Sunsettommy
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Socrates and Plato wrote about the erosion of land in Greece.
and.....?
Most of the country is NOT suitable for farming, therefore little of it are being damaged today.
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Socrates and Plato wrote about the erosion of land in Greece.
You mean that if you run all that manure runoff into fresh water streams it has no affect on the fish? On the purity of the water? Do you have a single digit IQ?what does this have to do with the environment changing??!!1864 and he noticed it in his lifetime??!!!!???
no he didn't
Yes he did. NYC and Chicago needed a lot of empty lots for manure and dead horses long before the civil war. London had numerous cholera and other water borne rpidemics due to the factory system causing overcrowding, the lack of low cost potable water and poor sewerage treatment.
When you deforest the land, you will change the climate in that land. So your statement is false.he could not have known anything about climate change in 1864
Damn, you are really intent on proving just how truly stupid you are. At the depths of the ice age, CO2 is at 180 ppm. And the height of the interglacials, it is at 280 ppm. Today, CO2 is at 400+ ppm. That is a major change in the composition of the atmosphere, and is being reflected in the rapid rise in temperatures.it would be like man trying to comprehend the beginning of the universe--he had no idea of man's ability
..even so, man is not changing the earth--the earth is too big
so?? you are so smartDamn, you are really intent on proving just how truly stupid you are. At the depths of the ice age, CO2 is at 180 ppm. And the height of the interglacials, it is at 280 ppm. Today, CO2 is at 400+ ppm. That is a major change in the composition of the atmosphere, and is being reflected in the rapid rise in temperatures.it would be like man trying to comprehend the beginning of the universe--he had no idea of man's ability
..even so, man is not changing the earth--the earth is too big
he didn't know crap about climate changeWhen you deforest the land, you will change the climate in that land. So your statement is false.he could not have known anything about climate change in 1864
My comment, quite obviously, was aimed putting the lie (or the ignorance) to your post #15 claim that little research was going on into agricultural issues in 1864.
You are unaware of the definition of the word "climate".Natural processes that affected agriculture had been under study for the prior 5,000 years.
His book doesn't cover climate stuff, that is what the article LYINGLY claimed.
Ever heard of "steppe climate" or "rainforest climate" or "desert climate"? Of course not, because you're a flunkie.You are unaware of the definition of the word "climate".Natural processes that affected agriculture had been under study for the prior 5,000 years.
His book doesn't cover climate stuff, that is what the article LYINGLY claimed.
You didn't read post 10 either where I dug up the book from the internet.
From Wikipedia,
"Climate is the statistics of weather over long periods of time.[1][2] It is measured by assessing the patterns of variation in temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological variables in a given region over long periods of time. Climate differs from weather, in that weather only describes the short-term conditions of these variables in a given region."
Like I said several times now, his book is about Stewardship of the ............................, from post 10:
"The book challenges the myth of the inexhaustibility of the earth and the belief that human impact on the environment is negligible by drawing similarities to the ancient civilization of the Mediterranean.[5] Marsh argued that ancient Mediterranean civilizations collapsed through environmental degradation. Deforestation led to eroded soils that led to decreased soil productivity. Additionally, the same trends could be found occurring in the United States. The book was one of the most influential books of its time, next to Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species, inspiring conservation and reform in the USA since it forebode what happened to an ancient civilisation when it depleted and exhausted its natural resources.[6] The book was instrumental in the creation of Adirondack Park in New York and the United States National Forest. Gifford Pinchot, first Chief of the United States Forest Service, called it "epoch making" and Stewart Udall wrote that it was "the beginning of land wisdom in this country."
No mention of Climate....................................
Ever heard of "steppe climate" or "rainforest climate" or "desert climate"? Of course not, because you're a flunkie.You are unaware of the definition of the word "climate".Natural processes that affected agriculture had been under study for the prior 5,000 years.
His book doesn't cover climate stuff, that is what the article LYINGLY claimed.
You didn't read post 10 either where I dug up the book from the internet.
From Wikipedia,
"Climate is the statistics of weather over long periods of time.[1][2] It is measured by assessing the patterns of variation in temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological variables in a given region over long periods of time. Climate differs from weather, in that weather only describes the short-term conditions of these variables in a given region."
Like I said several times now, his book is about Stewardship of the ............................, from post 10:
"The book challenges the myth of the inexhaustibility of the earth and the belief that human impact on the environment is negligible by drawing similarities to the ancient civilization of the Mediterranean.[5] Marsh argued that ancient Mediterranean civilizations collapsed through environmental degradation. Deforestation led to eroded soils that led to decreased soil productivity. Additionally, the same trends could be found occurring in the United States. The book was one of the most influential books of its time, next to Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species, inspiring conservation and reform in the USA since it forebode what happened to an ancient civilisation when it depleted and exhausted its natural resources.[6] The book was instrumental in the creation of Adirondack Park in New York and the United States National Forest. Gifford Pinchot, first Chief of the United States Forest Service, called it "epoch making" and Stewart Udall wrote that it was "the beginning of land wisdom in this country."
No mention of Climate....................................
And you capitalize like Trump, proving to be an English flunkie as well.The Climate definition make clear that it is not about environmental degradation, but about Meteorology processes.
You destroy the vegetation in a large area, you change the climate in that area. We saw that in the Mid-East and in southern Europe. He did not need to specify climate as one of the things affected by the actions of man, it is self evident.
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