Youtube Being Censored, We Can't Question the Government on Youtube

[ChrisL]

You mean regardless what the content of this and similar message boards claim?

"Three million Amish mobilize to vote for Rump" --- read that here.
"Hillary a no-show at rally, replaced by hologram" --- read that here.
"Hillary has Parkinson's" --- read that here.
"Hillary has dementia" --- read that here.
"Hillary has cancer" --- read that here.
"Clintons kill FBI agent" --- read that here.
"Bill Clinton's secret black son" --- read that here.

Etc etc etc etc etc.....

This is not really anything different than what our candidates say about one another OR anything that was or is said about Trump.

I must say I've watched a lot of political campaigns and have yet to see anything like a candy claiming "my opponent didn't show up and was replaced by a hologram".

Well, I heard nothing about that, and I can tell you that no Russians or Pogos can influence me or my decisions when it comes to important elections.

Pogos could influence me, whatever they want, it seems I impulsively want the opposite. Unless it's music.

Thank your lucky stars that there's only one of me. Ah am yew-neek.

 

[ChrisL]

Don't want to get into specifics, but SEVERAL of our rules are based on their demands.

Del is close.. But those Russian bride or Hot Russians want to date you ads ---- are DESIGNED for the 2 of us by our "Google preference files" from Google spying. Something the 2 of us have in common... Can't talk about "those days" undercovers in Moscow...

I always thought the ads here were just random. I don't see ads any more because of ad blocker but I used to get ads for things I've never looked at or searched for. All KINDS of weird ads would pop up here, which slows down the site when you are trying to navigate. Life is SO much better without ads!

Go tell that to the Dem minority in Congress. They think $30,000 of Russian Troll ads is a freaking national crisis.

I can still fondly remember the days when Conservatives actually cared when Russia tried to harm the United States.

Really though? Fondly? I doubt you've ever felt that way towards a conservative for any reason. Lol. And if it WAS conservatives saying such things, you would laugh it off and call them paranoid. Let's be honest.

if you spoke english, you'd know that fondly is modifying days in that sentence, not conservatives.

Remembering fondly about conservatives would be him associating them with "fond" memories.

 

[ChrisL]

Don't want to get into specifics, but SEVERAL of our rules are based on their demands.

Del is close.. But those Russian bride or Hot Russians want to date you ads ---- are DESIGNED for the 2 of us by our "Google preference files" from Google spying. Something the 2 of us have in common... Can't talk about "those days" undercovers in Moscow...

I always thought the ads here were just random. I don't see ads any more because of ad blocker but I used to get ads for things I've never looked at or searched for. All KINDS of weird ads would pop up here, which slows down the site when you are trying to navigate. Life is SO much better without ads!

Go tell that to the Dem minority in Congress. They think $30,000 of Russian Troll ads is a freaking national crisis.

I can still fondly remember the days when Conservatives actually cared when Russia tried to harm the United States.

Really though? Fondly? I doubt you've ever felt that way towards a conservative for any reason. Lol. And if it WAS conservatives saying such things, you would laugh it off and call them paranoid. Let's be honest.

if you spoke english, you'd know that fondly is modifying days in that sentence, not conservatives.

If I spoke English? Obviously I speak English, dummy. Lol! That was super dumb.

 

[ChrisL]

You can use Vimeo for music videos. I don't know if they have any other types of videos though.

Vimeo is a profit based platform


For politics, it seems to all be going to either Steemit or Bitchute.

What do you mean profit based? Aren't they all profit based? That is why they have ads and sponsors. Anyhow, you can go on Vimeo and search and post videos just like you can on YouTube, I think, and that's really the only thing I use YouTube for. Let's see.

No. Steemit and Bitchute have no ads. They are user supported though Paypal, Patreon and Bitcoin, etc.

Interesting. Well, Zimeo is free and I don't see the ads because of ad blocker. I don't post anything on YouTube or anything, so I don't need to worry about these types of things TOO much. I don't even sign in. I just decided to try using another site if YouTube is going to be making such rules of what we can and cannot watch on their site.

 

[ChrisL]

Really though? Fondly? I doubt you've ever felt that way towards a conservative for any reason. Lol. And if it WAS conservatives saying such things, you would laugh it off and call them paranoid. Let's be honest.

Actually I have quite a few conservative friends- actual conservatives- who are actually concerned by what Russia is doing.

And I am old enough to remember when Conservatives couldn't stop talking about the dangerous Russkies- now the Trump Conservatards want to talk about anything but how the Russians tried to influence our election.

Flacal tries to make a big deal out of how the number of American intelligence agencies was blown up- but conveniently ignores that the 3 intelligence agencies actually responsible for investigating Russian interference all concluded that the Russians did try to influence our election.

Nobody thinks it's a big deal except agenda driven liberals. You people have been screaming and crying incessantly since Hillary lost the election. She lost because she was a terrible candidate.

See here is where you just are vomiting back the Trump fake news.

I never once mentioned Hillary. I never once claimed that Russian interference cost her the election- you are just parroting Trump's claims.

What I am pointing out is that Russia absolutely tried to influence the election- for their own purposes. And President Trump has spent the last year denying this.

And you are okay with both Trump's lies- and Russia's attack on our Democracy.

Pretty much anything you say about Trump or any conservative politician can easily be turned around on you to describe your own horrid candidate. In fact, he was the BETTER candidate because he addressed issues and didn't stick with a social justice agenda. You liberals need to get your priorities straight.

Oh PLEASE. Rump was the world class clown candidate. He sold "feelings", which is exactly the same thing he told his fraudulent university to do --- "you don't sell products, benefits or solutions; you sell FEELINGS". "Feelings" like Mexican rapists jumping over a fence so we'll build a wall and they'll pay for it. "Feelings" like "umma ban Muslims until we figure out what the hell is going on". "Feelings" like "knock the crap out of 'im".

It was a sale sold by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing of any substance. Pure snake oil. And anyone who bought that line of con artistry is a freaking dolt.

Is that all you heard in his speeches? Not me. I heard a lot of things that he was going to do for us Americans for a change. That was very heartening. I don't really care much about Mexicans and Muslims, goddammit! When are you liberals going to realize this? I care about my fellow Americans and America, making my country a better and more prosperous nation is what is important to me for the future of my child and his children and their children and so on. Not turning it into a third world nation because of my "feels." You are a VERY confused individual, IMO.

 

[Pogo]

Actually I have quite a few conservative friends- actual conservatives- who are actually concerned by what Russia is doing.

And I am old enough to remember when Conservatives couldn't stop talking about the dangerous Russkies- now the Trump Conservatards want to talk about anything but how the Russians tried to influence our election.

Flacal tries to make a big deal out of how the number of American intelligence agencies was blown up- but conveniently ignores that the 3 intelligence agencies actually responsible for investigating Russian interference all concluded that the Russians did try to influence our election.

Nobody thinks it's a big deal except agenda driven liberals. You people have been screaming and crying incessantly since Hillary lost the election. She lost because she was a terrible candidate.

See here is where you just are vomiting back the Trump fake news.

I never once mentioned Hillary. I never once claimed that Russian interference cost her the election- you are just parroting Trump's claims.

What I am pointing out is that Russia absolutely tried to influence the election- for their own purposes. And President Trump has spent the last year denying this.

And you are okay with both Trump's lies- and Russia's attack on our Democracy.

Pretty much anything you say about Trump or any conservative politician can easily be turned around on you to describe your own horrid candidate. In fact, he was the BETTER candidate because he addressed issues and didn't stick with a social justice agenda. You liberals need to get your priorities straight.

Oh PLEASE. Rump was the world class clown candidate. He sold "feelings", which is exactly the same thing he told his fraudulent university to do --- "you don't sell products, benefits or solutions; you sell FEELINGS". "Feelings" like Mexican rapists jumping over a fence so we'll build a wall and they'll pay for it. "Feelings" like "umma ban Muslims until we figure out what the hell is going on". "Feelings" like "knock the crap out of 'im".

It was a sale sold by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing of any substance. Pure snake oil. And anyone who bought that line of con artistry is a freaking dolt.

Is that all you heard in his speeches? Not me. I heard a lot of things that he was going to do for us Americans for a change. That was very heartening. I don't really care much about Mexicans and Muslims, goddammit! When are you liberals going to realize this? I care about my fellow Americans and America, making my country a better and more prosperous nation is what is important to me for the future of my child and his children and their children and so on. Not turning it into a third world nation because of my "feels." You are a VERY confused individual, IMO.

On the contrary I've pegged this con artist bullshitter for exactly what he is since he first popped up with the con artist bullshittery. Transparent as a pane of orange-tinted glass.

Just as I pegged the winner of the Super Bowl before it happened.

Eventually you'll figure out, I've got my finger on the pulse all the time. Your best bet is to just read what I write, and repeat it. Your friends will be amazed at how schmart you got. Not to worry, I won't betray your secret.

 

[Syriusly]

Actually I have quite a few conservative friends- actual conservatives- who are actually concerned by what Russia is doing.

And I am old enough to remember when Conservatives couldn't stop talking about the dangerous Russkies- now the Trump Conservatards want to talk about anything but how the Russians tried to influence our election.

Flacal tries to make a big deal out of how the number of American intelligence agencies was blown up- but conveniently ignores that the 3 intelligence agencies actually responsible for investigating Russian interference all concluded that the Russians did try to influence our election.

Nobody thinks it's a big deal except agenda driven liberals. You people have been screaming and crying incessantly since Hillary lost the election. She lost because she was a terrible candidate.

See here is where you just are vomiting back the Trump fake news.

I never once mentioned Hillary. I never once claimed that Russian interference cost her the election- you are just parroting Trump's claims.

What I am pointing out is that Russia absolutely tried to influence the election- for their own purposes. And President Trump has spent the last year denying this.

And you are okay with both Trump's lies- and Russia's attack on our Democracy.

Pretty much anything you say about Trump or any conservative politician can easily be turned around on you to describe your own horrid candidate. In fact, he was the BETTER candidate because he addressed issues and didn't stick with a social justice agenda. You liberals need to get your priorities straight.

Oh PLEASE. Rump was the world class clown candidate. He sold "feelings", which is exactly the same thing he told his fraudulent university to do --- "you don't sell products, benefits or solutions; you sell FEELINGS". "Feelings" like Mexican rapists jumping over a fence so we'll build a wall and they'll pay for it. "Feelings" like "umma ban Muslims until we figure out what the hell is going on". "Feelings" like "knock the crap out of 'im".

It was a sale sold by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing of any substance. Pure snake oil. And anyone who bought that line of con artistry is a freaking dolt.

Is that all you heard in his speeches? Not me. I heard a lot of things that he was going to do for us Americans for a change. That was very heartening. I don't really care much about Mexicans and Muslims, goddammit! When are you liberals going to realize this? I care about my fellow Americans and America, making my country a better and more prosperous nation is what is important to me for the future of my child and his children and their children and so on. Not turning it into a third world nation because of my "feels." You are a VERY confused individual, IMO.

Why aren't Muslims in America- Americans to you?

Why isn't a judge born in the Midwest of Mexican ancestry- an American to you?

Because it sounds like you care about your 'fellow Americans' like Trump does- if they have the right ancestry, skin color or religion.

 

[Syriusly]

You mean I cut off the part where you were pulling crap out of your ass and calling it gold?

You called me a socialist- because I disagreed with you- like the majority of economists- regarding FDR.

And that- that is not only intellectually dishonest- it is just down right idiotic.

'Economists' is merely an appeal to authority fallacy with no citations to back it up. Only Keynsian economists agree with FDR, and they're frauds.

You cite a total of 2 or 3 economists- that is your appeal to authority fallacy.

Your description of FDR causing the Great Depression is just your appeal to idiocy.

You asked her and she provided the links for you.

Yes indeed- she provided 2 links- one to one economist- and one to a paper authoried by 2 economists- I have read them before because we have had this discussion before.

That was his/her/its appeal to authority fallacy.

None of those economists claim that FDR 'caused' the Great Depression- as Pumpkin has claimed- they claim that his policies exacerbated it.

Most economists disagree. There is no way for us to definitively know now- we do know that FDR became President after the Great Depression started- and it was over before he died while still President.

I strongly suggest you read more about the events leading up to FDR's election- the United States was on the verge of anarchy- farmers had already taken action in a few places in the United States shutting down cities due to the crisis. In my opinion- based upon both my reading of history- and based upon the opinions of other economists- FDR both prevented a possible collapse of government in the Midwest- but also ended the Great Depression.

I've seen you post no authoritative links to sources contrary to what she's posted. All I've seen from you is that she's using an 'appeal to authority fallacy'.

I was mocking her 'appeal to authority fallacy' when I pointed out that the majority of economists disagree with her position.

She cited two papers. I posted the link to Wikipedia that provides both sides of the argument with the citations associated.

She argues that FDR was responsible for the Great Depression. Not one of her citations makes that argument- because it is patently absurd- since the Great Depression started before FDR was elected.

 

[Syriusly]

In reality, my exposure to Google is much larger than most. Because my electronic product design biz has suffered thru a NUMBER of Android developments for our customers. Experience with Google micromanaging their development tools and developers convinced me to tell everyone here we're not doing Android ANYTHING ever again. They'd change the rules and tools MONTHLY.. Not giving a damn about developers on their platforms.

THEN -- there's the matter of website advertising. Reason for a LOT of USMB "free speech" restraint is because of Google MONITORING the "quality" of this site and all others that Google serves ads to... They have 80% of the web by the "short and curlies"...

While THEY index porn, violence, and all KINDS of offensive material -- they DENY the rights of ad clients...

Slow down.

You are going WAY over the Democrat posters’ heads with this stuff.

The same retards who believe it is somehow illegal for Christian private companies to deny service to gays and have now forced the Christian companies to appeal to the Supreme Court now want to claim google is a private company that can do what it wants.

The same dipshits who claim to hate monopolies and claim to support anti-trust laws support the biggest monopolies in human history.

WAY over their heads.

Slow down.

You are going way over the head of Republican posters heads with this stuff.

The same retards who think that Christian private companies don't have to follow the law when it comes to gays now want to claim that Google and Youtube are violating "Free Speech" and shouldn't be able to censor their own content.....

The same dipshits who claim to be for business's being able to do as they please until of course....well they 'censor' their loony Konspiracy Klaims.

Way over their heads.

You are the one promoting the double standard, dipshit.

If Google can do whatever the hell it wants because it is a private company, then EVERY private company has the same right.

You also failed to counter my point about monopolies. Google is the biggest monopoly in human history.

I can't say whether Google is the biggest monopoly in human history, nor have I said that Google can do whatever the hell it wants because it is a private business- Google is subject to the law just like every other business.

As I have said several times- I am fine with Google being investigated for Anti-Trust violations.

 

[Syriusly]

It is an attack on free speech, leftard idiots think it's great but they won't when it comes for them too.

Why are you against the free speech of Youtube?

Why are you against capitalism?

Why are you against a business determining how it will run its business?

Does this mean you now believe that bakers can refuse to decorate a cake based on their 1st Amendment rights?

I believe that every business should follow the law.

If Youtube was violating the law- say by refusing to post video's that contained images of African Americans or Jews- or Christian weddings- then they would be violating the same type of law that the Bakers are violating.

I feel the same way about anti-trust laws- business's need to follow the law.

As long as a business follows the law- then it should be allowed to do what it will.

 

[Syriusly]

but Pumpkin girl argues that somehow FDR went back in a time machine and started the Great Depression.

You lie!

Show us where she said that.

YOUR credibility is at stake.

Pumpkin claimed twice that FDR 'caused' the Great Depression

Quoting her:

You did not believe that his Socialist policies created and extended the Great Depression

Before FDR took office, what we had was a minor recession, FDR took over and turned it into a Great Depression,

When did the Great Depression start?
First of all- it is important to realize that the Great Depression was world wide- it actually started outside the United States.

The Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic depression that took place mostly during the 1930s, originating in the United States.[dubious – discuss][unbalanced opinion?] The timing of the Great Depression varied across nations; in most countries it started in 1929 and lasted until 1941.[1] It was the longest, deepest, and most widespread depression of the 20th century

What is the definition of economic 'Depression'?

One is:

1. a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or
2. a recession lasting 2 or more years.

FDR was elected in 1933- 4 years into the 'recession'- which means 2 years into the Great Depression.

The only way FDR could have 'caused' the Great Depression was if he hopped in a Time Machine and somehow became President instead of Hoover.

 

[dblack]

If Youtube was violating the law- say by refusing to post video's that contained images of African Americans or Jews- or Christian weddings- then they would be violating the same type of law that the Bakers are violating.

Special rights for special people.

 

[Syriusly]

But I think we should find out- because I really don't want Russia being able think it can get away with turning enough votes to change America's election results.

That belief of yours has long been discredited. Time to give it up.
I
The ONLY collusion with Russia was with the Democrats

Yeah- that is the propaganda that Trump is trying to sell, and his gullible idiots lap up.

 

[Syriusly]

Still waiting for you to have the balls to try to stand up to your claims:
a) That I am a socialist
b) That I don't understand economics or business or
c) That you do.

Because as I pointed out before- so far all you are doing is pulling crap out of your ass and calling it gold.

Or you can just admit you were lying.

I already did. You cut off, like, most of my post. If you're going to be that intellectually dishonest, and THAT obvious about it, replies to you are a waste of time.

You mean I cut off the part where you were pulling crap out of your ass and calling it gold?

You called me a socialist- because I disagreed with you- like the majority of economists- regarding FDR.

And that- that is not only intellectually dishonest- it is just down right idiotic.

I called you a socialist because you agree with FDR's policies, which are Socialist and factually did not work, because Socialism does not work. He extended the Great Depression by many years..

Like I said- you called me a socialist because I disagreed with you.

I agree with some of FDR's policies and not with others.

To you that makes me a Socialist.

And you calling me a Socialist makes it clear to you me that you are just another partisan idiot.

Agreeing with FDR's policies makes you a Socialist, yes. I made that much clear already.

I agree with some of FDR's policies and not with others.

To you that makes me a Socialist.

And you calling me a Socialist makes it clear that you are just another partisan idiot and a liar.

 

[Syriusly]

"They tell US at USMB what content we can't allow if we want their ad service."


flacaltenn can you give examples of what you'd like to allow, but are unable to allow, due to restrictions imposed by google..?

Don't want to get into specifics, but SEVERAL of our rules are based on their demands.

Del is close.. But those Russian bride or Hot Russians want to date you ads ---- are DESIGNED for the 2 of us by our "Google preference files" from Google spying. Something the 2 of us have in common... Can't talk about "those days" undercovers in Moscow...

I always thought the ads here were just random. I don't see ads any more because of ad blocker but I used to get ads for things I've never looked at or searched for. All KINDS of weird ads would pop up here, which slows down the site when you are trying to navigate. Life is SO much better without ads!

Go tell that to the Dem minority in Congress. They think $30,000 of Russian Troll ads is a freaking national crisis.

I can still fondly remember the days when Conservatives actually cared when Russia tried to harm the United States.

Putin could only DREAM of the damage that YOU partisans have inflicted on this country. He CANNOT and does not want to "pick candidates"... His objective is to take advantage of OUR OWN self-mutilation and confidence destroying.. ..

LOL- 'we partisans'.

Putin does want to pick candidates- he has tried to interfere in elections in the United States and in Europe.

As it has come out- the intentions were mostly to damage his expected Clinton presidency by promoting anti-Clinton and pro-Trump propaganda.

Yes- of course Putin- and Russia's intent has been to damage democracy. Something that Trump has gleefully embraced.

Trump has attacked the election process- by declaring before the election that it was rigged, has attacked our security agencies- again declaring that they are out to get him and can't be trusted, and has attacked even the veracity of our elections- claiming with absolutely no evidence that there were 5 million illegal votes cast.

Meanwhile Trump's echo chamber- the GOP House Intelligence committee- i.e. Nunes- have done everything that they can to persuade Americans that they cannot trust the government, the FBI, the justice department, the media- basically anyone who is not personally loyal to Trump himself.

No- this is on Trump. No one has done more to undermine the confidence in the American election system and our system of government than Trump.

 

[dblack]

I always get a kick out of threads that highlight the hypocrisy of partisan tools. In this thread, we have liberals speaking up for the freedom of private businesses to discriminate, and conservatives complaining about it. In another thread they'll swap sides. So much for principle.

 

[Pogo]

but Pumpkin girl argues that somehow FDR went back in a time machine and started the Great Depression.

You lie!

Show us where she said that.

YOUR credibility is at stake.

Pumpkin claimed twice that FDR 'caused' the Great Depression

Quoting her:

You did not believe that his Socialist policies created and extended the Great Depression

Before FDR took office, what we had was a minor recession, FDR took over and turned it into a Great Depression,

When did the Great Depression start?
First of all- it is important to realize that the Great Depression was world wide- it actually started outside the United States.

The Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic depression that took place mostly during the 1930s, originating in the United States.[dubious – discuss][unbalanced opinion?] The timing of the Great Depression varied across nations; in most countries it started in 1929 and lasted until 1941.[1] It was the longest, deepest, and most widespread depression of the 20th century

What is the definition of economic 'Depression'?

One is:

1. a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or
2. a recession lasting 2 or more years.

FDR was elected in 1933- 4 years into the 'recession'- which means 2 years into the Great Depression.

The only way FDR could have 'caused' the Great Depression was if he hopped in a Time Machine and somehow became President instead of Hoover.

He went and got him a Herbert Hoover mask. While serving as Governor of New York at the same time.

I tell ya the man was a master of disguise, not to mention being in two places at once.

 

[skye]

 

[Syriusly]

I always get a kick out of threads that highlight the hypocrisy of partisan tools. In this thread, we have liberals speaking up for the freedom of private businesses to discriminate, and conservatives complaining about it. In another thread they'll swap sides. So much for principle.

I always get a kick out of posts where the poster demonstrates his deliberate ignorance. Like yours.

Private business's absolutely have the right to discriminate- as long as they follow the law.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Computing Forever
This video goes into detail on what happened with the Youtube changes.