0th anniversary of VJ Day: Thank the atomic bomb for saving millions of lives

[Unkotare]

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It always amazes be how many people say we should of surrendered to Japan. You ask who says that?....

NO ONE says that.

 

[2aguy]

3 million Americans?

How many Americans did the Germans kill before we entered the war?

From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals)

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM#:~:text=Rummel,including Western prisoners of war.

Why no tears for the Germans? Why only for the mass murdering Japanese?

The national socialists and the japanese empire were equally evil.........they did the exact same things......they both deserved the destruction needed to stop them.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You cling to your speculation because.....

...you gave the statement a thumbs down.
You hate the truth.

 

[themirrorthief]

Military planners estimated that the coming invasion of Japan in 1945-1946 would cost a quarter million Allied lives, plus several million Japanese military and civilian lives.

Instead, the atomic bomb destroyed almost no Allied lives and less than half a million Japanese lives from all causes. Horrific, but far less than the invasion would have taken.

Japanese officials were offering only a stand-down that would leave the pro-war Japanese government intact and in charge - a situation the U.S. rejected for obvious reasons.

BTW, though the two bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the only two we had on hand at that moment, the U.S. was in gear to produce half a dozen more within a few months, and more later as needed. These would have been used on Japan during the invasion if Japan didn't surrender. Fortunately for all involved, the Japanese realized that the U.S. could completely destroy Japan as a country with virtually no U.S. casualties, with the remains divided between America and Russia (who was also invading), and so saw the wisdom of surrendering.

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70th anniversary of V-J Day Kiss a nuke Hot Air

70th anniversary of V-J Day: Kiss a nuke

by Allan Bourdius
posted at 6:01 pm on August 14, 2015

Seventy years ago today on August 14, 1945, the Japanese Empire announced their surrender to the Allies and the end of World War II. The day (August 15th in Japan) is generally known as “Victory over Japan Day” or “V-J Day”. The official Japanese surrender was signed 19 days later on September 2, 1945, on board the battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) in Tokyo Bay.

During the afternoon of this day seventy years ago, joyous Americans took to the streets to celebrate the end of the war. In New York City’s Times Square, a United States Navy sailor grabbed a woman, a “nurse” (she was actually a dental assistant) he didn’t know, and kissed her right in the middle of the street, the moment captured by two different photographers. It is the iconic image of V-J Day and the end of World War II.

Instead of a nurse, it would have been more fitting if he could have kissed a nuclear weapon. The life he later lived was undoubtedly made possible because of them.

Japan’s surrender was expedited by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima (August 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (August 9, 1945). Had Japan not announced their surrender, the United States would have had the next nuclear strike ready for August 19th, and another in September.

Then, still absent Japan’s surrender, Operation Downfall would begin; the invasion of the Japanese home islands in two parts.

November 1, 1945, “X-Day”, was the scheduled date for Operation Olympic, a landing by 14 American Army and Marine divisions in the initial attack on the island of Kyūshū.

Operation Coronet would follow on “Y-Day”, March 1, 1946 – landings directly into the Tokyo plain on the island of Honshū. Twenty-five divisions. Many more would be ready to reinforce them. Many of the Coronet soldiers would have been those retrained and redeployed after defeating Nazi Germany. Victory in Europe wouldn’t have spared them from more fighting to defeat Japan.

All in all, well over two million American servicemen would have taken part in the invasion of Japan. The United States also had plans for the tactical use of nuclear weapons during the attack, anticipating having an additional seven ready bombs on X-Day.

They would have faced a Japanese enemy who correctly predicted where the landings would take place. They would have faced a Japanese enemy who had changed the training for Kamikaze pilots so they would focus on attacking troop transports and landing ships rather than warships.

Estimates of casualties were wide ranging; the Joint Chiefs of Staff predicted in April 1945 that Olympic alone would cost 456,000 casualties, 109,000 of which would be killed or missing in action.

The same study said the entire campaign – Olympic and Coronet – would result in 1,200,000 total casualties, 267,000 killed or missing.

was there a law from God saying they had to invade japan in the first place...the japs were whipped and we should have just gone home and forgot about more war

 

[elektra]

It always amazes be how many people say we should of surrendered to Japan. You ask who says that? Anybody who says we should not of ended the war by fighting are literally stating we should of surrendered.

 

[elektra]

was there a law from God saying they had to invade japan in the first place...the japs were whipped and we should have just gone home and forgot about more war

we should of surrendered?

 

[Unkotare]

NO ONE says that.

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[M14 Shooter]

-Somebody- can't handle the truth.

 

[BackAgain]

A-bomb, nuclear WMD that only America has been murderous enough to use as weapon of terror on two entirely civilian target resulting in the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands...

False.

 

[ThirdTerm]

This subject is still controversial in Japan and “Oppenheimer” will not be released in the country. “Barbie” tanked at the box office due to Warner Bros.’ apparent endorsement of fan-created “Barbenheimer” memes.

There remains no current release date for “Oppenheimer” in Japan, which suffered the nuclear bombing discussed in the film.

“Barbie” debuted on Aug. 11 to $1.4 million from 650 screens. Sensitives had previously been stirred by distributor Warner Bros.’ apparent endorsement of fan-created “Barbenheimer” memes that had made light of nuclear detonations. In an unusual step, Warner Japan publicly criticized its U.S. parent company, eliciting a quick and unconditional apology. It is not clear whether that storm has now dissipated, or whether the chance of “Oppenheimer” ever releasing in Japan has been made more remote.

 

[Unkotare]

And his union protects his incompetence.

Who are you talking about?

 

[Unkotare]

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People do not shed tears for the German civilians killed ....

Are you glad that German civilians were killed? Are you glad that Russian civilians were killed? French? Italian? AMERICAN? Do you celebrate the deliberate targeting and killing of civilians? Any civilians? Is that the kind of country you want us to be?

 

[Unkotare]

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It always amazes be how many people say we should of [sic] surrendered to Japan. ...

No one says that.

 

[Unkotare]

How many Americans did the Germans kill before we entered the war?
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Too many.

 

[Unkotare]

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Why no tears for the Germans? .....

So you ARE happy that German civilians were killed? You approve of what the Soviet army did in Germany at the end of the war? Is that the kind of person you are?

 

[Unkotare]

.... we should have just gone home and forgot about more war

That would have been a bad idea.

 

[Unkotare]

-Somebody- can't handle the truth.

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Keep trying. Maybe someday you will.

 

[AZrailwhale]

That would have been a bad idea.

What's your alternative? You are against using nukes, you are against invading as well. Would you recommend a multi-year blockade that would result in the starvation deaths of a large percentage of the Japanese civilians as well as ALL the allied POWS in Japan while the IJA continued to slaughter civilians in occupied China, Korea, South East Asia and the Dutch East Indies?

 

[Unkotare]

This subject is still controversial in Japan and “Oppenheimer” will not be released in the country. ...

Remains to be seen. The film has not been banned.

No ‘Oppenheimer’ Fanfare for Those Caught in First Atomic Bomb’s Fallout

TULAROSA, N.M. – A strong rumble woke 13-year-old Lucy Benavidez Garwood in the darkness, shaking the three-room adobe house where she and her family lived and rattling dishes in the kitchen cupboard. Neighbors who gathered that morning agreed it must have been an earthquake.

japannews.yomiuri.co.jp

 

[Unkotare]

What's your alternative? ....

There were many alternatives.