You want a solution?

[abi]

Israel, then, for the moment, has all practical control over these areas. Israel is in a position of unilateral decision making. What should Israel decide to do?

Don't demolish homes. And definitely don't build Jewish only towns on Muslim or Christian land.

 

[Shusha]

... on Muslim or Christian land.

Muslim or Christian land? Good grief.

 

[Shusha]

Don't demolish homes.

Alright. Got your message. Clear as glass. It is permissible to build illegally. Gotcha. You have just solved the problem of outposts and settlements. Thanks for that.

 

[abi]

... on Muslim or Christian land.

Muslim or Christian land? Good grief.

What is your problem? Have you read the OP? Or anything relevant to this thread?

From post 2:

Sorry, but for clarity: The herders are raising some 4,000 sheep, 200 camels and 600 cows. All the land in question is either privately owned by Palestinians or owned by the Catholic Church.
Haaretz.Com

 

[ForeverYoung436]

... on Muslim or Christian land.

Muslim or Christian land? Good grief.

What is your problem? Have you read the OP? Or anything relevant to this thread?

From post 2:

Sorry, but for clarity: The herders are raising some 4,000 sheep, 200 camels and 600 cows. All the land in question is either privately owned by Palestinians or owned by the Catholic Church.
Haaretz.Com

Why does the Catholic Church own land on the West Bank?

 

[abi]

Why does the Catholic Church own land on the West Bank?

This is telling. Of how bad our schools are. Where was Jesus born? Bethlehem, in Palestine, or what you call the West Bank.

 

[fncceo]

Where was Jesus born?

I know at least one who was born in Mexico...

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Why does the Catholic Church own land on the West Bank?

This is telling. Of how bad our schools are. Where was Jesus born? Bethlehem, in Palestine, or what you call the West Bank.

I know that, of course. But ownership means owning something legally. When did the Vatican buy property there and how did Israel allow it? I know that the Vatican has been trying to get its hands on Mount Zion and King David's Tomb (in Jerusalem) for years, but Israel has refused to cede that land to the Church.

 

[Shusha]

... on Muslim or Christian land.

Muslim or Christian land? Good grief.

What is your problem? Have you read the OP? Or anything relevant to this thread?

From post 2:

Sorry, but for clarity: The herders are raising some 4,000 sheep, 200 camels and 600 cows. All the land in question is either privately owned by Palestinians or owned by the Catholic Church.
Haaretz.Com

Repeat after me: private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty

Is the home I own in Canada Jewish land? Why or why not?

Is the mosque in your neighborhood Muslim land? Why or why not?

Is an apartment block in France owned by a Japanese man Shinto land? Why or why not?



Private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty.

 

[abi]

Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral.

 

[Shusha]

Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral. Demolishing homes is illegal and clearly immoral.

Are you five?

This IS the Palestinian mentality.

Fine then, all I can hope for is that the Jewish people build as many homes in their historical, ancestral and religious homeland as possible.

And demolishing them is illegal and clearly immoral. Sigh. You create the rules, you live with them then.

 

[P F Tinmore]

... on Muslim or Christian land.

Muslim or Christian land? Good grief.

What is your problem? Have you read the OP? Or anything relevant to this thread?

From post 2:

Sorry, but for clarity: The herders are raising some 4,000 sheep, 200 camels and 600 cows. All the land in question is either privately owned by Palestinians or owned by the Catholic Church.
Haaretz.Com

Repeat after me: private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty

Is the home I own in Canada Jewish land? Why or why not?

Is the mosque in your neighborhood Muslim land? Why or why not?

Is an apartment block in France owned by a Japanese man Shinto land? Why or why not?



Private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty, private ownership is not sovereignty.

Indeed, that is why Jewish owned land in Palestine was still Palestinian land. Private ownership does not remove that land from the country.

 

[Shusha]

Indeed, that is why Jewish owned land in Palestine was still Palestinian land. Private ownership does not remove that land from the country.

Rather that Arab owned land is still in the homeland for the Jewish people.

 

[teddyearp]

And then there's the rest of the story:

Although Lazaroff’s article correctly described the “Palestinian Beduin villages” of Umm Jamal and Ein al Hilweh as illegal, that’s more or less where the factuality ends. Quoting attorney Tawfiq Jabareen, who represents these illegal encampments, Lazaroff repeated his patently false statement that “some of the families came 30 years ago from the South Hebron Hills and others were here before 1967.”

In fact, aerial photos taken as recently as 2004 show that there was no village – Beduin, Palestinian, or any other kind – in this area; aerial photos going back to 1999 debunk Jabareen’s claims altogether. At most, in certain seasons there were tents in the area, constructed for temporary shelter by the nomadic shepherds who passed through with their flocks. This hardly constitutes ownership, settlement, or historic claims to land.

Even worse, Lazaroff’s article fails to convey the absurdity of the situation on the ground in the Jordan Valley. The location of the “villages” of Ein al Hilweh and Umm Jamal endangers everyone who utilizes the roads and interchanges these illegal settlements are currently obstructing – including Jewish residents of Maskiot, Arab residents of Tubas, and the Beduin themselves. The Umm Jamal squatters’ camp has begun to encroach upon an IDF firing zone – putting the Beduin squatters themselves in grave danger. Why, we might well ask, would the United Nations Office for Coordination of Human Rights Affairs want the Civil Administration to permit their continued residence in a firing zone?

Link: Ein al Hilweh and Umm Jamal: Facts on the ground

 

[abi]

Are you five?

This IS the Palestinian mentality.

No, and it's the human mentality.

 

[Shusha]

Are you five?

This IS the Palestinian mentality.

No, and it's the human mentality.

No more talk about the "settlements" then, right?

 

[abi]

Israeli authorities yesterday demolished the Palestinian village of Al-Araqeeb in the Negev Desert for the 121st time....

Israeli forces last demolished Al-Araqeeb on 25 October. It was first levelled on 27 July 2010. Residents have been ordered to pay for all demolitions at a cost of over half a million dollars.
Israel demolishes Palestinian village Al-Araqeeb for 121st times

Now, that's chutzpah!

 

[Shusha]

Israeli authorities yesterday demolished the Palestinian village of Al-Araqeeb in the Negev Desert for the 121st time....

Israeli forces last demolished Al-Araqeeb on 25 October. It was first levelled on 27 July 2010. Residents have been ordered to pay for all demolitions at a cost of over half a million dollars.
Israel demolishes Palestinian village Al-Araqeeb for 121st times

Now, that's chutzpah!

Lawless squatters. What do you think, objectively, is the solution to lawless squatters?

 

[abi]

Demolishing homes is both illegal and immoral as it gets. I am really trying to understand how a person even argues this. If nothing else, you people sure are true believers.

 

[abi]

Again, even my Jewish, zionist friends and relatives know this. Only the most extremist, lowest forms of life try to even make this topic one for debate.

As Israelis, we believe that the only chance for a political settlement that can work is to advocate for full equality of Palestinians and Israelis in Palestine/Israel, with their collective and individual rights constitutionally guaranteed. Indeed, a workable peace must also address the needs of all the peoples of our conflict-ridden region for security, dignity, freedom and economic opportunity.
Our Mission and Vision - ICAHD

So far in 2017

351

STRUCTURES DEMOLISHED


528

PEOPLE DISPLACED


48,743

STRUCTURES DEMOLISHED IN OPT SINCE 1967
The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD)

Alright. Got your message. Clear as glass. It is permissible to build illegally. Gotcha. You have just solved the problem of outposts and settlements. Thanks for that.

If you really want to convince us that Israel wants peace, then join the Israelis linked above. By coming on here to argue why it's cool to demolish homes and steal land, you mare accomplishing just the opposite.