You can't actually fix healthcare....

[justoffal]

Any time you decide to finance against the inevitable you will fail.

At best we can stave it off as gracefully as we can
manage....but it can never avoided.

As the body ages and deteriorates the quest to keep it working becomes more expensive and less likely...exponentially. In short there isn't enough wealth on the entire planet to keep a dying human alive...in the end it's not a money battle anymore...it's a battle against the inevitable physics of our cosmic quarters. You cannot buy around it or buy out of it.

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

 

[Mack The Finger]

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

 

[Crepitus]

Any time you decide to finance against the inevitable you will fail.

At best we can stave it off as gracefully as we can
manage....but it can never avoided.

As the body ages and deteriorates the quest to keep it working becomes more expensive and less likely...exponentially. In short there isn't enough wealth on the entire planet to keep a dying human alive...in the end it's not a money battle anymore...it's a battle against the inevitable physics of our cosmic quarters. You cannot buy around it or buy out of it.

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

Sure we can. Medicare for all.

 

[egp320i]

Any time you decide to finance against the inevitable you will fail.

At best we can stave it off as gracefully as we can
manage....but it can never avoided.

As the body ages and deteriorates the quest to keep it working becomes more expensive and less likely...exponentially. In short there isn't enough wealth on the entire planet to keep a dying human alive...in the end it's not a money battle anymore...it's a battle against the inevitable physics of our cosmic quarters. You cannot buy around it or buy out of it.

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

Fact people are living longer now compounds it as elderly people are always in the hospital or need expensive medication and that drives the cost up
If everybody was healthy the cost would be cheap

We would need to institute a logan's run to keep the cost way down

only those born with some issue would actually need insurance or
use the hospital

And of course women when having a child, they don't work for free to deliver
unless you want to try and wing it at your house

 

[candycorn]

Any time you decide to finance against the inevitable you will fail.

At best we can stave it off as gracefully as we can
manage....but it can never avoided.

As the body ages and deteriorates the quest to keep it working becomes more expensive and less likely...exponentially. In short there isn't enough wealth on the entire planet to keep a dying human alive...in the end it's not a money battle anymore...it's a battle against the inevitable physics of our cosmic quarters. You cannot buy around it or buy out of it.

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

There are fixes...its one area where capitalism fails miserably. Nobody's healthcare should depend on their ability to pay and the geographic blessing or curse of your birth. Unfortunately that is the model we have...

 

[dblack]

Nobody's healthcare should depend on their ability to pay ...

That's the popular bromide, rarely challenged. But why shouldn't healthcare depend on one's ability to pay - like all the rest of our needs?

 

[candycorn]

That's the popular bromide, rarely challenged. But why shouldn't healthcare depend on one's ability to pay - like all the rest of our needs?

It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor....nah you wouldn't understand. MAGA types are pretend Christians at best.

 

[egp320i]

There are fixes...its one area where capitalism fails miserably. Nobody's healthcare should depend on their ability to pay and the geographic blessing or curse of your birth. Unfortunately that is the model we have...

fairly sure that is the model that is uses around the world, it's not unique to us

young and healthy......play less, you are not a burden on the system

old and not healthy.....pay more, you are a burden on the system

You fail to grasp that insurance companies are not charity and want to make a large profit, right??

The pay to play is used here, can't pay you can't get the best coverage

money talks.....always has and will

if you can't pay there is your state insurance that can help


candycorn:
It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor....nah you wouldn't understand. MAGA types are pretend Christians at best.

really, so liberals like pelosi are going to pay for your insurance? LOL, not even close

if you got sick would your neighbor give you cash to go to the hospital?

not sure what utopian land you live on but that's not how it works at all but you can keep dreaming

 

[candycorn]

fairly sure that is the model that is uses around the world, it's not unique to us

young and healthy......play less, you are not a burden on the system

old and not healthy.....pay more, you are a burden on the system

You fail to grasp that insurance companies are not charity and want to make a large profit, right??

The pay to play is used here, can't pay you can't get the best coverage

money talks.....always has and will

if you can't pay there is your state insurance that can help

Nah, in most other developed nations they have nationwide healthcare. Patient health is the first consideration; not shareholder return. There are folks over there who act just like MAGA dolts here on this topic. So far they've been laughed out of the room at every turn on this topic. That'll likely change.

I work for the healthcare system we have, BTW. So I'm guilty by association.

candycorn:
It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor....nah you wouldn't understand. MAGA types are pretend Christians at best.

really, so liberals like pelosi are going to pay for your insurance? LOL, not even close

if you got sick would your neighbor give you cash to go to the hospital?

not sure what utopian land you live on but that's not how it works at all but you can keep dreaming

Well, he was asking "why"...I pointed out why. It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor. If you don't subscribe to that covenant...that's fine. You have the right to be as self centered and a-holish as you wish to be in our nation. But stop pretending you you're driven by "christian" values when clearly you're not.

 

[22lcidw]

It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor....nah you wouldn't understand. MAGA types are pretend Christians at best.

That Christian card is used like the race card and all the other cards. Soon enough you may try the Islam card. They will answer you in a different way.

 

[Votto]

This was the Left vision of health care right before they passed Obamacare, which no one can afford now without never ending subsided from government.



Essentially, it will become more and more expensive with less and less good results as the young and healthy will be burdened their entire lives with it as well as those who are sick.

Isn't interesting how the government does not seem to care about government spending UNTIL it comes to your health care?

Mark my words, they will get those costs down.

Death panels anyone?

Mwhahahahaha!!!!

 

[Votto]

The Left wants government to completely take over health care, the same government that now refuses to pay people on SNAP as they go hungry, and all on a whim

Let that sink in for a bit.

 

[justoffal]

This was the Left vision of health care right before they passed Obamacare, which no one can afford now without never ending subsided from government.



Essentially, it will become more and more expensive with less and less good results as the young and healthy will be burdened their entire lives with it as well as those who are sick.

Isn't interesting how the government does not seem to care about government spending UNTIL it comes to your health care?

Mark my words, they will get those costs down.

Death panels anyone?

Mwhahahahaha!!!!

We can always hope but in the final analysis this is building Sandcastles before high tide....

 

[dblack]

It has to do with the covenant of helping thy neighbor....nah you wouldn't understand.

I get you're just flinging an insult, but I understand that covenant perfectly well. What I'm asking is why health care is any different than our other needs. Why is it "sacred"? Why shouldn't we have to pay for it?

MAGA types are pretend Christians at best.

For ***** sake you partisan nitwits are tedious. I'm not MAGA. Not a Christian either. But you cling to your stereotypes. If that's all you got.

 

[dblack]

I work for the healthcare system we have, BTW. So I'm guilty by association.

Indeed. I bet you even charge for your services, don't you?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Any time you decide to finance against the inevitable you will fail.

At best we can stave it off as gracefully as we can
manage....but it can never avoided.

As the body ages and deteriorates the quest to keep it working becomes more expensive and less likely...exponentially. In short there isn't enough wealth on the entire planet to keep a dying human alive...in the end it's not a money battle anymore...it's a battle against the inevitable physics of our cosmic quarters. You cannot buy around it or buy out of it.

We could escape time if we could accelerate to the speed of light.... unfortunately the equation that describes that transition indicates that there isn't enough energy in the entire observable universe to accomplish that feat.....because the requirements are virtually limitless....something akin to aging and death.

Says the only developed country that can't.

 

[dblack]

If no one should have to pay for health care, all we need to do is make it illegal to charge for health care. Problem solved.

 

[justoffal]

If no one should have to pay for health care, all we need to do is make it illegal to charge for health care. Problem solved.

Exactly.....
Let's try that out eh?

Jo

 

[candycorn]

I get you're just flinging an insult, but I understand that covenant perfectly well. What I'm asking is why health care is any different than our other needs. Why is it "sacred"? Why shouldn't we have to pay for it?

You’re actually asking why healthcare is different than buying a blender?

Wow.

For ***** sake you partisan nitwits are tedious. I'm not MAGA. Not a Christian either. But you cling to your stereotypes. If that's all you got.

You’re 1000% MAGA

 

[dblack]

You’re actually asking why healthcare is different than buying a blender?

No. Why it's different than food, housing, etc etc... I said "needs". Don't play your equivocation games with me. How much free shit do you want?

You’re 1000% MAGA

Of course, of course. And the dumb MAGA motherfuckers are 1000% convinced I'm a lefty. See a pattern? Idiot partisan drones with your heads up your asses. There's more to the world than your two-party pissing match.