0th anniversary of VJ Day: Thank the atomic bomb for saving millions of lives

[PaintMyHouse]

War is a ugly thing and we did what we needed to do to win the damn thing. The far left is foolish to think we won't get into another one...

Why would they believe that? Americans love war, it's why we spend so much cash building all those deadly toys you love...

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The Japs had to be nuked.

No, they did not. Only pussies use terror, American pussies in this case.

How were we to get the Japs to stop fighting then?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Japs had to be nuked.

No, they did not. Only pussies use terror, American pussies in this case.

How were we to get the Japs to stop fighting then?

Easy, all we had to do was wait. They were already in the process of surrendering.

 

[my2¢]

Last month our local paper had an interesting story on the Japanese spy planted in Pearl Harbor and how he was held here in Arizona for a while (at guest ranch where they later shot the original 3:10 to Yuma). The U.S. did not know his true identification and failed to make connection. Thus he was included in a 1942 prisoner exchange.
Pearl Harbor spy was detained at Triangle T Ranch

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The Japs had to be nuked.

No, they did not. Only pussies use terror, American pussies in this case.

How were we to get the Japs to stop fighting then?

Easy, all we had to do was wait. They were already in the process of surrendering.

No they weren't. They didn't even surrender after the first bomb. It took two.

 

[nuhuh]

The Japs had to be nuked.

No, they did not. Only pussies use terror, American pussies in this case.

How were we to get the Japs to stop fighting then?

Easy, all we had to do was wait. They were already in the process of surrendering.

No they weren't. They didn't even surrender after the first bomb. It took two.

Why was it necessary to kill 200,000 civilians? What would we have said if roles were reversed and the Japanese bombed Honolulu and Norfolk Virginia cities in equal size? Where were the military targets?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Japs had to be nuked.

No, they did not. Only pussies use terror, American pussies in this case.

How were we to get the Japs to stop fighting then?

Easy, all we had to do was wait. They were already in the process of surrendering.

No they weren't. They didn't even surrender after the first bomb. It took two.

Learn the history, the war was going to end either way soon enough...

"General Douglas MacArthur, Commander of US Army forces in the Pacific, stated on numerous occasions before his death that the atomic bomb was completely unnecessary from a military point of view: "My staff was unanimous in believing that Japan was on the point of collapse and surrender."

General Curtis LeMay, who had pioneered precision bombing of Germany and Japan (and who later headed the Strategic Air Command and served as Air Force chief of staff), put it most succinctly: "The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war."
Was Hiroshima Necessary

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The bombs were payback for the attack at Pearl Harbor and the men of the USS Arizona.

 

[Unkotare]

Civilians specifically targeted and slaughtered for revenge against a decimated military opponent?

 

[Unkotare]

Those 'limited' individuals who are incapable of even discussing it without the use of racial slurs represent a disturbing aspect of the issue.

 

[nuhuh]

Civilians specifically targeted and slaughtered for revenge against a decimated military opponent?

I'm clearly against the use of nuclear devices against civilians but there is two sides to this story. The targets were selected by committee and were chosen both because of their military significance and the fact the military was using the civilian population to hide behind, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also defended by anti aircraft guns and fighter planes. The Army Air Corp dropped leaflets for days preceding the attacks, we broadcasted terms of surrender, we sent an ambassador to the Swiss to negotiate terms, and we received no response when we issued the Potsdam Declaration. From an American point of view we had no choice.

10 million Japanese were killed in the lead up to the nuclear bombing, there is no way to equate the bombing to a payback for Pearl Harbor. We had paid them back many times over already.

Last, the Japanese had already lost the war at Midway, the loss of four carriers and assorted other vessels nailed them to the wall. The war was dragged out by their dying strategy of making it as bloody as possible and fighting to the last man. They mistakenly thought we were weak and would give up from the blood thirstyness of it all.

 

[Unkotare]

Civilians specifically targeted and slaughtered for revenge against a decimated military opponent?

10 million Japanese were killed in the lead up to the nuclear bombing, there is no way to equate the bombing to a payback for Pearl Harbor. We had paid them back many times over already.

Tell that to Steve McMaggot, he seems to think differently.

 

[Unkotare]

And saying "we had no choice" is specious. It is a means of avoiding the central moral issue. We had several choices.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In a war FDR and his jewish advisers got us into. World would be a much better place today had Hitler won and the Jew lost.

Ya Germany and Japan had NOTHING to do with us being in WW2, it was all those damned Jess faulty, they secretly bombed Pearl harbor and pretended to be Japanese and then they pretended to be Hitler and declared war on us pretending to be Germany.Man are they ever sneaky.

 

[nuhuh]

And saying "we had no choice" is specious. It is a means of avoiding the central moral issue. We had several choices.

The United States thought it had righteousness on their side and thought that a bomb of this magnitude would end the war in the most humane way. After five years and 250,000 dead they had had enough. The "no choice" is a relative term and the American people were tired of it, deciding to bring an end in the quickest way possible. I agree that I wish they had debated other ways to accomplish this, but it is what it is.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Japanese Government had NO intention of surrendering even after 2 Atomic Bombs the Army which ran the Government attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The Japanese Government had NO intention of surrendering even after 2 Atomic Bombs the Army which ran the Government attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering.

So true! Tojo was the ringleader.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Military planners estimated that the coming invasion of Japan in 1945-1946 would cost a quarter million Allied lives, plus several million Japanese military and civilian lives.

Instead, the atomic bomb destroyed almost no Allied lives and less than half a million Japanese lives from all causes. Horrific, but far less than the invasion would have taken.

Japanese officials were offering only a stand-down that would leave the pro-war Japanese government intact and in charge - a situation the U.S. rejected for obvious reasons.

BTW, though the two bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the only two we had on hand at that moment, the U.S. was in gear to produce half a dozen more within a few months, and more later as needed. These would have been used on Japan during the invasion if Japan didn't surrender. Fortunately for all involved, the Japanese realized that the U.S. could completely destroy Japan as a country with virtually no U.S. casualties, with the remains divided between America and Russia (who was also invading), and so saw the wisdom of surrendering.

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70th anniversary of V-J Day Kiss a nuke Hot Air

70th anniversary of V-J Day: Kiss a nuke

by Allan Bourdius
posted at 6:01 pm on August 14, 2015

Seventy years ago today on August 14, 1945, the Japanese Empire announced their surrender to the Allies and the end of World War II. The day (August 15th in Japan) is generally known as “Victory over Japan Day” or “V-J Day”. The official Japanese surrender was signed 19 days later on September 2, 1945, on board the battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) in Tokyo Bay.

During the afternoon of this day seventy years ago, joyous Americans took to the streets to celebrate the end of the war. In New York City’s Times Square, a United States Navy sailor grabbed a woman, a “nurse” (she was actually a dental assistant) he didn’t know, and kissed her right in the middle of the street, the moment captured by two different photographers. It is the iconic image of V-J Day and the end of World War II.

Instead of a nurse, it would have been more fitting if he could have kissed a nuclear weapon. The life he later lived was undoubtedly made possible because of them.

Japan’s surrender was expedited by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima (August 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (August 9, 1945). Had Japan not announced their surrender, the United States would have had the next nuclear strike ready for August 19th, and another in September.

Then, still absent Japan’s surrender, Operation Downfall would begin; the invasion of the Japanese home islands in two parts.

November 1, 1945, “X-Day”, was the scheduled date for Operation Olympic, a landing by 14 American Army and Marine divisions in the initial attack on the island of Kyūshū.

Operation Coronet would follow on “Y-Day”, March 1, 1946 – landings directly into the Tokyo plain on the island of Honshū. Twenty-five divisions. Many more would be ready to reinforce them. Many of the Coronet soldiers would have been those retrained and redeployed after defeating Nazi Germany. Victory in Europe wouldn’t have spared them from more fighting to defeat Japan.

All in all, well over two million American servicemen would have taken part in the invasion of Japan. The United States also had plans for the tactical use of nuclear weapons during the attack, anticipating having an additional seven ready bombs on X-Day.

They would have faced a Japanese enemy who correctly predicted where the landings would take place. They would have faced a Japanese enemy who had changed the training for Kamikaze pilots so they would focus on attacking troop transports and landing ships rather than warships.

Estimates of casualties were wide ranging; the Joint Chiefs of Staff predicted in April 1945 that Olympic alone would cost 456,000 casualties, 109,000 of which would be killed or missing in action.

The same study said the entire campaign – Olympic and Coronet – would result in 1,200,000 total casualties, 267,000 killed or missing.

That's what you think about when you think about V-J Day?

Weird.

 

[Preacher]

In a war FDR and his jewish advisers got us into. World would be a much better place today had Hitler won and the Jew lost.

Ya Germany and Japan had NOTHING to do with us being in WW2, it was all those damned Jess faulty, they secretly bombed Pearl harbor and pretended to be Japanese and then they pretended to be Hitler and declared war on us pretending to be Germany.Man are they ever sneaky.

Inconvenient History A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
The Zionist Jewish Role In Causing World War II
Jew Watch - Jewish World Conspiracies - Zionism - World War Two - World War II

Oh and as far as Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt and his Jewish advisers declared economic war on Japan cutting off their oil supply Japan had no choice but to attack. That was the entire plan by Roosevelt. He knew the US citizenry would not stand for war unless they thought that they had been attacked and they knew Germany wanted no war with the US or England. Read MK you would know that.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In a war FDR and his jewish advisers got us into. World would be a much better place today had Hitler won and the Jew lost.

Ya Germany and Japan had NOTHING to do with us being in WW2, it was all those damned Jess faulty, they secretly bombed Pearl harbor and pretended to be Japanese and then they pretended to be Hitler and declared war on us pretending to be Germany.Man are they ever sneaky.

Inconvenient History A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
The Zionist Jewish Role In Causing World War II
Jew Watch - Jewish World Conspiracies - Zionism - World War Two - World War II

Oh and as far as Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt and his Jewish advisers declared economic war on Japan cutting off their oil supply Japan had no choice but to attack. That was the entire plan by Roosevelt. He knew the US citizenry would not stand for war unless they thought that they had been attacked and they knew Germany wanted no war with the US or England. Read MK you would know that.

Retard alert, retard alert. We cut off Japan because they went back to war with China. Ohh and explain how it is an act of war NOT to sell to someone?