Zip Tie Guy Might Be Prime Candidate for Exceedingly Rare Sedition Charge, Prosecutors Reveal

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These two are pretty stupid but our media is still more dangerous to the country than they are.
 

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Can you think of another event where you had people conspiring to overthrow the government or to stop the execution of law?

Yes:
  1. The Sugar Act of 1764.
  2. The Currency Acts of 1751 and 1764.
  3. The Stamp Act of 1765.
  4. The Townshend Acts of 1767.
  5. The Tea Act of 1773.
  6. The Coercive Acts of 1774.

Each and every time the unjust autocratic rule of England tightened its grip, those terrible deplorable seditionist insurrectionist American colonialists fought back and rebelled yet more and more. It finally gave us the United States of America--- a nation BUILT upon the precept of revolting against an unjust authority without representation.

History repeats itself again.

It all could be stopped by simply answering the questions proving the election was just, and that Joe Biden really is the lawful winner deserving to be in the White House.




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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
They were going to overthrow the entire federal government with zip ties?
Nobody said they were smart..quite the opposite, i imagine!
Actually I think we're pretty damn lucky they were so inept.
Inept my ass. Antifa and BLM did just what they wanted to do. You of course will blame the Trump protesters just because they are Trump protesters.

Haven't seen any sign of any of those folks being charged with insurrection.

If they were real insurrectionists they would have all been armed and be shooting the shit out of the saintly Capital buildings.
This has nothing to do with antifa or BLM.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
They were going to overthrow the entire federal government with zip ties?
Nobody said they were smart..quite the opposite, i imagine!
Actually I think we're pretty damn lucky they were so inept.
Inept my ass. Antifa and BLM did just what they wanted to do. You of course will blame the Trump protesters just because they are Trump protesters.

Haven't seen any sign of any of those folks being charged with insurrection.

If they were real insurrectionists they would have all been armed and be shooting the shit out of the saintly Capital buildings.
This has nothing to do with antifa or BLM.
Of course it does. They were there. There were escorted in by the Capital Police. In fact I'd bet they are the ones who were the insurrectionists. Not the Trump supporters.
 

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Well this is new...a real sedition charge? A boy and his Mom..bonding over a riot and some heavy weapons...too funny..and yet...this may end their lives as they know them..forever!
AKA'''.play stupid games, win stupid prizes. the govt. appears ready to charge some rioters en masse---make an example of them.


During the course of the whirlwind days when the so-called “zip tie guy” from the U.S. Capitol insurrection was ordered released by one judge on Friday—only to be kept behind bars by another on Sunday—a quiet revelation hitting his case’s docket barely received notice. Federal prosecutors disclosed that more serious charges against Eric Gavelek Munchel may be imminent, including an exceedingly rare sedition charges.

“The evidence amassed so far subjects the defendant to felonies beyond that with which he has been charged so far, including obstructing Congress, interstate travel in furtherance of rioting activity, sedition, and other offenses,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ahmet Baset on Sunday, referring to Munch. “These offenses carry substantial penalties, which incentivizes flight and evading law enforcement—a thought that the defendant already appears to have contemplated by virtue of avoiding his residence and workplace, terminating his Facebook account, and leaving his cell phone with an associate.”

That warning helped persuade Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell, from the District of D.C., to block a magistrate’s order that would have had Munchel await trial inside the home of his second mother.

Munchel’s first mother allegedly rioted with him and brought an enormous stash of weapons to the Capitol—but not inside it.
“We’re going straight to federal prison if we go in there with weapons,” that mother, Lisa Eisenhart, could be heard saying in a video from the siege, according to prosecutors.

Since seditious conspiracy charges require two or more people to oppose the authority of the United States, CNN legal analyst Jennifer Rodgers—a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York—believed Munchel’s machinations with his mother may have helped spark more serious charges against him.

“I think it’s a huge development,” Rodgers told Law&Crime in a phone interview. “If they charge this guy and presumably his mother with seditious conspiracy, then that means they’re open to doing that in other cases, too.”
The recent legal brief seeking Munchel’s continued detention gives a previously undisclosed birds-eye view of the threat authorities faced on Jan. 6.

“In the course of the insurrection, approximately 81 Capitol Police and 58 MPD officers were assaulted, including one Capitol Police officer who died,” prosecutors wrote, abbreviating the name of Washington, D.C.’s Metropolitan Police Department. “Additionally, four citizens died; many media members were assaulted and had cameras and other news gathering equipment destroyed; and the Capitol suffered substantial damage—including broken windows and doors, graffiti, and residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas, and fire extinguishers deployed both by insurgents who stormed the Capitol and by Capitol Police officers trying to restore order.”
Given the 139 assaulted law enforcement officers, and the widespread evidence of coordination, Rodgers predicted that any sedition charges against Munchel would have plenty of company.


“People arrived together on buses and other modes of transportation,” Rodgers added. “We had the Proud Boys there with their orange beanies. We had people in T-shirts that they had made. So there was definitely lots of group activity, so that suggest coordination. And we also know there’s going to be plenty of evidence coming in the form of digital communications between these these people and these groups. So, the fact that they’re willing to go there and to bring us seditious conspiracy charge suggests to me that it’ll just be the first of many such charges they bring.”
Deep six these guys until they have to file an appeal to get toothpaste and shampoo...just like the blob's pre-pubescent detainees on the border
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
You Nazis know everything there is to know about those at the Capitol on 1/6, but we know nothing of the insurrectionists from July who stormed the White House and tried to kill the President of the United States on behalf of the democrat party,

Why is that? Oh, that's right - because we didn't prosecute the insurrectionists from July.

Actions don't matter, only party.

SEIG HEIL, Uber Alles Democrat.
NAZIs or Stalinists? You need to keep your straw men straight, sweetie.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
They were going to overthrow the entire federal government with zip ties?
Nobody said they were smart..quite the opposite, i imagine!
Actually I think we're pretty damn lucky they were so inept.
Inept my ass. Antifa and BLM did just what they wanted to do. You of course will blame the Trump protesters just because they are Trump protesters.

Haven't seen any sign of any of those folks being charged with insurrection.

If they were real insurrectionists they would have all been armed and be shooting the shit out of the saintly Capital buildings.
This has nothing to do with antifa or BLM.
Of course it does. They were there. There were escorted in by the Capital Police. In fact I'd bet they are the ones who were the insurrectionists. Not the Trump supporters.
Crazy conspiracy theories are not helpful.
 

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Well this is new...a real sedition charge? A boy and his Mom..bonding over a riot and some heavy weapons...too funny..and yet...this may end their lives as they know them..forever!
AKA'''.play stupid games, win stupid prizes. the govt. appears ready to charge some rioters en masse---make an example of them.


During the course of the whirlwind days when the so-called “zip tie guy” from the U.S. Capitol insurrection was ordered released by one judge on Friday—only to be kept behind bars by another on Sunday—a quiet revelation hitting his case’s docket barely received notice. Federal prosecutors disclosed that more serious charges against Eric Gavelek Munchel may be imminent, including an exceedingly rare sedition charges.

“The evidence amassed so far subjects the defendant to felonies beyond that with which he has been charged so far, including obstructing Congress, interstate travel in furtherance of rioting activity, sedition, and other offenses,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ahmet Baset on Sunday, referring to Munch. “These offenses carry substantial penalties, which incentivizes flight and evading law enforcement—a thought that the defendant already appears to have contemplated by virtue of avoiding his residence and workplace, terminating his Facebook account, and leaving his cell phone with an associate.”

That warning helped persuade Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell, from the District of D.C., to block a magistrate’s order that would have had Munchel await trial inside the home of his second mother.

Munchel’s first mother allegedly rioted with him and brought an enormous stash of weapons to the Capitol—but not inside it.
“We’re going straight to federal prison if we go in there with weapons,” that mother, Lisa Eisenhart, could be heard saying in a video from the siege, according to prosecutors.

Since seditious conspiracy charges require two or more people to oppose the authority of the United States, CNN legal analyst Jennifer Rodgers—a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York—believed Munchel’s machinations with his mother may have helped spark more serious charges against him.

“I think it’s a huge development,” Rodgers told Law&Crime in a phone interview. “If they charge this guy and presumably his mother with seditious conspiracy, then that means they’re open to doing that in other cases, too.”
The recent legal brief seeking Munchel’s continued detention gives a previously undisclosed birds-eye view of the threat authorities faced on Jan. 6.

“In the course of the insurrection, approximately 81 Capitol Police and 58 MPD officers were assaulted, including one Capitol Police officer who died,” prosecutors wrote, abbreviating the name of Washington, D.C.’s Metropolitan Police Department. “Additionally, four citizens died; many media members were assaulted and had cameras and other news gathering equipment destroyed; and the Capitol suffered substantial damage—including broken windows and doors, graffiti, and residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas, and fire extinguishers deployed both by insurgents who stormed the Capitol and by Capitol Police officers trying to restore order.”
Given the 139 assaulted law enforcement officers, and the widespread evidence of coordination, Rodgers predicted that any sedition charges against Munchel would have plenty of company.


“People arrived together on buses and other modes of transportation,” Rodgers added. “We had the Proud Boys there with their orange beanies. We had people in T-shirts that they had made. So there was definitely lots of group activity, so that suggest coordination. And we also know there’s going to be plenty of evidence coming in the form of digital communications between these these people and these groups. So, the fact that they’re willing to go there and to bring us seditious conspiracy charge suggests to me that it’ll just be the first of many such charges they bring.”
Judge Beryl Howell is another Judge sullivan---laws don't matter only getting the political enemies of the Ayers/obama is..........
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
Doesn’t him bringing his mother kind of shit all over your “violent attempt to overthrow the government” narrative?

smh
No.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
The attemp to overthrow the government was as lame as Trump's dictatorship.

When you lie 24/7 no one takes you seriously
He did not pull either of them off. He's outta here.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
Hey, sexism, sexism!!! The truth is, SHE brought HIM to the riot. Hey, she pays for his housing and food, so she calls the tune. ;)
Typical.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
Doesn’t him bringing his mother kind of shit all over your “violent attempt to overthrow the government” narrative?

smh
No.
You think these guys brought their moms with them?



Get real.
 

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Well this is new...a real sedition charge? A boy and his Mom..bonding over a riot and some heavy weapons...too funny..and yet...this may end their lives as they know them..forever!
AKA'''.play stupid games, win stupid prizes. the govt. appears ready to charge some rioters en masse---make an example of them.


During the course of the whirlwind days when the so-called “zip tie guy” from the U.S. Capitol insurrection was ordered released by one judge on Friday—only to be kept behind bars by another on Sunday—a quiet revelation hitting his case’s docket barely received notice. Federal prosecutors disclosed that more serious charges against Eric Gavelek Munchel may be imminent, including an exceedingly rare sedition charges.

“The evidence amassed so far subjects the defendant to felonies beyond that with which he has been charged so far, including obstructing Congress, interstate travel in furtherance of rioting activity, sedition, and other offenses,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ahmet Baset on Sunday, referring to Munch. “These offenses carry substantial penalties, which incentivizes flight and evading law enforcement—a thought that the defendant already appears to have contemplated by virtue of avoiding his residence and workplace, terminating his Facebook account, and leaving his cell phone with an associate.”

That warning helped persuade Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell, from the District of D.C., to block a magistrate’s order that would have had Munchel await trial inside the home of his second mother.

Munchel’s first mother allegedly rioted with him and brought an enormous stash of weapons to the Capitol—but not inside it.
“We’re going straight to federal prison if we go in there with weapons,” that mother, Lisa Eisenhart, could be heard saying in a video from the siege, according to prosecutors.

Since seditious conspiracy charges require two or more people to oppose the authority of the United States, CNN legal analyst Jennifer Rodgers—a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York—believed Munchel’s machinations with his mother may have helped spark more serious charges against him.

“I think it’s a huge development,” Rodgers told Law&Crime in a phone interview. “If they charge this guy and presumably his mother with seditious conspiracy, then that means they’re open to doing that in other cases, too.”
The recent legal brief seeking Munchel’s continued detention gives a previously undisclosed birds-eye view of the threat authorities faced on Jan. 6.

“In the course of the insurrection, approximately 81 Capitol Police and 58 MPD officers were assaulted, including one Capitol Police officer who died,” prosecutors wrote, abbreviating the name of Washington, D.C.’s Metropolitan Police Department. “Additionally, four citizens died; many media members were assaulted and had cameras and other news gathering equipment destroyed; and the Capitol suffered substantial damage—including broken windows and doors, graffiti, and residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas, and fire extinguishers deployed both by insurgents who stormed the Capitol and by Capitol Police officers trying to restore order.”
Given the 139 assaulted law enforcement officers, and the widespread evidence of coordination, Rodgers predicted that any sedition charges against Munchel would have plenty of company.


“People arrived together on buses and other modes of transportation,” Rodgers added. “We had the Proud Boys there with their orange beanies. We had people in T-shirts that they had made. So there was definitely lots of group activity, so that suggest coordination. And we also know there’s going to be plenty of evidence coming in the form of digital communications between these these people and these groups. So, the fact that they’re willing to go there and to bring us seditious conspiracy charge suggests to me that it’ll just be the first of many such charges they bring.”
He should have broken into some govt. buildings in Portland and the Left would have called him a freedom fighter
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
Doesn’t him bringing his mother kind of shit all over your “violent attempt to overthrow the government” narrative?

smh
No.
You think these guys brought their moms with them?



Get real.
I doubt they were still living with their mom. What does that have to do with anything.
He should not have been storming the Capital Building in the first place, whether still living with his mother and bringing her to the insurrection or not. Now he is up on Federal charges and says he was there because then president trump sent him there. He appears to be right, but that does not justify taking part in insurrection against the government, even if incited by the president. It just isn't right.
 

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I doubt they were still living with their mom. What does that have to do with anything.
He should not have been storming the Capital Building in the first place, whether still living with his mother and bringing her to the insurrection or not. Now he is up on Federal charges and says he was there because then president trump sent him there. He appears to be right, but that does not justify taking part in insurrection against the government, even if incited by the president. It just isn't right.
Your Brown Shirts shouldn't have torn down the White House fence in July and tried to kill the president, but you didn't mind that at all.
 

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I doubt they were still living with their mom. What does that have to do with anything.
He should not have been storming the Capital Building in the first place, whether still living with his mother and bringing her to the insurrection or not. Now he is up on Federal charges and says he was there because then president trump sent him there. He appears to be right, but that does not justify taking part in insurrection against the government, even if incited by the president. It just isn't right.
Your Brown Shirts shouldn't have torn down the White House fence in July and tried to kill the president, but you didn't mind that at all.
Post your link I will read about it.
 

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Well this is new...a real sedition charge? A boy and his Mom..bonding over a riot and some heavy weapons...too funny..and yet...this may end their lives as they know them..forever!
AKA'''.play stupid games, win stupid prizes. the govt. appears ready to charge some rioters en masse---make an example of them.


During the course of the whirlwind days when the so-called “zip tie guy” from the U.S. Capitol insurrection was ordered released by one judge on Friday—only to be kept behind bars by another on Sunday—a quiet revelation hitting his case’s docket barely received notice. Federal prosecutors disclosed that more serious charges against Eric Gavelek Munchel may be imminent, including an exceedingly rare sedition charges.

“The evidence amassed so far subjects the defendant to felonies beyond that with which he has been charged so far, including obstructing Congress, interstate travel in furtherance of rioting activity, sedition, and other offenses,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ahmet Baset on Sunday, referring to Munch. “These offenses carry substantial penalties, which incentivizes flight and evading law enforcement—a thought that the defendant already appears to have contemplated by virtue of avoiding his residence and workplace, terminating his Facebook account, and leaving his cell phone with an associate.”

That warning helped persuade Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell, from the District of D.C., to block a magistrate’s order that would have had Munchel await trial inside the home of his second mother.

Munchel’s first mother allegedly rioted with him and brought an enormous stash of weapons to the Capitol—but not inside it.
“We’re going straight to federal prison if we go in there with weapons,” that mother, Lisa Eisenhart, could be heard saying in a video from the siege, according to prosecutors.

Since seditious conspiracy charges require two or more people to oppose the authority of the United States, CNN legal analyst Jennifer Rodgers—a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York—believed Munchel’s machinations with his mother may have helped spark more serious charges against him.

“I think it’s a huge development,” Rodgers told Law&Crime in a phone interview. “If they charge this guy and presumably his mother with seditious conspiracy, then that means they’re open to doing that in other cases, too.”
The recent legal brief seeking Munchel’s continued detention gives a previously undisclosed birds-eye view of the threat authorities faced on Jan. 6.

“In the course of the insurrection, approximately 81 Capitol Police and 58 MPD officers were assaulted, including one Capitol Police officer who died,” prosecutors wrote, abbreviating the name of Washington, D.C.’s Metropolitan Police Department. “Additionally, four citizens died; many media members were assaulted and had cameras and other news gathering equipment destroyed; and the Capitol suffered substantial damage—including broken windows and doors, graffiti, and residue of various pepper sprays, tear gas, and fire extinguishers deployed both by insurgents who stormed the Capitol and by Capitol Police officers trying to restore order.”
Given the 139 assaulted law enforcement officers, and the widespread evidence of coordination, Rodgers predicted that any sedition charges against Munchel would have plenty of company.


“People arrived together on buses and other modes of transportation,” Rodgers added. “We had the Proud Boys there with their orange beanies. We had people in T-shirts that they had made. So there was definitely lots of group activity, so that suggest coordination. And we also know there’s going to be plenty of evidence coming in the form of digital communications between these these people and these groups. So, the fact that they’re willing to go there and to bring us seditious conspiracy charge suggests to me that it’ll just be the first of many such charges they bring.”
Who ordered the Capitol police to let the Antifa guys through the barricades?
The people that stormed the Capitol were Trump fans who were told they could overturn the election by stopping the Electoral College verification. You should never follow an ignoramus.
 
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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
They were going to overthrow the entire federal government with zip ties?
Nobody said they were smart..quite the opposite, i imagine!
Actually I think we're pretty damn lucky they were so inept.
Inept my ass. Antifa and BLM did just what they wanted to do. You of course will blame the Trump protesters just because they are Trump protesters.

Haven't seen any sign of any of those folks being charged with insurrection.

If they were real insurrectionists they would have all been armed and be shooting the shit out of the saintly Capital buildings.
This has nothing to do with antifa or BLM.
Some have a hard time with the idea that one bad act does not excuse another.
 

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Is that the same guy that brought his mother to the insurrection and was videoed with her a few feet away in the gallery of the Senate? I do not know what the story is there. Does he live in her basement and just could not leave her alone, so he brought her to a violent attempt at overthrowing the government?
They were going to overthrow the entire federal government with zip ties?
I guess you've never seen the hi capacity zip ties.:cool:
Are you in favor of assaulting police officers?
One has to wonder.
 

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