167 Consecutive Days Below Freezing

[Old Rocks]

U.S. Drought Monitor

The west has had a series of droughts, and our forests and crops are paying the price.

 

[MaryL]

There isn't any global warming? Global warming is a lie? I digress...The Winter Olympics committee has to whittle down year by year, all the countries that actualy have winters cold enough to allow SNOW? We have less countries that can support winter Olympics every year. That is also a sad fact. We killed winter...

 

[MaryL]

Waterskiing in Florida is going to be the next winter sport. Or perhaps, say curling on an ice arena in Dubai.

 

[Billy_Bob]

But otherwise the rest US of are experiencing warmer dryer conditions. Here in Colorado, the profits of Vail or Aspen and the entire Colorado ski industry is down because of the lower snow pack per annum, that says it all. Global warming is a fraud? Hell,Colorado or in the western part of the US sees less precipitation, higher average temperatures, and less SNOW. That is a real factor. We have far more fire events overall, less snow or blizzard warnings In Colorado. In the 60 years of my life, this is alarming.

This is a known shift in circulations driven by ocean surface temperatures.. not unusual or uncommon..

 

[Billy_Bob]

U.S. Drought Monitor

The west has had a series of droughts, and our forests and crops are paying the price.

Moron...

La Niña Pattern. nothin to see here or worry about... Natural Variation..

 

[westwall]

Please post the evidence (conservative side) of the calibration record that the Medieval Warm Period was warmer than current global temperature.

These are SCIENTIFIC papers. They have no political bias. They just present facts. There are loads more but this will get you started.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-0459.2010.00399.x

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017PA003237

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683615596827

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016GL071849

http://epic.awi.de/17919/1/Ste2007b.pdf

 

[skookerasbil]

U.S. Drought Monitor

The west has had a series of droughts, and our forests and crops are paying the price.

Once again the bogus play of presenting a current drought maps... the operative term being "current". Why is this a bogus method of conveying information? Because the map isn't compared to other maps.... historical maps.

Once again the progressives implication gets train wrecked when having to respond to the question, "As compared to what?"

Historical maps of US drought display very clearly that there are periods of severe drought followed by periods of very little if any drought...... dating back to the late 19th century. I will happily post the historical drought map by request.....it effectively decimates the fake implications by the climate crusaders that drought is linked to climate change = a bunch of hooey.

 

[skookerasbil]

There isn't any global warming? Global warming is a lie? I digress...The Winter Olympics committee has to whittle down year by year, all the countries that actualy have winters cold enough to allow SNOW? We have less countries that can support winter Olympics every year. That is also a sad fact. We killed winter...

Hey sweetie I hate to break it to you but the only thing that matters is the public perception.... doesn't matter what the scientists are saying. When 80% of 320 million people are freezing their nuts sacks off 8 months out of the year, nothing heroic is going to be being done about climate change. And clearly we see that dynamic being played out right now.... the public isn't giving a rat's ass about climate change. And the evidence to support that is staggering.

The goofball climate Crusaders ran on the hoax of the entire world warming.... and they got it wrong. People who go to the polls and vote have figured out that the climate modeling is a load of s***....... when you have to leave your house with ball warmers every morning, the science gets laughed at. This is something members of the religion fail to comprehend.... which is excellent news for the rest of us.

 

[petro]

There isn't any global warming? Global warming is a lie? I digress...The Winter Olympics committee has to whittle down year by year, all the countries that actualy have winters cold enough to allow SNOW? We have less countries that can support winter Olympics every year. That is also a sad fact. We killed winter...

Hey sweetie I hate to break it to you but the only thing that matters is the public perception.... doesn't matter what the scientists are saying. When 80% of 320 million people are freezing their nuts sacks off 8 months out of the year, nothing heroic is going to be being done about climate change. And clearly we see that dynamic being played out right now.... the public isn't giving a rat's ass about climate change. And the evidence to support that is staggering.

The goofball climate Crusaders ran on the hoax of the entire world warming.... and they got it wrong. People who go to the polls and vote have figured out that the climate modeling is a load of s***....... when you have to leave your house with ball warmers every morning, the science gets laughed at. This is something members of the religion fail to comprehend.... which is excellent news for the rest of us.

Mid April blizzard in MN. Woke up to a new foot of snow. Usually in the 50's by now.
Perception is key. I could give a rats ass about so-called global warming where I live.

 

[Old Rocks]

Please post the evidence (conservative side) of the calibration record that the Medieval Warm Period was warmer than current global temperature.

These are SCIENTIFIC papers. They have no political bias. They just present facts. There are loads more but this will get you started.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-0459.2010.00399.x

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017PA003237

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683615596827

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016GL071849

http://epic.awi.de/17919/1/Ste2007b.pdf

A NEW RECONSTRUCTION OF TEMPERATURE VARIABILITY IN THE EXTRA‐TROPICAL NORTHERN HEMISPHERE DURING THE LAST TWO MILLENNIA
FREDRIK CHARPENTIER LJUNGQVIST


ABSTRACT.
A new temperature reconstruction with decadal resolution, covering the last two millennia, is presented for the extratropical Northern Hemisphere (90–30°N), utilizing many palaeo‐temperature proxy records never previously included in any large‐scale temperature reconstruction. The amplitude of the reconstructed temperature variability on centennial time‐scales exceeds 0.6°C. This reconstruction is the first to show a distinct Roman Warm Period c. ad 1–300, reaching up to the 1961–1990 mean temperature level, followed by the Dark Age Cold Period c. ad 300–800. The Medieval Warm Period is seen c. ad 800–1300 and the Little Ice Age is clearly visible c. ad 1300–1900, followed by a rapid temperature increase in the twentieth century. The highest average temperatures in the reconstruction are encountered in the mid to late tenth century and the lowest in the late seventeenth century. Decadal mean temperatures seem to have reached or exceeded the 1961–1990 mean temperature level during substantial parts of the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period. The temperature of the last two decades, however, is possibly higher than during any previous time in the past two millennia, although this is only seen in the instrumental temperature data and not in the multi‐proxy reconstruction itself. Our temperature reconstruction agrees well with the reconstructions by Moberg et al. (2005) and Mann et al. (2008) with regard to the amplitude of the variability as well as the timing of warm and cold periods, except for the period c. ad 300–800, despite significant differences in both data coverage and methodology.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-0459.2010.00399.x

Mr. Westwall continues to lie about what the links he posts state. This is the first link he posted, and it clearly states that the last two decades look as if they were the warmest in the last two millenia.

 

[Old Rocks]

Warming and Cooling: The Medieval Climate Anomaly in Africa and Arabia
Sebastian Lüning

Mariusz Gałka

Fritz Vahrenholt


Abstract
The Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA) is a well‐recognized climate perturbation in many parts of the world, with a core period of 1000–1200 Common Era. Here we present a palaeotemperature synthesis for the MCA in Africa and Arabia, based on 44 published localities. The data sets have been thoroughly correlated and the MCA trends palaeoclimatologically mapped. The vast majority of available Afro‐Arabian onshore sites suggest a warm MCA, with the exception of the southern Levant where the MCA appears to have been cold. MCA cooling has also been documented in many segments of the circum‐Africa‐Arabian upwelling systems, as a result of changes in the wind systems which were leading to an intensification of cold water upwelling. Offshore cores from outside upwelling systems mostly show warm MCA conditions. The most likely key drivers of the observed medieval climate change are solar forcing and ocean cycles. Conspicuous cold spikes during the earliest and latest MCA may help to discriminate between solar (Oort Minimum) and ocean cycle (Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, AMO) influence. Compared to its large share of nearly one quarter of the world's landmass, data from Africa and Arabia are significantly underrepresented in global temperature reconstructions of the past 2,000 years. Onshore data are still absent for most regions in Africa and Arabia, except for regional data clusters in Morocco, South Africa, the East African Rift, and the Levant coast. In order to reconstruct land palaeotemperatures more robustly over Africa and Arabia, a systematic research program is needed.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017PA003237

So there were warm and cold areas in Africa and the Near East. But no quantification on how cold or how warm, and no comparison to present temperatures. Once again, Mr. Westwall misrepresents what is in a scientific article. One has to wonder if he even bothered to read the abstract.

 

[skookerasbil]

Warming and Cooling: The Medieval Climate Anomaly in Africa and Arabia
Sebastian Lüning

Mariusz Gałka

Fritz Vahrenholt


Abstract
The Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA) is a well‐recognized climate perturbation in many parts of the world, with a core period of 1000–1200 Common Era. Here we present a palaeotemperature synthesis for the MCA in Africa and Arabia, based on 44 published localities. The data sets have been thoroughly correlated and the MCA trends palaeoclimatologically mapped. The vast majority of available Afro‐Arabian onshore sites suggest a warm MCA, with the exception of the southern Levant where the MCA appears to have been cold. MCA cooling has also been documented in many segments of the circum‐Africa‐Arabian upwelling systems, as a result of changes in the wind systems which were leading to an intensification of cold water upwelling. Offshore cores from outside upwelling systems mostly show warm MCA conditions. The most likely key drivers of the observed medieval climate change are solar forcing and ocean cycles. Conspicuous cold spikes during the earliest and latest MCA may help to discriminate between solar (Oort Minimum) and ocean cycle (Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, AMO) influence. Compared to its large share of nearly one quarter of the world's landmass, data from Africa and Arabia are significantly underrepresented in global temperature reconstructions of the past 2,000 years. Onshore data are still absent for most regions in Africa and Arabia, except for regional data clusters in Morocco, South Africa, the East African Rift, and the Levant coast. In order to reconstruct land palaeotemperatures more robustly over Africa and Arabia, a systematic research program is needed.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017PA003237

So there were warm and cold areas in Africa and the Near East. But no quantification on how cold or how warm, and no comparison to present temperatures. Once again, Mr. Westwall misrepresents what is in a scientific article. One has to wonder if he even bothered to read the abstract.

Well no one is reading the abstract because it's absurd.... actually irrelevant would be a better term. Cmon' now....this is is just the new effort to engineer climate change to better match the NEW established narrative. Duh...... hardcore members of the religion will buy this stuff Hook Line & Stinker..... but how many people are going to read this abstract? 473? Maybe?

Presentation of fringe science stuff is impressive to internet OCD guys wowed by science stuff.....but is profoundly boring to large swaths of the public.

MWP has trainwrecked the established narrative of the climate crusaders over the last several years..... only a climate k00k would think some trivial MWP data about Africa and Arabia is going to change that.

 

[westwall]

Please post the evidence (conservative side) of the calibration record that the Medieval Warm Period was warmer than current global temperature.

These are SCIENTIFIC papers. They have no political bias. They just present facts. There are loads more but this will get you started.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-0459.2010.00399.x

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/2017PA003237

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683615596827

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016GL071849

http://epic.awi.de/17919/1/Ste2007b.pdf

A NEW RECONSTRUCTION OF TEMPERATURE VARIABILITY IN THE EXTRA‐TROPICAL NORTHERN HEMISPHERE DURING THE LAST TWO MILLENNIA
FREDRIK CHARPENTIER LJUNGQVIST


ABSTRACT.
A new temperature reconstruction with decadal resolution, covering the last two millennia, is presented for the extratropical Northern Hemisphere (90–30°N), utilizing many palaeo‐temperature proxy records never previously included in any large‐scale temperature reconstruction. The amplitude of the reconstructed temperature variability on centennial time‐scales exceeds 0.6°C. This reconstruction is the first to show a distinct Roman Warm Period c. ad 1–300, reaching up to the 1961–1990 mean temperature level, followed by the Dark Age Cold Period c. ad 300–800. The Medieval Warm Period is seen c. ad 800–1300 and the Little Ice Age is clearly visible c. ad 1300–1900, followed by a rapid temperature increase in the twentieth century. The highest average temperatures in the reconstruction are encountered in the mid to late tenth century and the lowest in the late seventeenth century. Decadal mean temperatures seem to have reached or exceeded the 1961–1990 mean temperature level during substantial parts of the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period. The temperature of the last two decades, however, is possibly higher than during any previous time in the past two millennia, although this is only seen in the instrumental temperature data and not in the multi‐proxy reconstruction itself. Our temperature reconstruction agrees well with the reconstructions by Moberg et al. (2005) and Mann et al. (2008) with regard to the amplitude of the variability as well as the timing of warm and cold periods, except for the period c. ad 300–800, despite significant differences in both data coverage and methodology.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-0459.2010.00399.x

Mr. Westwall continues to lie about what the links he posts state. This is the first link he posted, and it clearly states that the last two decades look as if they were the warmest in the last two millenia.

Possibly, does not mean IS. And you ignore the sentence "is only seen in the instrumental temperature data" which we KNOW has been falsified. So, no...it is you who continues to lie.

 

[Old Rocks]

Glacial fluctuations since the ‘Medieval Warm Period’ at Rothera Point (western Antarctic Peninsula)


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Mauro GuglielminPeter Convey, Francesco Malfasi, ...
First Published August 5, 2015 Research Article
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Abstract
At a global scale, there is no evidence for synchronous multi-decadal warm (‘Medieval Warm Period’, MWP) or cold (‘Little Ice Age’, LIA) periods in the late Holocene. On the other hand, there is good correspondence globally in the timing of MWP or LIA and phases of glacier retreat and advance, respectively, with local exceptions mainly explained by the precipitation regime. Antarctica exhibits contrasting patterns, both regarding the existence of these two historical climatic periods and the glacial responses to climatic forcing. Here, we present evidence for glacial retreat corresponding to the MWP and a subsequent LIA advance at Rothera Point (67°34′S; 68°07′W) in Marguerite Bay, western Antarctic Peninsula. Deglaciation started at ca. 961–800 cal. yr BP or before, reaching a position similar to or even more withdrawn than the current state, with the subsequent period of glacial advance commencing between 671 and 558 cal. yr BP and continuing at least until 490–317 cal. yr BP. Based on new radiocarbon dates, during the MWP, the rate of glacier retreat was 1.6 m yr−1, which is comparable with recently observed rates (~0.6 m yr−1 between 1993 and 2011 and 1.4 m yr−1 between 2005 and 2011). Moreover, despite the recent air warming rate being higher, the glacial retreat rate during the MWP was similar to the present, suggesting that increased snow accumulation in recent decades may have counterbalanced the higher warming rate.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683615596827

Present warming rate higher than that of the MWP. LOL Once again, that was not what Mr. Westwall implied to be what the article said.

 

[Old Rocks]

Collapse of the North American ice saddle 14,500 years ago caused widespread cooling and reduced ocean overturning circulation
Ruza F. Ivanovic

Lauren J. Gregoire

Andrew D. Wickert

Paul J. Valdes

Andrea Burke
First published: 21 December 2016

https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GL071849

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Collapse of ice sheets can cause significant sea level rise and widespread climate change. We examine the climatic response to meltwater generated by the collapse of the Cordilleran‐Laurentide ice saddle (North America) ~14.5 thousand years ago (ka) using a high‐resolution drainage model coupled to an ocean‐atmosphere‐vegetation general circulation model. Equivalent to 7.26 m global mean sea level rise in 340 years, the meltwater caused a 6 sverdrup weakening of Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and widespread Northern Hemisphere cooling of 1–5°C. The greatest cooling is in the Atlantic sector high latitudes during Boreal winter (by 5–10°C), but there is also strong summer warming of 1–3°C over eastern North America. Following recent suggestions that the saddle collapse was triggered by the Bølling warming event at ~14.7–14.5 ka, we conclude that this robust submillennial mechanism may have initiated the end of the warming and/or the Older Dryas cooling through a forced AMOC weakening.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016GL071849

A warming caused a cooling. Imagine that. However, what does this have to do with the MWP? Just needed something to fill in a space?

 

[Old Rocks]

http://epic.awi.de/17919/1/Ste2007b.pdf

Now Mr. Westwall, that is simply a list of articles and has little to do with the MWP.

 

[miketx]

Headline - Empty space has remained at -453 degrees Fahrenheit for billions of years, thus disproving global warming.

Said one particular unknowing boob from south of the Mason Dixon line "If space is so cold the Earth can't be that warm can it? Use yer heads people."

I am reminded of the old saying that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

 

[MaryL]

U.S. Drought Monitor

The west has had a series of droughts, and our forests and crops are paying the price.

Moron...

La Niña Pattern. nothin to see here or worry about... Natural Variation..

It sounds like somebody is in denial. I understand that the Sahara used to be a verdant rain forest, things change. That took thousands of years. Now? it's a matter of decades...i am seeing it, and heartily agree it's human caused. 7 billion people are having effects in more ways than just weather, too. Let's just ignore the facts and whistle past the graveyard.

 

[westwall]

U.S. Drought Monitor

The west has had a series of droughts, and our forests and crops are paying the price.

Moron...

La Niña Pattern. nothin to see here or worry about... Natural Variation..

It sounds like somebody is in denial. I understand that the Sahara used to be a verdant rain forest, things change. That took thousands of years. Now? it's a matter of decades...i am seeing it, and heartily agree it's human caused. 7 billion people are having effects in more ways than just weather, too. Let's just ignore the facts and whistle past the graveyard.

You can "believe" anything you wish. That is the way religion works. However, in the realm of science it doesn't matter what you believe, but you can observe. And the reality is that to date there is no observed scientific data that supports the theory of AGW. None. There's a whole lot of computer derived fiction, but nothing that is actually observed.

 

[RWNJ]

Brad, goes silly in the thread avoiding the posted article completely to push his silly spin.

From Real Climate Science

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LINK

Gotta love this global warming. Oh, wait.