Your Congressman Takes Bribes

[bigrebnc1775]

Would you walk away from $500,000 a year to work to make America a better place? Jimmy Williams did.

Williams, now the Executive Directory of Get Money Out, is the lobbyist-turned-activist whose conscience drove him to partner up with MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan in an attempt to save America from itself.

Source: Your Congressman Takes Bribes | Benzinga

Let me take a wild guess it's your attempt to show that republicans takes bribes
And here's why I think you are doing this

"I kind of liken it to the Tea Party or to Obama's campaign from 200

Comparing the tea party to the obama campaign when the obama campign had big deep money pockets supporting it

Directing attention to two of the supposed conservative Judges on the supreme court.
ad the OWS movement how come the OWS doesn't go and protest in D.C. and the white house?

 

[konradv]

Lobbyists.. r.. us. Whether it's the greenie Sierra club or the NRA most of us chip in and hire people to speak to elected representatives for us regarding matters we think are important. That's the way it works. The problem is that we hate the lobbyists who work for the other guy. Grow up people.

...OR a constitutional amendment calling for public financing of elections. Do that and all lobbyists can do is pitch their position, NOT their money. We need to level the playing field or our representitives will never listen to us, just to those with the deepest pockets.

"Public" financing of elections? You know what "public" means don't you? You want taxpayers to fund ads for politicians against their will? You think the politicians who wrecked Fannie Mae should be able to wreck the electoral system too? It goes back to my original statement. People who complain about lobbyists really like their own lobbyist but they hate the other guys lobbyist. Putting the government in complete control of their own elections is a recipe for disaster...or socialism.

Your lobbyist!!!

You ever think what they could be doing with that cash, if they weren't buying elections? Maybe giving us a discounts to pay for elections ourselves? Besides, can't you see the savings involved in our representives not being lured by the money tree? Why do you think the deficit's so high? It ain't all welfare.

 

[konradv]

Would you walk away from $500,000 a year to work to make America a better place? Jimmy Williams did.

Williams, now the Executive Directory of Get Money Out, is the lobbyist-turned-activist whose conscience drove him to partner up with MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan in an attempt to save America from itself.

Source: Your Congressman Takes Bribes | Benzinga

Let me take a wild guess it's your attempt to show that republicans takes bribes
And here's why I think you are doing this

"I kind of liken it to the Tea Party or to Obama's campaign from 200

Comparing the tea party to the obama campaign when the obama campign had big deep money pockets supporting it

Directing attention to two of the supposed conservative Judges on the supreme court.
ad the OWS movement how come the OWS doesn't go and protest in D.C. and the white house?

If you did some reading instead of just guessing, you wouldn't look so foolish, IMHO, of course.

 

[whitehall]

...OR a constitutional amendment calling for public financing of elections. Do that and all lobbyists can do is pitch their position, NOT their money. We need to level the playing field or our representitives will never listen to us, just to those with the deepest pockets.

"Public" financing of elections? You know what "public" means don't you? You want taxpayers to fund ads for politicians against their will? You think the politicians who wrecked Fannie Mae should be able to wreck the electoral system too? It goes back to my original statement. People who complain about lobbyists really like their own lobbyist but they hate the other guys lobbyist. Putting the government in complete control of their own elections is a recipe for disaster...or socialism.

Your lobbyist!!!

You ever think what they could be doing with that cash, if they weren't buying elections? Maybe giving us a discounts to pay for elections ourselves? Besides, can't you see the savings involved in our representives not being lured by the money tree? Why do you think the deficit's so high? It ain't all welfare.

There is nothing to LOL about. Lobbyists are doing what we pay them to do. I think we are drifting into another subject besides lobbying. Lobbyists approach elected representatives on behalf of people who are concerned about issues but they don't finance elections. Usually the major political parties solicit funding. It should be noted that the left snickered when Al Gore violated the campaign finance laws but he was a democrat so it didn't matter.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Would you walk away from $500,000 a year to work to make America a better place? Jimmy Williams did.

Williams, now the Executive Directory of Get Money Out, is the lobbyist-turned-activist whose conscience drove him to partner up with MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan in an attempt to save America from itself.

Source: Your Congressman Takes Bribes | Benzinga

Let me take a wild guess it's your attempt to show that republicans takes bribes
And here's why I think you are doing this

"I kind of liken it to the Tea Party or to Obama's campaign from 200

Comparing the tea party to the obama campaign when the obama campign had big deep money pockets supporting it

Directing attention to two of the supposed conservative Judges on the supreme court.
ad the OWS movement how come the OWS doesn't go and protest in D.C. and the white house?

If you did some reading instead of just guessing, you wouldn't look so foolish, IMHO, of course.

Of course this was a partisan attack on republicans?

 

[konradv]

"Public" financing of elections? You know what "public" means don't you? You want taxpayers to fund ads for politicians against their will? You think the politicians who wrecked Fannie Mae should be able to wreck the electoral system too? It goes back to my original statement. People who complain about lobbyists really like their own lobbyist but they hate the other guys lobbyist. Putting the government in complete control of their own elections is a recipe for disaster...or socialism.

Your lobbyist!!!

You ever think what they could be doing with that cash, if they weren't buying elections? Maybe giving us a discounts to pay for elections ourselves? Besides, can't you see the savings involved in our representives not being lured by the money tree? Why do you think the deficit's so high? It ain't all welfare.

There is nothing to LOL about. Lobbyists are doing what we pay them to do. I think we are drifting into another subject besides lobbying. Lobbyists approach elected representatives on behalf of people who are concerned about issues but they don't finance elections. Usually the major political parties solicit funding. It should be noted that the left snickered when Al Gore violated the campaign finance laws but he was a democrat so it didn't matter.

Funding is solicited by candidates in those meetings with lobbyists. Parties mainly do the grass roots stuff. Representitives' votes are bought retail.

 

[konradv]

Let me take a wild guess it's your attempt to show that republicans takes bribes
And here's why I think you are doing this


Comparing the tea party to the obama campaign when the obama campign had big deep money pockets supporting it

Directing attention to two of the supposed conservative Judges on the supreme court.
ad the OWS movement how come the OWS doesn't go and protest in D.C. and the white house?

If you did some reading instead of just guessing, you wouldn't look so foolish, IMHO, of course.

Of course this was a partisan attack on republicans?

Are you making a statement or asking a question?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If you did some reading instead of just guessing, you wouldn't look so foolish, IMHO, of course.

Of course this was a partisan attack on republicans?

Are you making a statement or asking a question?

just pointing out the obvious

 

[konradv]

Of course this was a partisan attack on republicans?

Are you making a statement or asking a question?

just pointing out the obvious

That you can't read?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Are you making a statement or asking a question?

just pointing out the obvious

That you can't read?

It appears you can't read. Go back to the first post I made in this thread I gave my reasons why I said what I did.

 

[whitehall]

You like your own lobbyist but you think the other guy's lobbyist is a crook. I expect the libs want the greenies to have access to elected representatives but they want the NRA lobbyists in jail. Here's the secret, pay attention to your congressman. The Founding Fathers made him responsible to the people by having to run for election every two years. If you think he is taking bribes make it known and campaign against him but don't be ignorant enough to think that if you deny a citizens right to petition the government you will be solving the problem.

 

[bripat9643]

The influence of money is lessened by demanding honesty from politicans and driving the rest out of public life forever. But then, Marion Berry wouldn't get another term!

You can't lessen the influence of money by taking money away from people who have it and distributing that money among the envious. The basic dishonesty remains. If they can't get money, they'll trade for power, or women, or conch shells.

Yep, the only way to get the money out of politics is to quite sending money to Washington. That means cut the federal budget by 95%. When politicians no longer have trillions of dollars to distribute, people will no longer have any incentive to bribe them.

 

[konradv]

You like your own lobbyist but you think the other guy's lobbyist is a crook. I expect the libs want the greenies to have access to elected representatives but they want the NRA lobbyists in jail. Here's the secret, pay attention to your congressman. The Founding Fathers made him responsible to the people by having to run for election every two years. If you think he is taking bribes make it known and campaign against him but don't be ignorant enough to think that if you deny a citizens right to petition the government you will be solving the problem.

Never said anything an bout not petitioning represemtitives. It's bribing them, I oppose. As for who it would apply to, what about a constitutional amendment don't you understand?

 

[konradv]

just pointing out the obvious

That you can't read?

It appears you can't read. Go back to the first post I made in this thread I gave my reasons why I said what I did.

So you made something up in your own head. It has NO relationship to what I've been saying. Your reasons are all political, while mine was a non-partisan attempt to give a solution to current problems. If you just want a partisan "gotcha" session, look for someone else to play with.

 

[editec]

The system ENCOURAGES bribery of our elected officials.

They have the system so fine-tuned such that the bribes appear to be something other than that, but in the final analysis, that is EXACTLY what they really are.

Face it, kids.

Our system is DESIGNED for criminals, such that their crimes against this nation are perfectly legal.

 

[konradv]

The system ENCOURAGES bribery of our elected officials.

They have the system so fine-tuned such that the bribes appear to be something other than that, but in the final analysis, that is EXACTLY what they really are.

Face it, kids.

Our system is DESIGNED for criminals, such that their crimes against this nation are perfectly legal.

It's also NOT a matter of making lobbying illegal. Lobbyists will still be able to influence legislation. They'll just have to depend on the strength of their arguments, instead of the size of their checkbooks.

 

[konradv]

The influence of money is lessened by demanding honesty from politicans and driving the rest out of public life forever. But then, Marion Berry wouldn't get another term!

You can't lessen the influence of money by taking money away from people who have it and distributing that money among the envious. The basic dishonesty remains. If they can't get money, they'll trade for power, or women, or conch shells.

Yep, the only way to get the money out of politics is to quite sending money to Washington. That means cut the federal budget by 95%. When politicians no longer have trillions of dollars to distribute, people will no longer have any incentive to bribe them.

How's that going to happen, if they're getting bribed not to vote that way? A constitutional amendment establishing public funding of elections is the ONLY way to go.

 

[konradv]

I promise to vote for whichever Republican makes a constitutional amendment to establish public financing of elections, a campaign centerpiece.

 

[konradv]

I promise to vote for whichever Republican makes a constitutional amendment to establish public financing of elections, a campaign centerpiece.

Really, if you don't think it's all about the money, regardless of party, you haven't been paying attention. How are we going to balance the budget, if the big boys can keep bribing representitives to vote for their favorite program or government project?

 

[konradv]

I promise to vote for whichever Republican makes a constitutional amendment to establish public financing of elections, a campaign centerpiece.

Really, if you don't think it's all about the money, regardless of party, you haven't been paying attention. How are we going to balance the budget, if the big boys can keep bribing representitives to vote for their favorite program or government project?

Enjoying the "Battle of the PACS", er..., the Republican primaries?