have already been fixed and the power will be gradually restored, it said."

Media freaks out over Brussels blackout as part of city plunges into darkness (PHOTOS)

You stupid liar

 

[SSDD]

The sudden blackout affected the Evere, Schaarbeek and Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe municipalities of the Brussels-Capital Region, Belgian gas and electricity network provider Sibelga has confirmed. It said the cause of the power failure was not immediately clear.

The incident was “not a terrorist attack,” Belgian high-voltage transmission system operator Elia tweeted, but instead “a technical error in one of the high-voltage substations.” The substations have already been fixed and the power will be gradually restored, it said.
Media freaks out over Brussels blackout as part of city plunges into darkness (PHOTOS)

Stupid liar

Just goes to show how unstable renewables render the infrastructure.

 

[Crick]

Renwables had nothing to do with it you liar

 

[SSDD]

right...and they didn't result in the blackouts in australia either....

 

[Billy_Bob]

Renwables had nothing to do with it you liar

Totally clueless...
They have everything to do with instability of the grid and massive fluctuation swings..

 

[SSDD]

Renwables had nothing to do with it you liar

Totally clueless...
They have everything to do with instability of the grid and massive fluctuation swings..

If they believe their own bullshit regarding climate change and the claim that extreme weather is going to be the new norm...how stupid would you have to be to depend on such delicate and touchy infrastructure as wind and solar...they simply couldn't be engineered to stand up to extremes in weather...hell, a single misplaced hail storm with hail the size of softballs could wipe out entire sections of a grid....

 

[Crick]

Here is the homepage of that company whose equipment failure caused the blackout. See if you can find their wind and solar facilities

Homepage

 

[Old Rocks]

Has anybody mentioned the cost of Solar and Wind, lately. This OP is old, I bet the cost is much more, today.

Photographer: Kimimasa Mayama
Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels

Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels
Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1.
by
Tom Randall
April 6, 2016, 2:00 AM PDT


Wind and solar have grown seemingly unstoppable.

While two years of crashing prices for oil, natural gas, and coal triggered dramatic downsizing in those industries, renewables have been thriving. Clean energy investment broke new records in 2015 and is now seeing twice as much global funding as fossil fuels.

One reason is that renewable energy is becoming ever cheaper to produce. Recent solar and wind auctions in Mexico and Morocco ended with winning bids from companies that promised to produce electricity at the cheapest rate, from any source, anywhere in the world, said Michael Liebreich, chairman of the advisory board for Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).

"We're in a low-cost-of-oil environment for the foreseeable future," Liebreich said during his keynote address at the BNEF Summit in New York on Tuesday. "Did that stop renewable energy investment? Not at all."

Here's what's shaping power markets, in six charts from BNEF:

Renewables are beating fossil fuels 2 to 1

Looking very good for wind and solar

What does your bullshit chart even measure? There's no explanation of the vertical axis

LOL So, another denier that cannot read a simple chart. The y axis is billions of dollars invested, the x the year. Sheesh, that is one damned simple chart.

 

[Old Rocks]

They'll hold up to the weather they were built to hold up to - same as oil or gas power plants.

Right.....which is why they fail at present every tine the wind picks up....did you see where brussels blacked out...renewable central...in the dark....

Link

 

[Skull Pilot]

Most of this will be paid by investors running into solar energy and out of coal!!! Solar is now the second most installed source of energy in this country as of last year.

The big dogs at the top of the private energy sector are going to invest trillions!

big deal it's still a tiny fraction of our energy production

If you people want to get serious about emission free power then think nuclear because solar and wind will not be able to supply our needs

 

[Skull Pilot]

Has anybody mentioned the cost of Solar and Wind, lately. This OP is old, I bet the cost is much more, today.

Photographer: Kimimasa Mayama
Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels

Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels
Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1.
by
Tom Randall
April 6, 2016, 2:00 AM PDT


Wind and solar have grown seemingly unstoppable.

While two years of crashing prices for oil, natural gas, and coal triggered dramatic downsizing in those industries, renewables have been thriving. Clean energy investment broke new records in 2015 and is now seeing twice as much global funding as fossil fuels.

One reason is that renewable energy is becoming ever cheaper to produce. Recent solar and wind auctions in Mexico and Morocco ended with winning bids from companies that promised to produce electricity at the cheapest rate, from any source, anywhere in the world, said Michael Liebreich, chairman of the advisory board for Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF).

"We're in a low-cost-of-oil environment for the foreseeable future," Liebreich said during his keynote address at the BNEF Summit in New York on Tuesday. "Did that stop renewable energy investment? Not at all."

Here's what's shaping power markets, in six charts from BNEF:

Renewables are beating fossil fuels 2 to 1

Looking very good for wind and solar

What does your bullshit chart even measure? There's no explanation of the vertical axis

LOL So, another denier that cannot read a simple chart. The y axis is billions of dollars invested, the x the year. Sheesh, that is one damned simple chart.

and what's the return on that investment?

It is beyond stupid to invest so heavily into power generation that produces 25% or less of its rated capacity (wind) or that only works part of the time and at certain latitudes (solar) or that require huge tracts of land far away from populated areas of use (wind and solar)

It makes far more sense to invest in a power generation source that runs at 90% of its rated capacity 24/7/365 and can be used anywhere

 

[Old Rocks]

Nuclear? Far too expensive. And what are you going to do with the nuclear waste? Until that is solved, no reason to build new nukes.

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Nuclear? Far too expensive. And what are you going to do with the nuclear waste? Until that is solved, no reason to build new nukes.

only the current obsolete nuclear is expensive

We shut down our nuclear power program after a bad Hollywood movie that's how much sense we have

Even in the 60's the integral fast reactor was proven to be far superior to the reactors we have in service today not to mention the fact that they were self limiting and recycled 90% of their own fuel and a prototype molten salt reactor ran for years as well but the government scare campaign worked and now we are wasting money on wind which simply does not work as the failed wind industries of both the UK and Germany have proven

 

[Skull Pilot]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

 

[Skull Pilot]

If we didn't shove our heads up our asses by shutting down our nuclear program we would already have been leaps and bounda ahead of the rest of the world in the production of emission free power

Safer, Cheaper Nuclear Power

 

[Old Rocks]

Well now, here is where wind has not failed, and is being increased as we post. And those ultra-Liberal Texans are adding solar by the gigawatt as we post. LOL

The Great Texas Wind Power Boom

The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world's largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: "wind power California"...7.3 million responses...."wind power Texas"...5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.


Texas now produces more wind power alone than 25 U.S. states produce from all power sources combined!

Although you can read "6 Reasons Why Texas Leads the Nation in Wind Power" for yourself, one advantage for Texas is that it's the only U.S. state with its own power grid, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, which covers about 75% of the state.
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"Building wind farms is easy. Transmission lines are tough."

Yet, more large-scale transmission projects are critical for more wind because the best wind locations are generally remote from the high consuming cities. Take Texas, which spans a whopping 820 miles across and where the western half of the state is the wind haven: Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas are all in the eastern half.

Texas though wisely has a very diversified power portfolio that maintains critical reliability as more and more wind is added. A massive local supply of natural gas, for instance, can help backup Texas wind power when the wind isn't blowing. Gas peaker plants stand ready to be immediate backup power that can go from stop to full power in 10 minutes and shutdown when the wind starts blowing again.

Gas accounts for over 60% of Texas's power capacity, but has generated about 50% of the state's power. To also help flexibility, The Brattle Group advises Texas policymakers to establish "a regulatory framework that will allow the state to capture the full value of deploying grid-integrated electricity storage."

Amazon and Johnson & Johnson are two of a growing number of companies getting involved with wind power in Texas. Amazon wants to build a wind farm that will yield a million megawatt hours of electricity a year, enough to power 90,000 homes (here). For many, Texas is a model for the rest of the country. The U.S. Department of Energy’s 2015 report “Wind Vision” set a goal of getting 35% of all electricity in the country from wind in 2050, up from about 5% today.

 

[Old Rocks]

The cost per kw of the wind and solar electricity is far lower than that of nuclear. It is far quicker to install, and with grid scale storage, can be 24/7. And that is what matters to the consumer. Cost per kw.

what's the grid scale storage cost?

Don't forget to add that in to the price per KW
But you won't as your insistence of calculating the cost of wind by rated nominal capacity and not actual output has shown

According to Oncor, the largest utility in Texas, the break even point for grid scale storage is $350 per kw/hr. Right now, Tesla is building and selling grid scale batteries for $250 per kw/hr, and expects the cost to decline to $100 per kw/hr by 2025.

Because of present wasted generating capacity, Oncor states that adding significant grid storage would actually reduce the cost to the customer.