1956 Republicans

[rdean]

My "ideology" which apparently has blinded me is rather simple. If you live in America you can pursue any life you choose if you are willing to work hard and be dedicated. I used my Grandfather as a personal example of what is possible. I have no idea what my Liberal friend RD is ranting about.

Yes, let's review that, shall we?

This is what you said:

Allow me to explain it to you. You see, when you start at the bottom with no education and through HARD WORK, DETERMINATION and INGENUITY you make it to a position of leadership and become successful that is a GOOD THING. I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it. Now do you understand, or do I need to break it down for you even further?

And my response was:

And these days, the ONLY jobs available without an education are unskilled dead end minimum wage jobs. And the truly ignorant fucks want to abolish the minimum wage. And if that's the kind of life you want for you spawn, then you are a truly messed up individual. And I pity them.

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Because these days, hard work isn't enough. The migrant workers out there breaking their backs are working very hard and they aren't getting rich. And something Republicans don't understand is that getting an education is ALSO "hard work". And, of course, it pays off.

And this part is truly sick:

I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it.

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It should have been mentioned. Someone whose hearing was taken away at work was maimed.
He should have spoken up to put something in place to protect future generations. Losing your hearing? That's awful. A disgrace.

 

[GWV5903]

My "ideology" which apparently has blinded me is rather simple. If you live in America you can pursue any life you choose if you are willing to work hard and be dedicated. I used my Grandfather as a personal example of what is possible. I have no idea what my Liberal friend RD is ranting about.

Yes, let's review that, shall we?

This is what you said:

Allow me to explain it to you. You see, when you start at the bottom with no education and through HARD WORK, DETERMINATION and INGENUITY you make it to a position of leadership and become successful that is a GOOD THING. I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it. Now do you understand, or do I need to break it down for you even further?

And my response was:

And these days, the ONLY jobs available without an education are unskilled dead end minimum wage jobs. And the truly ignorant fucks want to abolish the minimum wage. And if that's the kind of life you want for you spawn, then you are a truly messed up individual. And I pity them.

----------------
Because these days, hard work isn't enough. The migrant workers out there breaking their backs are working very hard and they aren't getting rich. And something Republicans don't understand is that getting an education is ALSO "hard work". And, of course, it pays off.

And this part is truly sick:

I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it.

---------------
It should have been mentioned. Someone whose hearing was taken away at work was maimed.
He should have spoken up to put something in place to protect future generations. Losing your hearing? That's awful. A disgrace.

Deany you have no idea what hard work is about...

 

[Synthaholic]

What an awesome Party!

Your desperation is sad...

Times have changed in 59 years, but you would have to have a functioning brain to understand...

Apparently, so have conservative values.

 

[rdean]

My "ideology" which apparently has blinded me is rather simple. If you live in America you can pursue any life you choose if you are willing to work hard and be dedicated. I used my Grandfather as a personal example of what is possible. I have no idea what my Liberal friend RD is ranting about.

Yes, let's review that, shall we?

This is what you said:

Allow me to explain it to you. You see, when you start at the bottom with no education and through HARD WORK, DETERMINATION and INGENUITY you make it to a position of leadership and become successful that is a GOOD THING. I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it. Now do you understand, or do I need to break it down for you even further?

And my response was:

And these days, the ONLY jobs available without an education are unskilled dead end minimum wage jobs. And the truly ignorant fucks want to abolish the minimum wage. And if that's the kind of life you want for you spawn, then you are a truly messed up individual. And I pity them.

----------------
Because these days, hard work isn't enough. The migrant workers out there breaking their backs are working very hard and they aren't getting rich. And something Republicans don't understand is that getting an education is ALSO "hard work". And, of course, it pays off.

And this part is truly sick:

I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it.

---------------
It should have been mentioned. Someone whose hearing was taken away at work was maimed.
He should have spoken up to put something in place to protect future generations. Losing your hearing? That's awful. A disgrace.

Deany you have no idea what hard work is about...

Because I don't have to work at a job where I lose my hearing?

Oh these right wingers. What stooges they be.

 

[Harry Dresden]

dean are you going to prove im a racist?, or was that just more dean talk?...

 

[GWV5903]

My "ideology" which apparently has blinded me is rather simple. If you live in America you can pursue any life you choose if you are willing to work hard and be dedicated. I used my Grandfather as a personal example of what is possible. I have no idea what my Liberal friend RD is ranting about.

Yes, let's review that, shall we?

This is what you said:

Allow me to explain it to you. You see, when you start at the bottom with no education and through HARD WORK, DETERMINATION and INGENUITY you make it to a position of leadership and become successful that is a GOOD THING. I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it. Now do you understand, or do I need to break it down for you even further?

And my response was:

And these days, the ONLY jobs available without an education are unskilled dead end minimum wage jobs. And the truly ignorant fucks want to abolish the minimum wage. And if that's the kind of life you want for you spawn, then you are a truly messed up individual. And I pity them.

----------------
Because these days, hard work isn't enough. The migrant workers out there breaking their backs are working very hard and they aren't getting rich. And something Republicans don't understand is that getting an education is ALSO "hard work". And, of course, it pays off.

And this part is truly sick:

I only mentioned his hearing loss because it underscored the difficult environment he worked in and how he never complained about it.

---------------
It should have been mentioned. Someone whose hearing was taken away at work was maimed.
He should have spoken up to put something in place to protect future generations. Losing your hearing? That's awful. A disgrace.

Deany you have no idea what hard work is about...

Because I don't have to work at a job where I lose my hearing?

Oh these right wingers. What stooges they be.

Obviously you can't hear, so what does that have to do with hard work?

 

[Bfgrn]

The youth and civil rights movements of the 60's scared the conservatives of the time. Richard Nixon being forced to resign was the last straw that set off a concerted still ongoing effort by ultra-conservatives in corporate America to destroy all of the supporting understructure of modern progressivism. Unions, labor, Universities, a 'perceived' liberal slant to television, freedom and rights for women and minorities...

The fanatical attempt to impeach President Clinton was this cadre seeing their first opportunity to get revenge for Nixon and pushing it with red faced vigor. It was groundless and it went nowhere but they wanted any piece of flesh they could get to soothe their bitterness.

Faux News and conservative talk radio are direct propaganda outlets for this movement.

The two main problems they've run in to: they have only been able to brainwash maybe 27% of the population to follow them as zombies, and the demographics have changed over the last 40 years so that the voting base of the Repubilcan party is dissolving before their eyes. And it only gets worse with each passing day.

This movement is dying a slow natural death but it has wreaked terrible havoc on the poor and working Americans since the 80s. Once they lose in 2016 they will see for sure, the writing is on the wall. Selfish conservatism will be dead and they'll have to go back to some semblance of the moderate party they were in the 1950s.

I agree with all of your post until you get to the end...dogma never sees the writing on the wall. They will double down.

"Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

 

[Jroc]

What an awesome Party!

"Operation wetback" Eisenhower administration



Unions were once against open border immigration stealing american jobs and lowering American wages..

 

[Bfgrn]

Anger and bitterness? You must have missed the 1968 Democratic Party Convention. Were you asleep during the Carter Years? To this day, Carter reeks of bitterness. Toda, we have a Democrat Party that apologizes for American Exceptionalism...Past, Present, Future. Today, we have a Democrat Party that tells the Small Business Entrepreneur that he or she "didn't build that."

And Ronald Reagan raised self-employment tax 66 percent and handed out massive and unfair tax breaks to large corporations and their executives and stockholders, all at the expense of the small businesses that had built the American economy.

As a result, mom and pop stores began to close, because they simply couldn't afford to compete with the big box stores that were growing out of control.

 

[rdean]

Anger and bitterness? You must have missed the 1968 Democratic Party Convention. Were you asleep during the Carter Years? To this day, Carter reeks of bitterness. Toda, we have a Democrat Party that apologizes for American Exceptionalism...Past, Present, Future. Today, we have a Democrat Party that tells the Small Business Entrepreneur that he or she "didn't build that."

And Ronald Reagan raised self-employment tax 66 percent and handed out massive and unfair tax breaks to large corporations and their executives and stockholders, all at the expense of the small businesses that had built the American economy.

As a result, mom and pop stores began to close, because they simply couldn't afford to compete with the big box stores that were growing out of control.

It's the income inequality that has destroyed the Greek economy. Republicans see that as a "good" thing.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Anger and bitterness? You must have missed the 1968 Democratic Party Convention. Were you asleep during the Carter Years? To this day, Carter reeks of bitterness. Toda, we have a Democrat Party that apologizes for American Exceptionalism...Past, Present, Future. Today, we have a Democrat Party that tells the Small Business Entrepreneur that he or she "didn't build that."

And Ronald Reagan raised self-employment tax 66 percent and handed out massive and unfair tax breaks to large corporations and their executives and stockholders, all at the expense of the small businesses that had built the American economy.

As a result, mom and pop stores began to close, because they simply couldn't afford to compete with the big box stores that were growing out of control.

It's the income inequality that has destroyed the Greek economy. Republicans see that as a "good" thing.

insufficient tax income and euro-style tax and spend policies caused the greek collapse. Income inequality is universal. The solution is a strong middle class and economic opportunity. Arbitrary and artificial policies that seemingly close the income gap only serve to exacerbate income inequality in the long run.

 

[Mac1958]

What an awesome Party!

Yeah, this was back in the days before the narcissistic zealots took over the parties.

What a shame.

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[AVG-JOE]

The GOP was a really fantastic party once. I don't know what happened to them. The anger and bitterness of social conservatism is really the heart of the party now. It's a damn shame.

You do know what happened to them, Dude... you hit the nail square on the head - the social conservatives a.k.a. Moral Majority, a.k.a. Religious Right took the party by storm in the 70's, especially at the state level, and Gerrymandered themselves into power.

That power was used and abused by the likes of Dick Cheney and other Crony Capitalists along the way, but the votes came with unfulfilled promises of socially conservative policies and fear-mongering over what would happen if We, The Peeps were free to live other than Christian life-styles.

 

[Harry Dresden]

dean.....im waiting.....are you going to actually do what you say you do and prove what you said about me?...or is this just more bluster from a far left jerk?..

 

[Bfgrn]

Anger and bitterness? You must have missed the 1968 Democratic Party Convention. Were you asleep during the Carter Years? To this day, Carter reeks of bitterness. Toda, we have a Democrat Party that apologizes for American Exceptionalism...Past, Present, Future. Today, we have a Democrat Party that tells the Small Business Entrepreneur that he or she "didn't build that."

And Ronald Reagan raised self-employment tax 66 percent and handed out massive and unfair tax breaks to large corporations and their executives and stockholders, all at the expense of the small businesses that had built the American economy.

As a result, mom and pop stores began to close, because they simply couldn't afford to compete with the big box stores that were growing out of control.

It's the income inequality that has destroyed the Greek economy. Republicans see that as a "good" thing.

insufficient tax income and euro-style tax and spend policies caused the greek collapse. Income inequality is universal. The solution is a strong middle class and economic opportunity. Arbitrary and artificial policies that seemingly close the income gap only serve to exacerbate income inequality in the long run.

America once had a strong middle class...the liberal era policies starting with New Deal made America the 'city upon the hill'...

Until Reagan destroyed America...