World's first human head transplant

[G.T.]

If he succeeds in transferring the brain intact but none of the nerves reconnect, that brain will be in complete isolation from the world, possibly for decades. I'd rather be dead.

no it wouldnt they wouldnt keep it alive

Interesting ethical question: do you terminate a living person that may or may not want to be terminated?

It couldnt live without the circulatory system of the new body.

 

[Divine Wind]

Interesting ethical question: do you terminate a living person that may or may not want to be terminated?

Agreed. It's a dilemma. OTOH, is it ethical to keep a person alive by artificial means even if they don't want it so?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Damage to the spinal cord rarely heals because the injured nerve cells fail to regenerate. The regrowth of their long nerve fibers is hindered by scar tissue and molecular processes inside the nerves. Scientists in now report that help might be on the way from an unexpected quarter.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150312173806.htm

Yep. Nerves do not heal.

 

[Wry Catcher]

if head transplants become normative, that increases our lifespan by a very, very long time shy of brain issues themselves

'There is no safety this side of the grave”
Stranger in a Strange Land

 

[Correll]

"Mr Crocker said: “The idea of cutting the spinal cord sharply rather than bluntly has a little medical support. The only well recognised success with spinal cord injury surgery came from a man who had a stab injury rather than a blunt injury."


That's interesting!


I've been hearing of baby steps being made no nerve regeneration. This seems a major leap forward...

I wish them all the luck in the world.


THe long term implications are staggering.

Also, the difference between being a head on a new and non connected body and being paralyzed from the Neck Down seem minor to me.

Both would be a living hell.

 

[G.T.]

if head transplants become normative, that increases our lifespan by a very, very long time shy of brain issues themselves

'There is no safety this side of the grave”
Stranger in a Strange Land

I dont necessarily agree, starting with safety being a relative term

 

[IsaacNewton]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

 

[Iceweasel]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

Why not? If it can be done where is the moral problem?

 

[alang1216]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

You have it backwards, it is giving a old head a new body that is no longer being used.

BTW, self driving cars are a wonderful idea.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Creepy! But good for him if it works.

It will work exactly like it did for Marie Antoinette..

 

[IsaacNewton]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

Why not? If it can be done where is the moral problem?

No moral problem. It's just stupid.

And all the tampering with DNA that is taking place is sooner or later going to result in the mutation of something into a new black plague that will have no natural checks and balances. And the worldwide delivery system for such an airborne pathogen is firmly in place, the airlines. It would spread worldwide before anyone knew it was out.

 

[Iceweasel]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

Why not? If it can be done where is the moral problem?

No moral problem. It's just stupid.

And all the tampering with DNA that is taking place is sooner or later going to result in the mutation of something into a new black plague that will have no natural checks and balances. And the worldwide delivery system for such an airborne pathogen is firmly in place, the airlines. It would spread worldwide before anyone knew it was out.

Oh, I hadn't considered that angle. We'll all be zombies soon so why bother.

 

[Correll]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

Why not?

 

[G.T.]

You know there are things that even though we can figure out how to do them we should not do. This is one of those. Self driving cars is another. Grow new organs for people from their own cells, yes a good idea. Give someone a new head from someone else, no.

I think we absolutely should

 

[koshergrl]

If he succeeds in transferring the brain intact but none of the nerves reconnect, that brain will be in complete isolation from the world, possibly for decades. I'd rather be dead.

no it wouldnt they wouldnt keep it alive

Interesting ethical question: do you terminate a living person that may or may not want to be terminated?

It's not interesting, it's the platform that progressives launch from.
Nazis agreed..yes, you do.
Commies said..absolutely.
Spartans..you bet.
Romans...yup.
Muslims...100%

And they all justified it by saying that some people aren't really PEOPLE in the sense that they have the rights that WE have. Nazis started out with the idea that you breed to a type...perfect babies, perfect breeders, kill the lame, halt, insane, malformed. They moved on to also killing Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Blacks...

Commies maintain that there are too many people, so for the betterment of the many they kill many. The many usually happen to be living in areas that the leaders want control of.

Spartans killed everybody including their own children, they maintained that if you were weak, you weren't entirely human.

Romans killed slaves, Christians and barbarians for fun, and thought themselves quite civilized and superior to the ones they killed.
Muslims believe it's okay to kill anybody who isn't a Muslim. Though they also feels it's okay to kill muslims.

Pretty much every murderous group the world has ever known sprang from the concept that there are people who don't deserve life because they aren't quite up to whatever standard is the current one. It's the life's blood of the progressives, this concept.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Talk to one of your local Microbiologists. Bad times are coming. We've only been using anti-biotics for a little over 100 years and they are quickly becoming useless as the organisms they killed are evolving and mutating. Some anti-biotics don't work at all, and there are some strains of bacteria that are immune to all but one or two of the last line of defense we have. And that wall WILL be breeched, and there aren't new ones to replace them yet. It has only taken 100 years of evolution for these organisms to adapt. Normally it takes millions of years.

People have lived with this idea that our technology is all powerful and will forever be so, it isn't and it won't. And the clock is ticking.

 

[Iceweasel]

Talk to one of your local Microbiologists. Bad times are coming. We've only been using anti-biotics for a little over 100 years and they are quickly becoming useless as the organisms they killed are evolving and mutating. Some anti-biotics don't work at all, and there are some strains of bacteria that are immune to all but one or two of the last line of defense we have. And that wall WILL be breeched, and there aren't new ones to replace them yet. It has only taken 100 years of evolution for these organisms to adapt. Normally it takes millions of years.

People have lived with this idea that our technology is all powerful and will forever be so, it isn't and it won't. And the clock is ticking.

I just picked up a hazmat suit from Home Depot. Do you think it will be enough?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Talk to one of your local Microbiologists. Bad times are coming. We've only been using anti-biotics for a little over 100 years and they are quickly becoming useless as the organisms they killed are evolving and mutating. Some anti-biotics don't work at all, and there are some strains of bacteria that are immune to all but one or two of the last line of defense we have. And that wall WILL be breeched, and there aren't new ones to replace them yet. It has only taken 100 years of evolution for these organisms to adapt. Normally it takes millions of years.

People have lived with this idea that our technology is all powerful and will forever be so, it isn't and it won't. And the clock is ticking.

I just picked up a hazmat suit from Home Depot. Do you think it will be enough?

Yes, they work well on the ignorant. You should be fine. Be sure not to wear gloves though your hands need to be free to swat mosquitoes.

 

[blastoff]

Somewhere Ted Williams is smiling. Or would be if he wasn't frozen.

Anyway, the Cubs should take him in next year's draft just in case.

 

[Iceweasel]

Talk to one of your local Microbiologists. Bad times are coming. We've only been using anti-biotics for a little over 100 years and they are quickly becoming useless as the organisms they killed are evolving and mutating. Some anti-biotics don't work at all, and there are some strains of bacteria that are immune to all but one or two of the last line of defense we have. And that wall WILL be breeched, and there aren't new ones to replace them yet. It has only taken 100 years of evolution for these organisms to adapt. Normally it takes millions of years.

People have lived with this idea that our technology is all powerful and will forever be so, it isn't and it won't. And the clock is ticking.

I just picked up a hazmat suit from Home Depot. Do you think it will be enough?

Yes, they work well on the ignorant. You should be fine. Be sure not to wear gloves though your hands need to be free to swat mosquitoes.

I got the contractor filters and already had motorcycle gloves.