Zeppelin versus Sabbath?

[random3434]

Personally, I'd live quite happily never hearing either one of them again.

Then who do you listen to?

 

[random3434]

I love Zep, they rock or can be melodic on their acoustic songs like this:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO5vciT-0Jw]YouTube - Led Zeppelin - "Going To California" live @ Earl's Court '75[/ame]


Check out their stuff from "Earl's Court"

 

[Dr Grump]

Which consensus is that?

Led Zep 300 million albums

Black Sabbath 100 million.

Also, a tonne of BS stuff is just utter crap. Hardly any skill in it at all.

 

[eots]

ozzy is all working class brit..and is so cool that he more of a americian icon than a brit but plant has the whole.. all upper classy .. twity.. britisy.. gay thing going on

 

[editec]

I'm no musician but... Sabbath?

Come on..get real.

 

[Steerpike]

Led Zep 300 million albums

Black Sabbath 100 million.

Also, a tonne of BS stuff is just utter crap. Hardly any skill in it at all.

I think we're talking about who is more influential for current metal bands, not who sold the most. Clearly it's Sabbath.

 

[Steerpike]

From Wikipedia FWIW (contains a cite to Rolling Stone):

"With more than 100 million albums sold worldwide,[2] Black Sabbath is arguably the most influential heavy metal band of all time. The band helped to create the genre with ground breaking releases such as Paranoid, an album that Rolling Stone magazine said "changed music forever", [95] and called the band "the Beatles of heavy metal".[96]"

 

[Dr Grump]

I think we're talking about who is more influential for current metal bands, not who sold the most. Clearly it's Sabbath.

I'd say Deep Purple were more influential as far as the metal genre goes. Led Zep were more blues influenced...

 

[Steerpike]

I'd say Deep Purple were more influential as far as the metal genre goes. Led Zep were more blues influenced...

I disagree. Deep Purple had a bigger influence on late 70s and 80s metal most likely, although I'm not even certain that's the case. But on the genre overall Black Sabbath has had more influence. I can't think of another band that actually spawned an entire sub-genre of metal. And from the early 1990s through now you'll find a lot more influence of Black Sabbath in the metal acts around that you will with Deep Purple, though Ritchie Blackmore, as a guitarist, has had wide influence.

 

[matty]

I'd say Deep Purple were more influential as far as the metal genre goes. Led Zep were more blues influenced...

Never have I thought blues when listenin' to Led...

I love Led.

 

[matty]

I can't tell you how much that means coming from a chick with a Menudo poster in her bedroom.

 

[matty]

I think we're talking about who is more influential for current metal bands, not who sold the most. Clearly it's Sabbath.

 

[Steerpike]

Hey Matty. Nice to see you.

I'm still waiting for someone to take me up on a list of the newer metal bands with a clear Zeppelin influence

 

[Dr Grump]

Never thought of Zep as metal....not many that i know of do...

 

[Steerpike]

Never thought of Zep as metal....not many that i know of do...

They're typically included if you look at the history of metal, etc., though I don't think they have many songs that would qualify.

 

[Dr Grump]

They're typically included if you look at the history of metal, etc., though I don't think they have many songs that would qualify.

I concur about the qualification aspect....

Immigrant song? Nah, Whole Lotta Love? Nah, Going to California? Nah, Kashmir? Nah, Ramble On? Nah...

Black Dog? Maybe...

 

[Steerpike]

What is and What Should Never Be? Maybe? Not really metal. Was a great band though. Parts of No Quarter may qualify...

 

[random3434]

I concur about the qualification aspect....

Immigrant song? Nah, Whole Lotta Love? Nah, Going to California? Nah, Kashmir? Nah, Ramble On? Nah...

Black Dog? Maybe...

I think most Zeppelin fans see them as rock, not metal. (I do at least)

When I think of metal, I think of Spinal Tap.

 

[manifold]

U2 are Ok in my book...

...a tonne of Black Sabbath stuff is just utter crap. Hardly any skill in it at all.

btw: Geezer Butler's bass lines (And Ward's percussion) are considerably more involved than anything from whoever those two assclowns are that keep time for Bono.

 

[manifold]

Why is it that hard rock & heavy metal acts get criticized for simple song composition far more than acts from other genres? I've never heard anyone say, "That Bob Dylan stuff is simplistic crap. Hardly any skill in those two chords at all!"