Zogby - Dem Congress Rating Worst Ever

[red states rule]

I am NOT 180 degrees away from ANY democrat and I am further away from every republican than I am from any democrat. The same as you are on the other side of the spectrum. If you want to claim that I put party above country, you must accept the same criticism for yourself.

It is nice to see you are fessing up you are a liberal Democrat and not the moderate you ahve been claiming to be

 

[maineman]

Here is some stuff JUST on her first term in the Senate. Nothing here at all about being a best selling author, a successful trial attorney.... influential first lady.... this is just the recent stuff:

When Clinton entered the United States Senate, she maintained a low public profile as she built relationships with senators from both parties, to avoid the polarizing celebrity she experienced as First Lady.[63][109][110][111] It was reported that when Elizabeth Dole joined the Senate in 2003 under somewhat similar circumstances, she modeled her initial approach after Clinton's,[112] as did the nationally visible Barack Obama in 2005.[113]

In the Senate, Clinton sits on five committees with nine subcommittee assignments in all:

Committee on Armed Services (since 2003,[114] replacing an earlier assignment from 2001 on the Committee on Budget[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Airland | Emerging Threats and Capabilities | Readiness and Management Support
Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Clean Air, Wetlands, Private Property, and Nuclear Safety | Fisheries, Wildlife, and Water | Superfund, Waste Control, and Risk Assessment
Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions(since 2001[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Aging | Children and Families
Special Committee on Aging.[116]
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, in which the World Trade Center in New York City was destroyed, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts and security improvements in her state. She was audibly booed in an audience of New York firefighters and police officers during her on-stage appearance at The Concert for New York City on October 20, 2001.[117] Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she helped secure $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment.[118] In 2005, Clinton issued two studies that examined the disbursement of federal homeland security funds to local communities and first responders. Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001, as did all but one senator. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it,[119] before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.[120]

As a member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Clinton strongly supported military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government.[121] Clinton voted in favor of the Iraq Resolution, which authorized United States President George W. Bush to use military force against Iraq, should such action be required to enforce a United Nations Security Council Resolution after pursuing with diplomatic efforts. Clinton later said that she did not read the National Intelligence Estimate that was delivered 10 days before the vote to all members of Congress, but that she was briefed on the report.[122]

After the Iraq War began, Clinton made trips to both Iraq and Afghanistan to visit American troops stationed there, such as the 10th Mountain Division based in Fort Drum, New York. On a visit to Iraq in February 2005, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well.[123] Noting that war deployments are draining regular and reserve forces, she co-introduced legislation to increase the size of the regular United States Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain.[124] In late 2005, Clinton said that while immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake, Bush's pledge to stay "until the job is done" is also misguided, as it gives Iraqis "an open-ended invitation not to take care of themselves." She criticized the administration for making poor decisions in the war, but added that it was more important to solve the problems in Iraq.[125] This centrist and somewhat vague stance caused frustration among those in the Democratic party who favor immediate withdrawal.[126] Clinton supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans, and lobbied against the closure of several military bases.[127]

Senator Clinton voted against the tax cuts introduced by President Bush, including the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, saying it was fiscally irresponsible to reopen the budget deficit. At the 2000 Democratic National Convention, Clinton had called for maintaining a budget surplus to pay down the national debt for future generations. At a fundraiser in 2004, she told a crowd of financial donors that "Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you" but that "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."[128]


Senator Clinton delivers an address to Families USA.
Clinton appears with her husband on the opening night of the 2004 Democratic National Convention.In Clinton's first term as senator, New York's jobless rate rose by 0.7 percent after a nationwide recession.[129] The state's manufacturing sector was especially beleaguered, losing about 170,000 jobs.[130] In 2005, Clinton and Senator Lindsey Graham cosponsored the American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition, which provides incentives and rewards for completely domestic American manufacturing companies.[131] In 2003, Clinton convinced the information technology firm Tata Consultancy Services to open an office in Buffalo, New York,[132] but some criticized the plan because Tata is also involved in the business of outsourcing.[133] In 2004, Clinton co-founded and became the co-chair of the Senate India Caucus[134] with the aid of USINPAC, a political action committee.[135][136]

Senator Clinton led a bipartisan effort to bring broadband access to rural communities. She cosponsored the 21st Century Nanotechnology Research and Development Act, which encourages research and development in the field of nanotechnology.[137] She included language in an energy bill to provide tax exempt bonding authority for environmentally conscious construction projects,[138] and introduced an amendment that funds job creation to repair, renovate and modernize public schools.[138]

In 2005, Clinton was joined by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who once led the Republican opposition to her husband's administration,[139] in support of a proposal for incremental universal health care.[140] She also worked with Bill Frist, the Republican Senate Majority Leader, in support of modernizing medical records with computer technology to reduce human errors, such as misreading prescriptions.[141]

During the 2005 debate over the use of filibusters by Senate Democrats, which prevented some of President Bush's judicial nominations from being confirmed, Clinton was not part of the "Gang of 14", a bipartisan group of senators who would support cloture but oppose the Republican threat to abolish the filibuster. However, she did vote in favor of cloture along with that group, thereby allowing the nominations to come to a vote. She subsequently voted against three of the nominees, but all were confirmed by the Senate.[142]

Clinton voted against the confirmation of John Roberts as Chief Justice of the United States, saying "I do not believe that the Judge has presented his views with enough clarity and specificity for me to in good conscience cast a vote on his behalf," but then said she hoped her concerns would prove to be unfounded.[143] Roberts was confirmed by a solid majority, with half the Senate's Democrats voting for him and half against.[144] She joined with about half of the Democratic Senators in support of the filibuster against the nomination of Samuel Alito to the United States Supreme Court, and subsequenty voted against his confirmation along with almost all Democratic members of the Senate.[145] On the Senate floor, Clinton said Alito would "roll back decades of progress and roll over when confronted with an administration too willing to flaunt the rules and looking for a rubber stamp."[146] Alito was confirmed in a vote split largely along party lines.

Clinton sought to establish an independent, bipartisan panel patterned after the 9/11 Commission to investigate the response to Hurricane Katrina by the federal, state and local governments, but could not obtain the two-thirds majority needed to overcome procedural hurdles in the Senate.[147]

In 2005, Clinton called for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate how hidden sex scenes showed up in the controversial video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.[148] Along with Senators Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh, she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act, intended to protect children from inappropriate content found in video games. Similar bills have been filed in some states such as Michigan and Illinois, but were ruled to be unconstitutional.

In July 2004 and June 2006, Clinton voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment that sought to prohibit same-sex marriage. The proposed constitutional amendment fell well short of passage on both occasions. On June 27, 2006, Clinton voted against the Flag Desecration Amendment, which failed to pass by one vote. Earlier, she attempted to reach a compromise by proposing a legislative ban on flag burning that would not require a constitutional amendment, but it was also voted down.[149]

and that is from wikipedia

 

[maineman]

It is nice to see you are fessing up you are a liberal Democrat and not the moderate you ahve been claiming to be

where do I do that?

 

[maineman]

and it is predictable that you have revealed yourself to be a partisan hack.

 

[red states rule]

Here is some stuff JUST on her first term in the Senate. Nothing here at all about being a best selling author, a successful trial attorney.... influential first lady.... this is just the recent stuff:

When Clinton entered the United States Senate, she maintained a low public profile as she built relationships with senators from both parties, to avoid the polarizing celebrity she experienced as First Lady.[63][109][110][111] It was reported that when Elizabeth Dole joined the Senate in 2003 under somewhat similar circumstances, she modeled her initial approach after Clinton's,[112] as did the nationally visible Barack Obama in 2005.[113]

In the Senate, Clinton sits on five committees with nine subcommittee assignments in all:

Committee on Armed Services (since 2003,[114] replacing an earlier assignment from 2001 on the Committee on Budget[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Airland | Emerging Threats and Capabilities | Readiness and Management Support
Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Clean Air, Wetlands, Private Property, and Nuclear Safety | Fisheries, Wildlife, and Water | Superfund, Waste Control, and Risk Assessment
Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions(since 2001[115])
Subcommittee Assignments: Aging | Children and Families
Special Committee on Aging.[116]
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, in which the World Trade Center in New York City was destroyed, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts and security improvements in her state. She was audibly booed in an audience of New York firefighters and police officers during her on-stage appearance at The Concert for New York City on October 20, 2001.[117] Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she helped secure $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment.[118] In 2005, Clinton issued two studies that examined the disbursement of federal homeland security funds to local communities and first responders. Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001, as did all but one senator. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it,[119] before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.[120]

As a member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Clinton strongly supported military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government.[121] Clinton voted in favor of the Iraq Resolution, which authorized United States President George W. Bush to use military force against Iraq, should such action be required to enforce a United Nations Security Council Resolution after pursuing with diplomatic efforts. Clinton later said that she did not read the National Intelligence Estimate that was delivered 10 days before the vote to all members of Congress, but that she was briefed on the report.[122]

After the Iraq War began, Clinton made trips to both Iraq and Afghanistan to visit American troops stationed there, such as the 10th Mountain Division based in Fort Drum, New York. On a visit to Iraq in February 2005, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well.[123] Noting that war deployments are draining regular and reserve forces, she co-introduced legislation to increase the size of the regular United States Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain.[124] In late 2005, Clinton said that while immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake, Bush's pledge to stay "until the job is done" is also misguided, as it gives Iraqis "an open-ended invitation not to take care of themselves." She criticized the administration for making poor decisions in the war, but added that it was more important to solve the problems in Iraq.[125] This centrist and somewhat vague stance caused frustration among those in the Democratic party who favor immediate withdrawal.[126] Clinton supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans, and lobbied against the closure of several military bases.[127]

Senator Clinton voted against the tax cuts introduced by President Bush, including the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, saying it was fiscally irresponsible to reopen the budget deficit. At the 2000 Democratic National Convention, Clinton had called for maintaining a budget surplus to pay down the national debt for future generations. At a fundraiser in 2004, she told a crowd of financial donors that "Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you" but that "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."[128]


Senator Clinton delivers an address to Families USA.
Clinton appears with her husband on the opening night of the 2004 Democratic National Convention.In Clinton's first term as senator, New York's jobless rate rose by 0.7 percent after a nationwide recession.[129] The state's manufacturing sector was especially beleaguered, losing about 170,000 jobs.[130] In 2005, Clinton and Senator Lindsey Graham cosponsored the American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition, which provides incentives and rewards for completely domestic American manufacturing companies.[131] In 2003, Clinton convinced the information technology firm Tata Consultancy Services to open an office in Buffalo, New York,[132] but some criticized the plan because Tata is also involved in the business of outsourcing.[133] In 2004, Clinton co-founded and became the co-chair of the Senate India Caucus[134] with the aid of USINPAC, a political action committee.[135][136]

Senator Clinton led a bipartisan effort to bring broadband access to rural communities. She cosponsored the 21st Century Nanotechnology Research and Development Act, which encourages research and development in the field of nanotechnology.[137] She included language in an energy bill to provide tax exempt bonding authority for environmentally conscious construction projects,[138] and introduced an amendment that funds job creation to repair, renovate and modernize public schools.[138]

In 2005, Clinton was joined by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who once led the Republican opposition to her husband's administration,[139] in support of a proposal for incremental universal health care.[140] She also worked with Bill Frist, the Republican Senate Majority Leader, in support of modernizing medical records with computer technology to reduce human errors, such as misreading prescriptions.[141]

During the 2005 debate over the use of filibusters by Senate Democrats, which prevented some of President Bush's judicial nominations from being confirmed, Clinton was not part of the "Gang of 14", a bipartisan group of senators who would support cloture but oppose the Republican threat to abolish the filibuster. However, she did vote in favor of cloture along with that group, thereby allowing the nominations to come to a vote. She subsequently voted against three of the nominees, but all were confirmed by the Senate.[142]

Clinton voted against the confirmation of John Roberts as Chief Justice of the United States, saying "I do not believe that the Judge has presented his views with enough clarity and specificity for me to in good conscience cast a vote on his behalf," but then said she hoped her concerns would prove to be unfounded.[143] Roberts was confirmed by a solid majority, with half the Senate's Democrats voting for him and half against.[144] She joined with about half of the Democratic Senators in support of the filibuster against the nomination of Samuel Alito to the United States Supreme Court, and subsequenty voted against his confirmation along with almost all Democratic members of the Senate.[145] On the Senate floor, Clinton said Alito would "roll back decades of progress and roll over when confronted with an administration too willing to flaunt the rules and looking for a rubber stamp."[146] Alito was confirmed in a vote split largely along party lines.

Clinton sought to establish an independent, bipartisan panel patterned after the 9/11 Commission to investigate the response to Hurricane Katrina by the federal, state and local governments, but could not obtain the two-thirds majority needed to overcome procedural hurdles in the Senate.[147]

In 2005, Clinton called for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate how hidden sex scenes showed up in the controversial video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.[148] Along with Senators Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh, she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act, intended to protect children from inappropriate content found in video games. Similar bills have been filed in some states such as Michigan and Illinois, but were ruled to be unconstitutional.

In July 2004 and June 2006, Clinton voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment that sought to prohibit same-sex marriage. The proposed constitutional amendment fell well short of passage on both occasions. On June 27, 2006, Clinton voted against the Flag Desecration Amendment, which failed to pass by one vote. Earlier, she attempted to reach a compromise by proposing a legislative ban on flag burning that would not require a constitutional amendment, but it was also voted down.[149]

and that is from wikipedia

so she sat on committies and cast votes

What has she accomplished?

Is it such a hard question to answer?

 

[red states rule]

where do I do that?

higher taxes on all earners

government run health care

Judges making law from the bench

That is what you gal is for - not a moderate as you bellow

 

[maineman]

higher taxes on all earners

government run health care

Judges making law from the bench

That is what you gal is for - not a moderate as you bellow

as I have said over and over again. there are many issues at stake. healthcare and tax policy are not my important issues. I agree with all the democrats on the issues that are most important to me.

YOU, for example, claim to be a "hardcore conservative", but you support a guy who is dead against major hardcore conservative values because you are with him on the issues that count for you.

Unlike you, I have not initially given up ALL of my values to throw my support behind a candidate that does not best exemplify and encapsulate the majority of my values.

YOu have.

 

[maineman]

so she sat on committies and cast votes

What has she accomplished?

Is it such a hard question to answer?

asked and answered.

 

[red states rule]

as I have said over and over again. there are many issues at stake. healthcare and tax policy are not my important issues. I agree with all the democrats on the issues that are most important to me.

YOU, for example, claim to be a "hardcore conservative", but you support a guy who is dead against major hardcore conservative values because you are with him on the issues that count for you.

Unlike you, I have not initially given up ALL of my values to throw my support behind a candidate that does not best exemplify and encapsulate the majority of my values.

YOu have.

Ok

So issues mean nothing to you - only electing more Dems

We all get it now

 

[maineman]

Ok

So issues mean nothing to you - only electing more Dems

We all get it now

you are being purposely obtuse. Issues mean a great deal to me. Some issues mean a lot more than others.

abortion, for example, obviously doesn't mean very much to you, does it?

gay rights, for example, obviously doesn't mean very much to you, does it?

 

[red states rule]

you are being purposely obtuse. Issues mean a great deal to me. Some issues mean a lot more than others.

abortion, for example, obviously doesn't mean very much to you, does it?

gay rights, for example, obviously doesn't mean very much to you, does it?

Already answered

Hillary has acomplished nothing - but since she is a Dem (and a liberal) you wil vote for her

 

[maineman]

Already answered

Hillary has acomplished nothing - but since she is a Dem (and a liberal) you wil vote for her

if she gets the nomination, I will vote for her because I think her positions and accomplishments are more in tune with my way of thinking than any republican running.

just like you for rudy....actually...a bit different, isn't it? I will reluctantly vote for Hillary because she is NOT my first choice in the democratic field given MY moderate philosophy....

YOU, on the other hand, have abandoned your hardcore conservative philosophy right out of the gate and have thrown good hardcore conservative candidates - who believe exactly like you do on all the issues that are important to you - under the bus and support a moderate republican solely because he is electable.

hack. liar. moron. animal hater.

 

[red states rule]

if she gets the nomination, I will vote for her because I think her positions and accomplishments are more in tune with my way of thinking than any republican running.

just like you for rudy....actually...a bit different, isn't it? I will reluctantly vote for Hillary because she is NOT my first choice in the democratic field given MY moderate philosophy....

YOU, on the other hand, have abandoned your hardcore conservative philosophy right out of the gate and have thrown good hardcore conservative candidates - who believe exactly like you do on all the issues that are important to you - under the bus and support a moderate republican solely because he is electable.

hack. liar. moron. animal hater.

Of course she agrres with you

Higher taxes

Governemnt run health care

Liberal Judges who make law from the bench

A liberal Dem voting for a liberal Dem

 

[maineman]

Of course she agrres with you

Higher taxes

Governemnt run health care

Liberal Judges who make law from the bench

A liberal Dem voting for a liberal Dem

I do not agree with those three issues.

I am a moderate democrat who may have to vote for a more liberal democrat.

You are a supposedly "hardcore conservative" who enthusiastically supports a moderate republican right from the start.

 

[red states rule]

I do not agree with those three issues.

I am a moderate democrat who may have to vote for a more liberal democrat.

You are a supposedly "hardcore conservative" who enthusiastically supports a moderate republican right from the start.

You are a liberal who will vote for the liberal candidate

Nothing new

 

[maineman]

that is incorrect. I am a moderate who will vote for a liberal if asked to chose between a liberal democrat and any of the republicans running.

you are a hack who has abandoned your principles to go with a winner....because winning is what is important to you.

and you would rather run from the failures of this administration and continue to portray everything in a rosy light - and sacrifice even more American troops - in a desperate attempt to hold onto power.

hack. moron. liar. animal hater.

 

[maineman]

RSR:

I am ready willing and able to write a check to your local humane society. Why won't you take me up on it and just find the quote of mine that your referenced if it would mean getting all that help for those poor animals?

I tell you what. If you claim you are not lying. Here is a deal for you:

If you can find one quote of mine where I "admit that I will vote for a candidate that does not agree with ANY of my positions",

I will not only write you - or the humane society of your choice - a check for $1000, I will leave this board and never come back.

If you can't find such a quote, you retract your statement.

Deal?

why ARE you such an animal hater?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

More proof the Dem's are tanking - big time


President's rating mostly stable since start of year; Just 14% give the new Dem Congress a positive rating—nine points below GOP Congress last October


While Bush’s job approval rating has stabilized, opinion of the work Congress is doing continues to plummet. The Zogby poll shows just 14% give Congress positive marks, while 83% give it negative marks – this in the wake of an acrimonious scrimmage over immigration reform that failed to pass muster in the Senate and died, experts have said, until after the 2008 presidential election.

A Zogby Interactive survey in the midst of the wrangling over that bill showed Congress’ job approval rating specifically in its handling of immigration reform stood at just 3%, while Bush’s rating on the same subject stood at 9%.

The Democratic Congress gets poor marks across the ideological spectrum – just 21% of liberals and 10% of the very liberal give it positive marks, while 14% of conservatives and 14% of the very conservative give it positive ratings. Among Democrats, just 19% give Congress positive marks, compared to 13% of Republicans and 8% of political independents.


By way of comparison, the Republican Congress had a 23% positive job approval rating last October, just a week before voters tossed the GOP out of their leadership posts in both houses.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1339

You say "Democratic Congress" as if the Democrats had a big enough majority in the Senate to actually get anything done.

 

[maineman]

More proof the Dem's are tanking - big time


President's rating mostly stable since start of year.

Odd....ABC News and the Washington Post tell a different story:


ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 18-21, 2007. N=1,125 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

Approve 33
Disapprove 65
Unsure 2

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 18-21, 2007. N=1,125 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS. (same poll)

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are doing their job?"

Approve 46
Disapprove 51
Unsure 2

perhaps, when the people really have the opportunity to directly compare and contrast the democrats in congress with the republican in the white house, the Prez comes out with the shit end of the stick!

I wonder how RSR will spin this????

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Odd....ABC News and the Washington Post tell a different story:


ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 18-21, 2007. N=1,125 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

Approve 33
Disapprove 65
Unsure 2

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 18-21, 2007. N=1,125 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS. (same poll)

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are doing their job?"

Approve 46
Disapprove 51
Unsure 2

perhaps, when the people really have the opportunity to directly compare and contrast the democrats in congress with the republican in the white house, the Prez comes out with the shit end of the stick!

I wonder how RSR will spin this????

If 46% approve of the Democrats in Congress and only 14% approve of Congress as a whole - that would lead one to believe most people don't like what Congress is doing but blame the Republicans.

Which means that most people understand the fact that its the Republicans preventing the war in Iraq from ending, not the Democrats.