We are living through the latest example of democracy eventually failing.

[Mac-7]

Yes. Your answer was a non answer. Completely asinine. I assume you don't have a cogent answer. Again, did you not understand the question?

You asked for an example and I gave you America

There is nothing asinine about that

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You asked for an example and I gave you America

There is nothing asinine about that

America is not a definition of 'white culture', nor is it a benefit of 'white culture'. That's a mental patient answer. Are you a mental patient?

 

[Foxfyre]

The guardrails the Founders put in the Constitution to protect America from the well-known and inevitable decline of a democracy still require a moral and thoughtful citizenry. We have neither. Look at this list of reasons given for the decline of the Roman republic:

There Was An Imbalance Of Power Between The Aristocracy And The Rest Of Society
They Broke Into Factions Who Prioritized Their Own Aims Over Their Republic
Ancient Democracies Limited Voting To Select Citizens
Demagogues Were Able To Easily Persuade A Misled Populace
Political Campaigns Were Expensive And Mired In Controversy
Certain Individuals Had Their Own Personal Military
Senators Stalled Vital Legislation With Filibusters
Senators Began Using Violence To Get Rid Of Political Adversaries
Participation In Long-Running Wars Caused Regional Instability
Autocratic Powers Rigged Democratic Systems To Put Themselves In Power
All People Were Free To Live As They Pleased

As the Bible says, there is nothing new under the sun. The Founders tried to protect against the inevitable. They understood how fragile a democracy is and how dependent it is on the character of the citizens.

John Adams stated it this way, “Public virtue cannot exist in a Nation without private Virtue, and public Virtue is the only Foundation of Republics.

George Washington said: “Virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government,”[6] and “Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people.”

Benjamin Franklin said: “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

James Madison stated: “To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical [imaginary] idea.”

Thomas Jefferson wrote, “No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and … their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice … These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.”

Samuel Adams said: “Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue.”

Patrick Henry stated that: “A vitiated [impure] state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom.”

John Adams stated: “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

I guess there is something cool about being witness to this shit show as it happens, but it's actually terrifying for those of us with children.

It should be terrifying for everybody but alas, our education system is too infused with leftist 'woke' doctrines and educates far too few.

When our son and daughter-in-law were dating, my DIL, product of the Albuquerque school system, asked me "Who is Karl Marx?" When our grand daughter was almost ready for high school our DIL went to college to get her degree which she did. She majored in marketing and even though she had to have a few hours of history to graduate, she didn't learn anything about Karl Marx there either.

Fast forward a decade or two:

Recently when working with a small group of high schoolers, I can't remember what came up to prompt it, but I remember asking them "Who knows who Karl Marx was?" Met with awkward silence I prompted them: "Is the name familiar to you?" To some it was. "Who do you think he probably was?" Answers were "A former President?" "A congressman or senator?" "Media personality?" "Don't know."

Considering the profound influence Marx had on modern history, it was horrifying to me that one of the nation's largest school districts was not teaching that history at all.
It's no wonder that so many leftists don't recognize what the government is currently doing is right out of Marx and Engles' playbook.

George Soros, community organizers, and those organizing, promoting, funding, directing these protests around the country are pretty much all students of Saul Alinsky and utilize his methods. Alinsky himself, while not officially declaring himself a communist or socialist, greatly admired the concepts promoted by Marx and certainly used Marxist theories as a guideline for his "Rules for Radicals".

Democracy or a representative democracy is not the goal.

 

[Mac-7]

America is not a definition of 'white culture', nor is it a benefit of 'white culture'. That's a mental patient answer. Are you a mental patient?

It sure is

America was built and based on white culture

 

[Mac-7]

It should be terrifying for everybody but alas, our education system is too infused with leftist 'woke' doctrines and educates far too few.

When our son and daughter-in-law were dating, my DIL, product of the Albuquerque school system, asked me "Who is Karl Marx?" When our grand daughter was almost ready for high school our DIL went to college to get her degree which she did. She majored in marketing and even though she had to have a few hours of history to graduate, she didn't learn anything about Karl Marx there either.

Fast forward a decade or two:

Recently when working with a small group of high schoolers, I can't remember what came up to prompt it, but I remember asking them "Who knows who Karl Marx was?" Met with awkward silence I prompted them: "Is the name familiar to you?" To some it was. "Who do you think he probably was?" Answers were "A former President?" "A congressman or senator?" "Media personality?" "Don't know."

Considering the profound influence Marx had on modern history, it was horrifying to me that one of the nation's largest school districts was not teaching that history at all.
It's no wonder that so many leftists don't recognize what the government is currently doing is right out of Marx and Engles' playbook.

George Soros, community organizers, and those organizing, promoting, funding, directing these protests around the country are pretty much all students of Saul Alinsky and utilize his methods. Alinsky himself, while not officially declaring himself a communist or socialist, greatly admired the concepts promoted by Marx and certainly used Marxist theories as a guideline for his "Rules for Radicals".

Democracy or a representative democracy is not the goal.

Like the man said, those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It sure is

America was built and based on white culture

No it sure isn't.

 

[Mac-7]

No it sure isn't.

You are wrong

America was created by whites using the best of white culture

Now after 200 plus years we include others

You dont have to be white or Christian to participate in white culture

Everyone is welcome

But its better when we are all on the same page

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You are wrong

America was created by whites using the best if white culture

Now after 200 plus years we include others

You dont have to be white or Christian to participate in white culture

Everyone is welcome

But its better when we are all on the same page

Well we are most certainly not on the same page. You aren't even man enough to define 'white culture'. Nevertheless, I believe you're weak and a racist piece of garbage.

 

[Mac-7]

Well we are most certainly not on the same page. You aren't even man enough to define 'white culture'. Nevertheless, I believe you're weak and a racist piece of garbage.

Well like the man said, it may be hard to explain (particularly when its a hard headed lib on the other end), but I know it when I see it

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Well like the man said, it may be hard to explain (particularly when its a hard headed lib on the other end), but I know it when I see it

You're dumb as a post as well.

 

[Mac-7]

You're dumb as a post as well.

I’m not impressed with you either

 

[Curried Goats]

The same goes for you

There is no evidence that many if any black people would have reached America prior to 1965 except for slavery

That's a reality that you just cant wrap your mind around

How would there be evidence for an alternate history that never happened, moron? You really don't understand that all your scenarios are fantasies, do you? Amazing.

 

[Curried Goats]

Maybe you are a fake but you like to talk tough

All you need to complete the picture is some gold teeth and pants down low to show the crack of your ass

What you mean to say is that my arguments are stronger than yours because mine don't really on make believe and fantasy. That I'd agree with. It has nothing to do with me being a tough guy, it has to do with you being too emotionally frail to argue without the use of fantasy and make believe to prop you and your arguments up.

 

[Curried Goats]

You are not only a slaveholder but a slaveholder in denial. Do you wear clothes? Do you wear sneakers? Do you eat and drink? Do you own a cellphone? You must own a computer.

The Global Slavery Index 2023 – ICSF

www.icsf.net

Global Slavery Index | Walk Free

The 2023 Global Slavery Index provides an assessment of 160 countries, including an estimation of the number of people living in modern slavery, the extent to which a country’s population is vulnerable to modern slavery, and an examination of how well governments are responding to modern slavery.

www.walkfree.org

What I deny is that a former musician or fishmongers are credible sources for who is or isn't a slaver.

 

[Thunderbird]

What I deny is that a former musician or fishmongers are credible sources for who is or isn't a slaver.

You are grasping at straws. You are no different than the pre-Civil War American holders of black slaves.

Many credible organizations have called attention to the millions of slaves involved in agriculture, mining, manufacturing, etc. If you are part of the global economy you benefit from the labor of slaves.

50 million people in modern slavery: UN report | United Nations

Forced labour and marriage have increased significantly over the last five years.

www.un.org

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/09/13/1122714064/modern-slavery-global-estimate-increase

 

[Curried Goats]

You are grasping at straws. You are no different than the pre-Civil War American holders of black slaves.

Many credible organizations have called attention to the millions of slaves involved in agriculture, mining, manufacturing, etc.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/09/13/1122714064/modern-slavery-global-estimate-increase

I'm not the one posting websites to former musicians turned slavery expert.....

 

[Mac-7]

How would there be evidence for an alternate history that never happened, moron? You really don't understand that all your scenarios are fantasies, do you? Amazing.

You have conjured up an excuse that blacks cant possibly succeed in America today because of slavery 200 years ago

Its the basis for the demand for reparations today

Getting your unearned walking around money depends on conning as many guilt-ridden white people as possibe

But I’m not one of them

Without slavery then you would not have American citizenship today

 

[Mac-7]

What you mean to say is that my arguments are stronger than yours because mine don't really on make believe and fantasy. That I'd agree with. It has nothing to do with me being a tough guy, it has to do with you being too emotionally frail to argue without the use of fantasy and make believe to prop you and your arguments up.

See post 377

 

[Superbadbrutha]

To me it means faith in the God of Abraham, either through Jews or Christians, reverence for the family consisting of one man, one woman and children, a desire for education, hard work, obeying the law, a respect for human life,

What else?

There is more I’m sure but those are very important

How many wives did Abraham have?

How many wives did Moses have?

How many wives did King James have?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You know I am right

There is little chance that backward tribesmen from africa could reach the New World unless white people brought them here

Struth this white man said without him you would be coonin in Africa today, do you believe that?