Zionism

[Phoenall]

You have not facts, all you do is spout propaganda.

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Independence is not a factor.

It is when they refused to accept it under International law in 1923.

 

[montelatici]

Why do you just make things up Phoney? There is nothing from 1923 that validates anything you claim. Why continue bullshitting.

 

[Phoenall]

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

Ooppss careful there roodboy... You are letting your guard down... Your paymasters will NOT be happy...

"some of them settled in their holy land"

Only SOME?

Yes as the muslims would only allow so many to settle, just as the British would only allow so many to settle because their arab muslim paymasters told them to stop the Jews

Paymasters Phoenall..........I always thought it was the Brits who had the Cash in those days..You know divide and Rule.....the Brits were the masters at that for sure.steve

Britain was on the verge of bankruptcy after WW2 and could not afford the costs of looking after Palestine. The arab muslims offered them oil at a cut price if they stopped Jewish immigration and ignored arab immigration. The rest is history as they say.

That is bullshit. Why are you constantly bullshitting and making things up. What the heck is the matter with you? You have seen the British, LoN and UN reports that confirm that Arab illegal immigration to Palestine was insignificant. Quit making things up, clown.

Have you heard of LEASE LEND then and how it took the UK until the beginning of this Century to pay it off.

Anglo-American loan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Anglo-American Loan Agreement[1] was a post World War II loan made to the United Kingdom by the United States on 15 July 1946, and paid off in 2006.[2] The loan was negotiated by John Maynard Keynes. The loan was for $3.75 billion (US$57 billion in 2015) at a low 2% interest rate; Canada loaned an additional US$1.19 billion.

The loan was made primarily to support British overseas expenditure in the immediate post-war years and not to implement the Labour government's welfare reforms. British treasury officials believed they could implement the Labour government's domestic reforms without the loan if Britain withdrew from all major overseas commitments.[3] Additionally, Britain's lend-lease balance was written off for $650 million (US$8,515 million in 2015).


England went bankrupt in 1940 the US paid for WW2 - Axis History Forum

England went bankrupt in 1940. The United States then paid for the rest of WW2. The specific date on which this probably occurred was 23 December 1940 when a US warship carried off £50 million worth of gold from Cape Town. A slight delay was then provided by pressuring the governments in exile into "loaning" their gold stockpiles to England (although England knew this could never be repaid). A Belgian "loan" of £60 million was crucial to avoid open default before the US Congress passed the Lend Lease Act on 1 March 1941.





How does it feel to made a fool of by your own words freddy boy.

 

[Phoenall]

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

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All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

Let's see.

Israel has no defined territory or constitution. It is based on ethnic cleansing, killing, and discrimination.

Palestine has a defined territory. It has a constitution guaranteeing equal rights for all including race, religion, sex, etc. It has a "bill of rights" similar to and sometimes more compressive than that of the US.

Palestine's Christian "minority" is extra represented in government, business, culture, and education.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

Mandate of Palestine 1923 sets out the defined territory of the National Home of the Jews.

Who signed of on this defined territory then as all I can find is the defined territory of the Palestinian mandate.

Palestines Christrian minority is being ethnically cleansed by hamas and fatah

 

[Phoenall]

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

I was in favor of a 2-state solution, but it is no longer possible politically besides Netanyahu has stated that there would not be a two-state solution while he is in power, so it is a moot point. It will have to be a one-state solution, a secular, democratic state with equality for people of all religions.

Which would only happen under a Jewish state, read the Palestinian charters that demand the genocide of all the Jews and the destruction of all Jewish artifacts.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ya okay, it says Jews settled all over the Ottoman Empire including Jerusalem and Safeh. You are just having a breakdown because I slapped you with the facts. Don't ask for links if you can't handle the truth.

You have not facts, all you do is spout propaganda.

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

And just were do the arabs come from ?

"Arab" doesn't matter. Religion doesn't matter.
-------------------------
The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

84To qualify for Palestinian nationality by virtue of this paragraph, the person had to be: (1) a Turkish subject, or citizen; and (2) habitually resident in Palestine. While Palestinian nationality in accordance with international law (the Treaty of Lausanne) was created, as shown above, on 6 August 1924, the same nationality was effectively created on 1 August 1925 based on domestic law (the Palestinian Citizenship Order).

 

[montelatici]

Ooppss careful there roodboy... You are letting your guard down... Your paymasters will NOT be happy...

"some of them settled in their holy land"

Only SOME?

Yes as the muslims would only allow so many to settle, just as the British would only allow so many to settle because their arab muslim paymasters told them to stop the Jews

Paymasters Phoenall..........I always thought it was the Brits who had the Cash in those days..You know divide and Rule.....the Brits were the masters at that for sure.steve

Britain was on the verge of bankruptcy after WW2 and could not afford the costs of looking after Palestine. The arab muslims offered them oil at a cut price if they stopped Jewish immigration and ignored arab immigration. The rest is history as they say.

That is bullshit. Why are you constantly bullshitting and making things up. What the heck is the matter with you? You have seen the British, LoN and UN reports that confirm that Arab illegal immigration to Palestine was insignificant. Quit making things up, clown.

Have you heard of LEASE LEND then and how it took the UK until the beginning of this Century to pay it off.

Anglo-American loan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Anglo-American Loan Agreement[1] was a post World War II loan made to the United Kingdom by the United States on 15 July 1946, and paid off in 2006.[2] The loan was negotiated by John Maynard Keynes. The loan was for $3.75 billion (US$57 billion in 2015) at a low 2% interest rate; Canada loaned an additional US$1.19 billion.

The loan was made primarily to support British overseas expenditure in the immediate post-war years and not to implement the Labour government's welfare reforms. British treasury officials believed they could implement the Labour government's domestic reforms without the loan if Britain withdrew from all major overseas commitments.[3] Additionally, Britain's lend-lease balance was written off for $650 million (US$8,515 million in 2015).


England went bankrupt in 1940 the US paid for WW2 - Axis History Forum

England went bankrupt in 1940. The United States then paid for the rest of WW2. The specific date on which this probably occurred was 23 December 1940 when a US warship carried off £50 million worth of gold from Cape Town. A slight delay was then provided by pressuring the governments in exile into "loaning" their gold stockpiles to England (although England knew this could never be repaid). A Belgian "loan" of £60 million was crucial to avoid open default before the US Congress passed the Lend Lease Act on 1 March 1941.





How does it feel to made a fool of by your own words freddy boy.

You are such a bullshitter. What does Lend-Lease have to do with Palestine. I am really laughing out loud, you are incorrigible in the ability to make a fool of yourself, Pastor Jabba.

 

[Phoenall]

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

There 50,000 more Arabs now which is roughly equal based on margin of error, but Arab population growth, even in Israel proper is growing at a higher rate than the Jewish population, notwithstanding the Jew's advantage with immigration.

Israel s Demographic Time Bomb Is a Dud Foreign Policy


There’s only one problem: The numbers just don’t add up. Demography relies on more than just birth rates, and similar predictions have a long history of falling flat. Israeli Jews have a healthy and largely stable demographic majority in Israel and the West Bank, and developments in the coming years may even enhance this trend. The demographic time bomb, in other words, is a dud.

 

[montelatici]

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

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All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

I was in favor of a 2-state solution, but it is no longer possible politically besides Netanyahu has stated that there would not be a two-state solution while he is in power, so it is a moot point. It will have to be a one-state solution, a secular, democratic state with equality for people of all religions.

Which would only happen under a Jewish state, read the Palestinian charters that demand the genocide of all the Jews and the destruction of all Jewish artifacts.

Well, the majority will determine if they what a theocracy or not in a future state. I doubt it could work as a theocracy given that there would be large groups of practitioners of different religions as citizens.

 

[Phoenall]

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

Ooppss careful there roodboy... You are letting your guard down... Your paymasters will NOT be happy...

"some of them settled in their holy land"

Only SOME?

Yes, dirtbag, you asked for a link and I provided it for you. Jews were invited to take refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some settled in "Palestine", while the rest went elsewhere for a variety of reasons. Although, for the last 700 years there was no such thing as Palestine, the Ottomans called It Southern Syria, and here are the estimated numbers of Jews that settled in their holy land.

Now eat shit:

The Spanish Jews were allowed to settle in the wealthier cities of the empire, especially in the European provinces (cities such as: Istanbul, Sarajevo, Salonica, Adrianople and Nicopolis), Western and Northern Anatolia (Bursa, Aydın, Tokat and Amasya), but also in the Mediterranean coastal regions (for example: Jerusalem, Safed, Damascus, Egypt). Izmir was not settled by Spanish Jews until later. The Jewish population at Jerusalem increased from 70 families in 1488 to 1,500 at the beginning of the 16th century. That of Safed increased from 300 to 2,000 families and almost surpassed Jerusalem in importance. Damascus had a Sephardic congregation of 500 families.

HAHAHA... Stop it you are scaring me!!

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It is hilarious to watch Phoney project as he goes into meltdown mode. He is known for it, not just here.

DATA MINING again freddy, you do know it is not allowed on here.

 

[Phoenall]

Why do you just make things up Phoney? There is nothing from 1923 that validates anything you claim. Why continue bullshitting.

Mandate for Palestine granted the land to the Jews, at the same time it gave 78% to a minor arab prince and called it trans Jordan.


Are you saying that the UN archives are wrong now freddy boy ?

 

[Phoenall]

You have not facts, all you do is spout propaganda.

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

And just were do the arabs come from ?

"Arab" doesn't matter. Religion doesn't matter.
-------------------------
The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

84To qualify for Palestinian nationality by virtue of this paragraph, the person had to be: (1) a Turkish subject, or citizen; and (2) habitually resident in Palestine. While Palestinian nationality in accordance with international law (the Treaty of Lausanne) was created, as shown above, on 6 August 1924, the same nationality was effectively created on 1 August 1925 based on domestic law (the Palestinian Citizenship Order).

YEP mandate for Palestine citizens, later becoming British mandate of Palestine cirizens. There was never a Palestinian nation until 1988.

 

[Phoenall]

Yes as the muslims would only allow so many to settle, just as the British would only allow so many to settle because their arab muslim paymasters told them to stop the Jews

Paymasters Phoenall..........I always thought it was the Brits who had the Cash in those days..You know divide and Rule.....the Brits were the masters at that for sure.steve

Britain was on the verge of bankruptcy after WW2 and could not afford the costs of looking after Palestine. The arab muslims offered them oil at a cut price if they stopped Jewish immigration and ignored arab immigration. The rest is history as they say.

That is bullshit. Why are you constantly bullshitting and making things up. What the heck is the matter with you? You have seen the British, LoN and UN reports that confirm that Arab illegal immigration to Palestine was insignificant. Quit making things up, clown.

Have you heard of LEASE LEND then and how it took the UK until the beginning of this Century to pay it off.

Anglo-American loan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Anglo-American Loan Agreement[1] was a post World War II loan made to the United Kingdom by the United States on 15 July 1946, and paid off in 2006.[2] The loan was negotiated by John Maynard Keynes. The loan was for $3.75 billion (US$57 billion in 2015) at a low 2% interest rate; Canada loaned an additional US$1.19 billion.

The loan was made primarily to support British overseas expenditure in the immediate post-war years and not to implement the Labour government's welfare reforms. British treasury officials believed they could implement the Labour government's domestic reforms without the loan if Britain withdrew from all major overseas commitments.[3] Additionally, Britain's lend-lease balance was written off for $650 million (US$8,515 million in 2015).


England went bankrupt in 1940 the US paid for WW2 - Axis History Forum

England went bankrupt in 1940. The United States then paid for the rest of WW2. The specific date on which this probably occurred was 23 December 1940 when a US warship carried off £50 million worth of gold from Cape Town. A slight delay was then provided by pressuring the governments in exile into "loaning" their gold stockpiles to England (although England knew this could never be repaid). A Belgian "loan" of £60 million was crucial to avoid open default before the US Congress passed the Lend Lease Act on 1 March 1941.





How does it feel to made a fool of by your own words freddy boy.

You are such a bullshitter. What does Lend-Lease have to do with Palestine. I am really laughing out loud, you are incorrigible in the ability to make a fool of yourself, Pastor Jabba.

It shows that the UK was bankrupt and could not afford to police Palestine, the arab oil sheiks offered cut price oil in return for arab muslim migration to Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

I was in favor of a 2-state solution, but it is no longer possible politically besides Netanyahu has stated that there would not be a two-state solution while he is in power, so it is a moot point. It will have to be a one-state solution, a secular, democratic state with equality for people of all religions.

Which would only happen under a Jewish state, read the Palestinian charters that demand the genocide of all the Jews and the destruction of all Jewish artifacts.

Well, the majority will determine if they what a theocracy or not in a future state. I doubt it could work as a theocracy given that there would be large groups of practitioners of different religions as citizens.

So a one state solution wont work either, unless the arab's murder all the Jews and Christians, which is in their charters.

 

[montelatici]

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

There 50,000 more Arabs now which is roughly equal based on margin of error, but Arab population growth, even in Israel proper is growing at a higher rate than the Jewish population, notwithstanding the Jew's advantage with immigration.

Israel s Demographic Time Bomb Is a Dud Foreign Policy


There’s only one problem: The numbers just don’t add up. Demography relies on more than just birth rates, and similar predictions have a long history of falling flat. Israeli Jews have a healthy and largely stable demographic majority in Israel and the West Bank, and developments in the coming years may even enhance this trend. The demographic time bomb, in other words, is a dud.

Well, posting propaganda

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

There are about an equal number of Jews and Arabs (if you count the territories). By the way, monte, are you in favor of a 2-state solution? Or one state? If one state, would it be Israel or Palestine?

Let's see.

Israel has no defined territory or constitution. It is based on ethnic cleansing, killing, and discrimination.

Palestine has a defined territory. It has a constitution guaranteeing equal rights for all including race, religion, sex, etc. It has a "bill of rights" similar to and sometimes more compressive than that of the US.

Palestine's Christian "minority" is extra represented in government, business, culture, and education.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

Mandate of Palestine 1923 sets out the defined territory of the National Home of the Jews.

Who signed of on this defined territory then as all I can find is the defined territory of the Palestinian mandate.

Palestines Christrian minority is being ethnically cleansed by hamas and fatah

National home did not mean a Jewish where Jews ruled non-Jews, state as confirmed to the Zionists by the British on more than one occasion, just as the one below:

""Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English. His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab delegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded in Palestine.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[montelatici]

Paymasters Phoenall..........I always thought it was the Brits who had the Cash in those days..You know divide and Rule.....the Brits were the masters at that for sure.steve

Britain was on the verge of bankruptcy after WW2 and could not afford the costs of looking after Palestine. The arab muslims offered them oil at a cut price if they stopped Jewish immigration and ignored arab immigration. The rest is history as they say.

That is bullshit. Why are you constantly bullshitting and making things up. What the heck is the matter with you? You have seen the British, LoN and UN reports that confirm that Arab illegal immigration to Palestine was insignificant. Quit making things up, clown.

Have you heard of LEASE LEND then and how it took the UK until the beginning of this Century to pay it off.

Anglo-American loan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Anglo-American Loan Agreement[1] was a post World War II loan made to the United Kingdom by the United States on 15 July 1946, and paid off in 2006.[2] The loan was negotiated by John Maynard Keynes. The loan was for $3.75 billion (US$57 billion in 2015) at a low 2% interest rate; Canada loaned an additional US$1.19 billion.

The loan was made primarily to support British overseas expenditure in the immediate post-war years and not to implement the Labour government's welfare reforms. British treasury officials believed they could implement the Labour government's domestic reforms without the loan if Britain withdrew from all major overseas commitments.[3] Additionally, Britain's lend-lease balance was written off for $650 million (US$8,515 million in 2015).


England went bankrupt in 1940 the US paid for WW2 - Axis History Forum

England went bankrupt in 1940. The United States then paid for the rest of WW2. The specific date on which this probably occurred was 23 December 1940 when a US warship carried off £50 million worth of gold from Cape Town. A slight delay was then provided by pressuring the governments in exile into "loaning" their gold stockpiles to England (although England knew this could never be repaid). A Belgian "loan" of £60 million was crucial to avoid open default before the US Congress passed the Lend Lease Act on 1 March 1941.





How does it feel to made a fool of by your own words freddy boy.

You are such a bullshitter. What does Lend-Lease have to do with Palestine. I am really laughing out loud, you are incorrigible in the ability to make a fool of yourself, Pastor Jabba.

It shows that the UK was bankrupt and could not afford to police Palestine, the arab oil sheiks offered cut price oil in return for arab muslim migration to Palestine.

Let's see this treaty by which the UK allowed Arab's to immigrate and got oil at lower prices. You do have a vivid imagination Phoney, have to give you that. Your bullshitting is truly magnificent.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

And just were do the arabs come from ?

"Arab" doesn't matter. Religion doesn't matter.
-------------------------
The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

84To qualify for Palestinian nationality by virtue of this paragraph, the person had to be: (1) a Turkish subject, or citizen; and (2) habitually resident in Palestine. While Palestinian nationality in accordance with international law (the Treaty of Lausanne) was created, as shown above, on 6 August 1924, the same nationality was effectively created on 1 August 1925 based on domestic law (the Palestinian Citizenship Order).

YEP mandate for Palestine citizens, later becoming British mandate of Palestine cirizens. There was never a Palestinian nation until 1988.

You are sooooo full of shit.
-------------
With regard to nationality of the inhabitants of mandated territories, in general, the Council of the League of Nations adopted the following resolution on 23 April 1923:

“(1) The status of the native inhabitants of a Mandated territory is distinct from that of the nationals of the Mandatory Power....
(2) The native inhabitants of a Mandated territory are not invested with the nationality of the Mandatory Power by means of the protection extended to them…”92​

http://bcrfj.revues.org/6405#ftn92

 

[Phoenall]

You have not facts, all you do is spout propaganda.

Facts are Jews took refuge in the Ottoman Empire and some of them settled in their holy land. Those facts are corroborated through other official sources. Now go fix your turntables, you nazi orangutang.

No Roudy THEY INVADED AS ILLEGAL...IMMIGRANTS get it right...steve

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions Alien Immigrant Illegal Alien Undocumented Immigrant

All of us on this Board (with the exception of Ringel, who is an American Indian) are descended from immigrants. The Jews, from both Europe and the Middle East, were legal immigrants. And an independent "country" of Palestine did not exist at that time, so the matter of allegiance was irrelevant.

Europeans invaded a country with the intent to colonize it from another continent and evicted the rightful inhabitants. Now, the indigenous people want their land back and they have become the majority (and growing) in the lands controlled by Jews. Colonial projects that are unable to achieve a majority position population-wise have not been successful in the past and there is no reason to believe that it will be successful in Israel's case.

Then how come they are still there and growing in numbers. The evidence now shows that inside Israel the arab muslims are in decline and will soon be extinct. The indigenous people happen to be the Jews who where forcibly evicted over the years.

 

[montelatici]

Why do you just make things up Phoney? There is nothing from 1923 that validates anything you claim. Why continue bullshitting.

Mandate for Palestine granted the land to the Jews, at the same time it gave 78% to a minor arab prince and called it trans Jordan.


Are you saying that the UN archives are wrong now freddy boy ?

Let's read this again from 1922 no less:

"77. As far as the mandatory Power is concerned, the statement65/ of British policy in Palestine which was issued in June 1922 by Mr. Winston Churchill, then Secretary of State for the Colonies, has remained the authoritative interpretation.66/ The following excerpts express the substance of the statement:

"Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English. His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab delegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded in Palestine."

A 364 of 3 September 1947

STOP BULLSHITTING Phoney.

 

[Roudy]

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Yes definitely a meltdown in progress

Yup. Hides behind this stupid gif when having a hissyfit. Ha ha ha.

Oddly enough my "stupid gif" comes into play when retards like you and Phoney refuse to accept what is front of your eyes...

That zionist brainwashing is a pretty powerful thing!

Oddly enough you are lame and unoriginal and every time you use that gif it's a sign of desperation and you are actually admitting to being defeated.

That Palestinian Nazi brainwashing is a powerful thing!

HAHAHAHA....

Ok Mr Originality with your made up flag that you post at least 50 times a week!

Nah you're just whining 'cause you can't face the truth that many Jews had already been there by the invitation of the Ottoman ruler in the 1400's.