Would you work in a factory making I-Phones?

MFG sites are not just “operator” jobs. From the first shovel in the ground to lading the first widget REQUIRES an army of highly skilled employees to get it going and keep it going. Menial jobs are still there too.

Electronic tech is a vocational school certificate ... the engineers upstairs are (of course) college grads ... we had two or three, plus ten or twelve in my shop ...

Little more than a hundred illiterate immigrants doing the actual assembly ... strictly minimum wage, no benefits ... they're given a tray of circuit cards and a box of resistors ... their job is to put a resistor in the circuit card where it's printed "R38" ... then the tray is passed on to the next illiterate immigrant for the next component ...

After the card is soldered, my job was to test it ... and then fix it if it didn't work ... 2/3's the failures were parts inserted wrong ... so the robot eliminates 2/3's my work ... in fact, the circuit card is so inexpensive now, we get illiterate immigrants to test them and throw them away if they don't work ... many of them are happy with half minimum ...

Still need the engineers upstairs ... they still get paid well ... maybe a good direction for your college education? ...
 
Now I know most folks on this forum are retired now but back in the day, say in a factory that made the old ATT phones and you are just starting out.

Depending on the pay/bennies I would have in a heartbeat.

I don't know why but it seems these days factory work is looked down upon because it's so removed (generationally) from what we had in America before NAFTA. Folks have forgotten the pride that came with such work.

Back then if you had a few factories in town they would have their own softball teams and such. They would be Little League sponsors and did all manner of other little things to help the community like supporting those kids that were not college bound with limited hours work programs at their sites with an eye on employing them after graduation.

We really need to make "factory towns" in America great again.
I lived in a true "factory" town in the 1960's and early 70's. With a population a little over two thousand people, the primary employer was Shuford Mills, a hosiery mill. Dad was the store manager of the one chain grocery store in town, there was a small independent grocer in town as well.

The grocery store hours were from 8 to 5, Monday through Thursday, except for Wednesday, the whole town shut down at noon on Wednesday. Friday and Saturday it was 8 to 6, closed on Sunday.

Yes, industrial league softball. Seemed everyone played on a team. Sure, little league, sometimes fielding a team in the little league world series. Most impressive, a world class sporting facility. Olympic sized pool with one and three meter diving bay. Indoor basketball courts, beautiful baseball and softball fields, pool tables, ping-pong. All paid for with tax dollars and all free to the residents in the area.

When you got sick, or hurt, you went to the doctor. There was no bill, there was no cost. The doctor was on the factory payroll. But you didn't have to work at the factory to utilize his services.
 
Electronic tech is a vocational school certificate ... the engineers upstairs are (of course) college grads ... we had two or three, plus ten or twelve in my shop ...

Little more than a hundred illiterate immigrants doing the actual assembly ... strictly minimum wage, no benefits ... they're given a tray of circuit cards and a box of resistors ... their job is to put a resistor in the circuit card where it's printed "R38" ... then the tray is passed on to the next illiterate immigrant for the next component ...

After the card is soldered, my job was to test it ... and then fix it if it didn't work ... 2/3's the failures were parts inserted wrong ... so the robot eliminates 2/3's my work ... in fact, the circuit card is so inexpensive now, we get illiterate immigrants to test them and throw them away if they don't work ... many of them are happy with half minimum ...

Still need the engineers upstairs ... they still get paid well ... maybe a good direction for your college education? ...


They’ve had and used wave solder machines since the early 80s’ . Sure as you posted there may always be some low level hand work going on. Rework lines?
 
Now I know most folks on this forum are retired now but back in the day, say in a factory that made the old ATT phones and you are just starting out.

Depending on the pay/bennies I would have in a heartbeat.

I don't know why but it seems these days factory work is looked down upon because it's so removed (generationally) from what we had in America before NAFTA. Folks have forgotten the pride that came with such work.

Back then if you had a few factories in town they would have their own softball teams and such. They would be Little League sponsors and did all manner of other little things to help the community like supporting those kids that were not college bound with limited hours work programs at their sites with an eye on employing them after graduation.

We really need to make "factory towns" in America great again.
I have installed machines and fixed overhead doors in factories but have never been an employee of said factories. The change in scenery is what I enjoyed. Not sure I could have gone to the same place every day my entire career. I was only in each location for a short period but due to yr old rumor mill in these places I knew much more about these people's lives than I cared to. Cheating spouses ran rampant in these places. I did some work in some predominantly female factories and had some crazy things said to me, way worse than I have ever seen said to a female at a construction site. I never considered myself a pride but the things I heard in these places made me want to take a shower to wash it off. The female herd mentality was disturbing. Way,way worse than ever contemplated by my group of guy friends.
 
Now I know most folks on this forum are retired now but back in the day, say in a factory that made the old ATT phones and you are just starting out.

Depending on the pay/bennies I would have in a heartbeat.

I don't know why but it seems these days factory work is looked down upon because it's so removed (generationally) from what we had in America before NAFTA. Folks have forgotten the pride that came with such work.

Back then if you had a few factories in town they would have their own softball teams and such. They would be Little League sponsors and did all manner of other little things to help the community like supporting those kids that were not college bound with limited hours work programs at their sites with an eye on employing them after graduation.

We really need to make "factory towns" in America great again.
There are particular people who enjoy Factory work. I was in the construction union, however this trade does not guarantee annual full time work. In periods of being laid off, I worked in a Cookie making factory, an Automobile factory, and finally a Cannery which is a food factory. None were satisfying to me. I longed for days I would be hired to work in Pile Driving. Actually all of those experiences caused me to start my own machine shop where I never had to drive long distances just to work. Being boss of a machine shop when I never had worked in one, was revealing. I had to educate myself fast and persuade company buyers that I was good and reliable. I never told the buyers I never worked in a machine shop. My buying all I needed to be in business was a good start. A hard start. Construction had paid me handsomely so I had great credit and cash on hand. Even now as I am retired, I have very excellent credit. Jobs are valuable to workers. I believe the best move is to restore the states factories again and to help workers get jobs.
 
Not unless they paid me more than I currently make as a nurse
 
Now I know most folks on this forum are retired now but back in the day, say in a factory that made the old ATT phones and you are just starting out.

Depending on the pay/bennies I would have in a heartbeat.

I don't know why but it seems these days factory work is looked down upon because it's so removed (generationally) from what we had in America before NAFTA. Folks have forgotten the pride that came with such work.

Back then if you had a few factories in town they would have their own softball teams and such. They would be Little League sponsors and did all manner of other little things to help the community like supporting those kids that were not college bound with limited hours work programs at their sites with an eye on employing them after graduation.

We really need to make "factory towns" in America great again.

Yes yes yes
 
Then businesses and the gov't began to require a college degree to get hired for almost any job with a future. Now, everyone has a college degree and they aren't worth much.
And businesses have backed off of that college degree BS. I watched it in my "factory job" starting in the late 90s. They pushed it until just before I retired and I was actually one of those that replaced an incompetent college graduate. SMH--then some businesses lost their minds and went CRT, DEI and woke. That didn't work out well for them either.
 
Most Americans would not want to work making IPhones and even if they did we would never have the manpower to do it given how labor intensive they are to make. As it stands now the Chinese working at those factories can’t stand it.


Few American would stand for the low pay, long hours and strenuous working conditions.
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Seems sort of like my old DuPont schedule.

LOL....My old VDOC schedule was even better, 7 days on, 7 days off.

If you banked a years worth of vacation you could take two periods of 21 days off a year and still have near a year's worth of vacation time to roll over.

I had so much time banked when I retired I did not work for six months till my vacation, sick, and comp time ran out.

These days I hear they just lump sum you out.
The canneries in the central valley of CA are much the same. Great salary and benefits from June through Oct. Then live on unemployment for the other seven months. I've seen it happen for over fifty years and it continues to this day.
 
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