10 Illegal Aliens Found With Tuberculosis!

[pismoe]

and many of those idiots are illegals in immigrant gateway cities like new yawk , los angeles , etc . Many illegal immigrants are bringing third world diseases that were once at least controlled in the USA back into the USA Coyote !!

 

[DriftingSand]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

A little proof to back up that poop would be nice, but hearsay is just more incriminating to the lazy...

Ya...I don't recall anyone stating that.

All immigrants have the potential to bring diseases. As do travelers traveling abroad and returning. We just have to deal with it and improve systems for detecting and treating illness before it reaches the general population.

Nevertheless, 10 illegals (recent illegals) were found with TB. I like the idea that "we just have to deal with it and improve systems." One of those "systems" is securing the southern border and keeping illegals from bringing diseases with them.

 

[Coyote]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB

(CNSNews.com) - From January through September, 10 of the unaccompanied minors detained while attempting to illegally enter the United States across the Mexican border were diagnosed with active tuberculosis (TB), according to the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).

The children were ultimately allowed to stay in the United States.

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB CNS News

And they were allowed to stay ... no less. I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Hate to break it to you but tuberculosis is ALREADY (and has long been) in this country.

It's been contained in this country...so we should let people in that have it...yeah..that makes perfect sense...

Polio is making a comeback, too..probably just a coincidence, right?

No it hasn't.

For years now, tb has had a resergence, particularly drug resistant tb.

If we are seeing a resergence of polio - then the reason is idiots are choosing not to vaccinate. Polio is entirely preventable but if enough of the population isn't vaccinated then you will see it come back.

But don't you find it interesting that illegals have been sneaking into the USA "for years now?" Logic dictates that there is a correlation.

Centuries. So?

Logical fallacy: Correlation isn't always causation.

Do immigrants bring in diseases? Sure. But most of those diseases are already here. Not every disease outbreak is linked to immigration.

 

[DriftingSand]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).
10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB CNS News

And they were allowed to stay ... no less. I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Hate to break it to you but tuberculosis is ALREADY (and has long been) in this country.

It's been contained in this country...so we should let people in that have it...yeah..that makes perfect sense...

Polio is making a comeback, too..probably just a coincidence, right?

No it hasn't.

For years now, tb has had a resergence, particularly drug resistant tb.

If we are seeing a resergence of polio - then the reason is idiots are choosing not to vaccinate. Polio is entirely preventable but if enough of the population isn't vaccinated then you will see it come back.

But don't you find it interesting that illegals have been sneaking into the USA "for years now?" Logic dictates that there is a correlation.

Centuries. So?

Logical fallacy: Correlation isn't always causation.

Do immigrants bring in diseases? Sure. But most of those diseases are already here. Not every disease outbreak is linked to immigration.

But correlation should send up red flags. Couple correlation with factual evidence and we need not look anywhere else but right in front of us.

1) Disease is on the rise
2) Illegal immigration is on the rise
3) Recent illegals are found with noxious diseases.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

 

[pismoe]

so --- bringing in a little MORE disease is ok then ehhh Coyote? That's the same argument when illegals drive drunk or rape and kill . In those cases you can expect the libs to jump up and say , hey , Americans drive drunk and rape and kill so whats the difference if we import more drunk drivers , rapists and killers ??

 

[Vandalshandle]

Well, if one wants to use the argument that illegal aliens are the source of our illness and diseases, I can only speculate that illegal aliens take one hell of a lot of cruises, because I have been on 6 of them, and caught something every damned time I went on one. I think that I have also caught colds and flu about every 4th time I flew commercially. Who would have thought that they could afford these luxuries?

 

[DriftingSand]

so --- bringing in a little MORE disease is ok then ehhh Coyote? That's the same argument when illegals drive drunk or rape and kill . In those cases you can expect the libs to jump up and say , hey , Americans drive drunk and rape and kill so whats the difference if we import more drunk drivers , rapists and killers ??

Hey ... will you stop making sense already? Folks don't like that kinda junk around here. LOL

 

[DriftingSand]

Well, if one wants to use the argument that illegal aliens are the source of our illness and diseases, I can only speculate that illegal aliens take one hell of a lot of cruises, because I have been on 6 of them, and caught something every damned time I went on one. I think that I have also caught colds and flu about every 4th time I flew commercially. Who would have thought that they could afford these luxuries?

Many of the hired helpers on cruise ships don't speak a lick of English. I'd suggest avoiding cruises from now on.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Hate to break it to you but tuberculosis is ALREADY (and has long been) in this country.

It's been contained in this country...so we should let people in that have it...yeah..that makes perfect sense...

Polio is making a comeback, too..probably just a coincidence, right?

No it hasn't.

For years now, tb has had a resergence, particularly drug resistant tb.

If we are seeing a resergence of polio - then the reason is idiots are choosing not to vaccinate. Polio is entirely preventable but if enough of the population isn't vaccinated then you will see it come back.

But don't you find it interesting that illegals have been sneaking into the USA "for years now?" Logic dictates that there is a correlation.

Centuries. So?

Logical fallacy: Correlation isn't always causation.

Do immigrants bring in diseases? Sure. But most of those diseases are already here. Not every disease outbreak is linked to immigration.

But correlation should send up red flags. Couple correlation with factual evidence and we need not look anywhere else but right in front of us.

1) Disease is on the rise
2) Illegal immigration is on the rise
3) Recent illegals are found with noxious diseases.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

1. Disease is on the rise
2. The republicans are on the verge of taking over the senate
3. Republicans are not only carriers of disease, but it is a proven fact that 100% of republicans die.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

 

[pismoe]

[chuckle] --- good reply 'driftingsand' !!

 

[DriftingSand]

It's been contained in this country...so we should let people in that have it...yeah..that makes perfect sense...

Polio is making a comeback, too..probably just a coincidence, right?

No it hasn't.

For years now, tb has had a resergence, particularly drug resistant tb.

If we are seeing a resergence of polio - then the reason is idiots are choosing not to vaccinate. Polio is entirely preventable but if enough of the population isn't vaccinated then you will see it come back.

But don't you find it interesting that illegals have been sneaking into the USA "for years now?" Logic dictates that there is a correlation.

Centuries. So?

Logical fallacy: Correlation isn't always causation.

Do immigrants bring in diseases? Sure. But most of those diseases are already here. Not every disease outbreak is linked to immigration.

But correlation should send up red flags. Couple correlation with factual evidence and we need not look anywhere else but right in front of us.

1) Disease is on the rise
2) Illegal immigration is on the rise
3) Recent illegals are found with noxious diseases.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

1. Disease is on the rise
2. The republicans are on the verge of taking over the senate
3. Republicans are not only carriers of disease, but it is a proven fact that 100% of republicans die.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

Uh ohhhh ... your lack of logic and intelligence are showing again. You may want to cover that stuff up.

 

[Vandalshandle]

No it hasn't.

For years now, tb has had a resergence, particularly drug resistant tb.

If we are seeing a resergence of polio - then the reason is idiots are choosing not to vaccinate. Polio is entirely preventable but if enough of the population isn't vaccinated then you will see it come back.

But don't you find it interesting that illegals have been sneaking into the USA "for years now?" Logic dictates that there is a correlation.

Centuries. So?

Logical fallacy: Correlation isn't always causation.

Do immigrants bring in diseases? Sure. But most of those diseases are already here. Not every disease outbreak is linked to immigration.

But correlation should send up red flags. Couple correlation with factual evidence and we need not look anywhere else but right in front of us.

1) Disease is on the rise
2) Illegal immigration is on the rise
3) Recent illegals are found with noxious diseases.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

1. Disease is on the rise
2. The republicans are on the verge of taking over the senate
3. Republicans are not only carriers of disease, but it is a proven fact that 100% of republicans die.

Should not these simple facts point all of us in the right direction?

Uh ohhhh ... your lack of logic and intelligence are showing again. You may want to cover that stuff up.

But, Drifter, how could that be? Everything I know, I learned from you!

 

[Care4all]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

A little proof to back up that poop would be nice, but hearsay is just more incriminating to the lazy...

Ya...I don't recall anyone stating that.

All immigrants have the potential to bring diseases. As do travelers traveling abroad and returning. We just have to deal with it and improve systems for detecting and treating illness before it reaches the general population.

Nevertheless, 10 illegals (recent illegals) were found with TB. I like the idea that "we just have to deal with it and improve systems." One of those "systems" is securing the southern border and keeping illegals from bringing diseases with them.

first, just a warning, you should never believe anything that you read from CNS....not once in the years of being linked to their articles, have they EVER TOLD THE FULL TRUTH....not a once.... they will always take some facts and then twist them in to something else not even close to reality.

That being said, we ALL should be pleased that our gvt DID catch the TB cases in their Medical Check ups and screening of refugees, and DID treat the disease.

We were hearing all kinds of outright LIES from media like CNS that the refugees were not being screened at all for diseases... and many posts on this board spreading that lie....

so now CNS finds out the children refugees WERE SCREENED for infectious diseases, and instead of them admitting to their initial LIE about children being released in to our nation with infectious diseases and not being screened or medically treated....they now try to double down on their lie and scare you in some other manner....

 

[DriftingSand]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

A little proof to back up that poop would be nice, but hearsay is just more incriminating to the lazy...

Ya...I don't recall anyone stating that.

All immigrants have the potential to bring diseases. As do travelers traveling abroad and returning. We just have to deal with it and improve systems for detecting and treating illness before it reaches the general population.

Nevertheless, 10 illegals (recent illegals) were found with TB. I like the idea that "we just have to deal with it and improve systems." One of those "systems" is securing the southern border and keeping illegals from bringing diseases with them.

first, just a warning, you should never believe anything that you read from CNS....not once in the years of being linked to their articles, have they EVER TOLD THE FULL TRUTH....not a once.... they will always take some facts and then twist them in to something else not even close to reality.

That being said, we ALL should be pleased that our gvt DID catch the TB cases in their Medical Check ups and screening of refugees, and DID treat the disease.

We were hearing all kinds of outright LIES from media like CNS that the refugees were not being screened at all for diseases... and many posts on this board spreading that lie....

so now CNS finds out the children refugees WERE SCREENED for infectious diseases, and instead of them admitting to their initial LIE about children being released in to our nation with infectious diseases and not being screened or medically treated....they now try to double down on their lie and scare you in some other manner....

First, I suppose CNS is as believable as CNN, CBS, and MSNBC. Secondly, how many cases of illegals carrying diseases missed? Obviously, not all illegals are caught. So for every 10 illegals captured and found with a terrible disease we can probably bet that 100 slip in through the cracks undetected.

 

[Windship]

I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Sounds like you've finally realized that conservatardism is a disease. Good on you.

Now if only you'd stop hating chyldryn for the "crime" of being sick, you'd make an almost decent humyn byyng.

Yeah! And that goes for ebola as well!

 

[DriftingSand]

I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Sounds like you've finally realized that conservatardism is a disease. Good on you.

Now if only you'd stop hating chyldryn for the "crime" of being sick, you'd make an almost decent humyn byyng.

Yeah! And that goes for ebola as well!

Exactly! What's wrong with American anyway. We should let every horrible illness into this land and learn to like it. It's the Liberal way.

 

[Windship]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB

(CNSNews.com) - From January through September, 10 of the unaccompanied minors detained while attempting to illegally enter the United States across the Mexican border were diagnosed with active tuberculosis (TB), according to the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).

The children were ultimately allowed to stay in the United States.

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB CNS News

And they were allowed to stay ... no less. I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Hate to break it to you but tuberculosis is ALREADY (and has long been) in this country.

Coyote,
you know nothing about anything.
lol
TB was wiped out completely here decades ago. It is well known that illegal aliens are bringing back the disease. Jeez! Senior mod? Really?? I guess you dont achieve that higherarchy from knowlage, do ya?

 

[Windship]

So coyote,
you hold opposite views than do? Interesting.

 

[Care4all]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB

(CNSNews.com) - From January through September, 10 of the unaccompanied minors detained while attempting to illegally enter the United States across the Mexican border were diagnosed with active tuberculosis (TB), according to the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).

The children were ultimately allowed to stay in the United States.

10 Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Minors Diagnosed With TB CNS News

And they were allowed to stay ... no less. I actually hope American Libs start catching the diseases that "don't exist." Maybe they'll turn Conservative as a result.

Hate to break it to you but tuberculosis is ALREADY (and has long been) in this country.

Coyote,
you know nothing about anything.
lol
TB was wiped out completely here decades ago. It is well known that illegal aliens are bringing back the disease. Jeez! Senior mod? Really?? I guess you dont achieve that higherarchy from knowlage, do ya?

nope....not coyote, you are the one that's clueless with your sidebar comments!

 

[Windship]

But I thought it was a "fact" that illegals DON'T bring diseases with them (if we're to believe most of the LibNuts on this board).

A little proof to back up that poop would be nice, but hearsay is just more incriminating to the lazy...

Ya...I don't recall anyone stating that.

All immigrants have the potential to bring diseases. As do travelers traveling abroad and returning. We just have to deal with it and improve systems for detecting and treating illness before it reaches the general population.

Damn your unimformed coyote!
I remember hearing on the news a few years back just that? It was all over the news for weeks...but you never saw it, right? Well I did.
Rense.com
TB And MDR-TB Coming
To America - Illegal Immigrants
Spreading Infection
By James R. Edwards
The National Review - Commentary
National Review Online
6-4-1

Franklin County, Ohio, commissioners recently approved nearly $1 million to treat a growing public-health threat in the county: tuberculosis. The almost 70-percent funding increase from the previous year was sparked by the county health clinic's dramatic rise in TB cases. Two-thirds of the clinic's TB patients are foreign-born; immigrants to the Columbus area have caused active TB cases to increase from 21 in 1997 to 41 in 1998 to 57 in 1999 to 79 in 2000. This Ohio story is a microcosm of a public-health threat cropping up in locations across America. Current annual immigration of roughly one-and-a-quarter million foreigners (legal and illegal), predominantly lacking in health coverage and largely from Third World countries, has consequences for U.S. health care. Mass immigration not only adds costs to the health-care system, it also exposes Americans to diseases that, until recently, were virtually eradicated in this country. Some of those diseases, such as tuberculosis, are highly contagious. Immigration law makes being infected with certain diseases grounds for exclusion on the basis of threatening public health. However, the screening process in the home country and at points of entry is not foolproof, and illegal migration across a land border makes it easier for a disease carrier to bypass health inspection. And it doesn't help any that some diseases, such as TB, may be carried in the body for years before becoming highly contagious. TB may again rise in the United States, and this will stem directly from mass immigration. Worldwide, this disease has made a comeback, accompanied by vaccine-resistant strains. From 1985 to 1991, TB cases rose 20 percent globally. For the first time, the World Health Organization in 1995 declared tuberculosis to be a worldwide emergency. This lung disease is ravaging Africa, Southeast Asia, and Eastern Europe. TB deaths are rising worldwide for the first time in about 40 years. TB frequently occurs in connection with HIV. In some parts of Africa, 30 percent of TB patients have HIV. The WHO attributes the quadrupling of TB in certain African countries in the past decade to the "deadly synergy between TB and HIV." Drug-resistant strains of TB and their affinity to HIV spell trouble in an age of globalization and porous borders. The threat is especially great because a third of the world's population is infected with TB; in Asia, it's half the population. A tenth of those with the disease will develop an active case of TB. Since 1988, multidrug-resistant TB cases have been reported in 43 U.S. states and in the District of Columbia. The fast rise of tuberculosis cases in Western countries portends a threat in the immigration-prone United States. Germany and Denmark saw TB cases increase 50 percent in 1996 " with two-thirds of all cases among immigrants. So far, America has escaped the public-health crisis that TB could spark. Even with record-high immigration levels, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention count declining numbers of TB cases reported nationally. Should there be a U.S. increase, it will occur because of Third World natives immigrating via Western Europe or directly from one of the WHO's TB "hot spots," such as parts of China or India, from which the majority of H-1B skilled-worker non-immigrants come. In the United States, the incidence of TB is prevalent among immigrants. About 41 percent of the 18,361 known tuberculosis cases in 1998 were immigrants; in 1986, 22 percent of new U.S. TB cases were immigrants. The foreign-born incidence of TB in the United States approaches six times that of the native-born. CDC figures show that during the period from 1993 through 1998, the native-born had 5.8 cases of TB per 100,000, while the foreign-born rate was 32.9. TB is especially prevalent in Mexicans, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Indians, Chinese, Haitians, and Koreans. Mexican immigrants have an infection rate of 35.5 cases per 100,000, far above the native-born rate. Yet, Vietnamese have an infection rate of 137.7; Haitians, 118.5; and Filipinos, 95.9. Immigrants from many Third World countries carry TB, including those from the Dominican Republic and Ecuador, and even Puerto Rico. Not surprisingly, most TB cases occur in the heaviest immigrant-receiving states: California, New York, Texas, Florida, New Jersey and Illinois. These six states accounted for about three-quarters of the cases reported from 1993-1998. Of TB cases in the Washington, D.C., area, 75 of 78 cases in Montgomery County, Md., in 1999 were immigrants or refugees. In the Virginia suburbs of Washington, 84 percent of new TB cases in 1999 were immigrants. Ninety-two percent of Fairfax County, Va.'s total TB cases in 2000 were foreign-born patients, who caused a 15 percent rise in the county's TB rate over the previous year. Clearly, the presence of large numbers of immigrants puts a strain on the American health-care system. Not only are current immigrants more likely to carry TB or some other threat to public health, nearly one-third of persons in immigrant households lack health insurance. That is more than twice the uninsured rate among native-born Americans. Immigration accounted for 59 percent of the growth of the uninsured population between 1994 and 1998. The public-health challenges of such a large, concentrated segment of uninsured persons strain public and private health resources, especially in heavy immigrant-receiving areas. Five of the six top immigrant-destination states " Texas, California, Florida, New York, and New Jersey " have higher rates of uninsured than the national average. In 1998, American hospitals delivered $19 billion, or 6 percent of total expenses, in uncompensated care. The National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems reported that, in 1997, 26 percent of its members' in-patient services and 41 percent of out-patient emergency services went to "self pay," i.e., predominantly uninsured, patients. New York City alone spent more than $1 billion over five years in the late 1980s and early 1990s to control rising tuberculosis cases. To be sure, active TB keeps an individual from immigrating to the United States; however, Third World immigrants infected with TB may not develop the disease for years. Applicants for immigration visas must have chest X-rays; however, this test doesn't always turn up inactive cases of TB. And a thriving black market of clear X-rays allows applicants to misrepresent a purchased set of X-rays as their own. Meanwhile, illegal aliens bypass these tests altogether. Once here, immigrants may avoid TB screening because of the public stigma. A female African immigrant in Maryland who worked at a Burger King restaurant avoided doctor's visits and refused to take medicine until public-health officials quarantined her in a hospital for two weeks. Immigrants also are likely to discontinue treatment if they move to another area. Obviously, this kind of conduct further threatens public health and complicates efforts to treat patients. The threat of infection has risen with the employment of immigrants in Americans' homes. For example, an immigrant TB patient secretly being treated by Maryland public-health officers worked as a wealthy family's chauffeur. Another contagious immigrant was a resident nanny. As the New York Times put it, "TB can circle the world at the speed of a passenger jet and be transmitted by a single cough." To make things worse, many U.S. public-health officials put political correctness before common sense. A Maryland public-health officer told the Washington Post, "My greatest fear is that there will be this terrible xenophobic response to anyone who is a quote-unquote refugee or immigrant." One official told the New York Times, "It may make absolute sense to screen certain subpopulations because you have evidence of rates of TB way out of proportion to what we see elsewhere. But how you do that without contributing to additional stigma is a challenge we're all confronted with." If officials have evidence that immigrants from certain nations carry TB at a much greater rate, common sense would dictate that immigrants from those places meet strict screening requirements. Certain countries could face tougher standards if they pose a public-health threat through immigration. There's no legitimate reason not to place the health of the American public above the sensibilities of certain countries, groups, or their paid advocates. Does America have the resolve to safeguard public health first, even at the risk of being politically incorrect? Do American taxpayers willingly accept the additional burden of the costs mass immigration places on the nation's health-care system? Only time will tell. But America must address these questions. In the meantime, places like Franklin County, Ohio, will bear the burden. __ By James R. Edwards is co-author of The Congressional Politics of Immigration Reform, and an adjunct fellow with the Hudson Institute. And theres plenty more to read if you want to in the first place.

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