World No Longer Bound to Defend Israel Internationally

[docmauser1]

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

Cool drivel.

 

[Kondor3]

The world has never been bound to defend Israel - as a matter of fact, Muslim-dominated nations and peoples have been trying to kill it for 66 years, and another part of the world that is obliged to kiss Muslim ass, in order to obtain access to oil resources, has been enabling them all along.

Instead of Vetoing various UNSC measures over the next two years, the US will, in all likelihood, merely Abstain during some of those votes against Israel.

Until January 20, 2017, anyway.

The Israelis know that they merely need ride-out that interim, while our Lame Duck attempts to do more damage to the relationship, until things get better again.

A matter for some degree of concern, as an interim measure, but certainly not the end of the world.

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

Did I not say 'huge chunks'?

Which is far different from 'all'.

Meanwhile, the cost-to-manufacture is, no doubt, offset to a large extent on the macro level, by the creation of jobs and the domino effect of that returned money on the economy.

Besides...

They get good value for that money we give them.

They help to keep The Beast at bay, and the barbarians outside the gates, in that part of the world.

Money well spent.

arms dealers got money.. filthy lobbyist got money
the tax payer got debt borrowing money from china to give to Israel...pure madness

Fun, ain't it?

Thanks for the contribution from your paycheck, by the way.

 

[eots]

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

Did I not say 'huge chunks'?

Which is far different from 'all'.

Meanwhile, the cost-to-manufacture is, no doubt, offset to a large extent on the macro level, by the creation of jobs and the domino effect of that returned money on the economy.

Besides...

They get good value for that money we give them.

They help to keep The Beast at bay, and the barbarians outside the gates, in that part of the world.

Money well spent.

arms dealers got money.. filthy lobbyist got money
the tax payer got debt borrowing money from china to give to Israel...pure madness

Fun, ain't it?

Thanks for the contribution from your paycheck, by the way.

I want my money back !

 

[docmauser1]

I want my money back !

With compound interest, and it's gone.

 

[Oldstyle]

there is this movie messageboard I post at and when you log in it says support israel.this is coming from a MOVE message board.

How much more proof do the sheople in america need that Israel and our governments are the REAL enemies of the world and not Iran like they are a making it out to be? i mean come on,why so much special attention to Israel,why are they so special they are the ONLY country that gets mentioned by message boards to support? wakey wakey.

When did America or Israel ever take Iranian hostages for 444 days ?
Iran is the enemy.

Israel is holding five million Palestinians hostage on their-own land...

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

 

[eots]

there is this movie messageboard I post at and when you log in it says support israel.this is coming from a MOVE message board.

How much more proof do the sheople in america need that Israel and our governments are the REAL enemies of the world and not Iran like they are a making it out to be? i mean come on,why so much special attention to Israel,why are they so special they are the ONLY country that gets mentioned by message boards to support? wakey wakey.

When did America or Israel ever take Iranian hostages for 444 days ?
Iran is the enemy.

Israel is holding five million Palestinians hostage on their-own land...

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

 

[Oldstyle]

When did America or Israel ever take Iranian hostages for 444 days ?
Iran is the enemy.

Israel is holding five million Palestinians hostage on their-own land...

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

 

[eots]

Israel is holding five million Palestinians hostage on their-own land...

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

when someone has taken billions and billions of dollars in a endless
cycle its is not interfering to try and encourage a solution..you involved ed the other party.we you seek support on that level

 

[eots]

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

when someone has taken billions and billions of dollars in a endless
cycle its is not interfering to try and encourage a solution..you involved the other party.when you seek support on that level

 

[Phoenall]

The world was never defending Israel, they defend themselves and do a damn good job at it.

A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion
http://www.wrmea.org/2008-november/...timate-of-total-direct-u.s.-aid-to-israel-alm

Good link it comes out here


Heavens to Murgatroyd! An error has occurred.
The page you were searching for does not exist here.

 

[Phoenall]

The world has never been bound to defend Israel - as a matter of fact, Muslim-dominated nations and peoples have been trying to kill it for 66 years, and another part of the world that is obliged to kiss Muslim ass, in order to obtain access to oil resources, has been enabling them all along.

Instead of Vetoing various UNSC measures over the next two years, the US will, in all likelihood, merely Abstain during some of those votes against Israel.

Until January 20, 2017, anyway.

The Israelis know that they merely need ride-out that interim, while our Lame Duck attempts to do more damage to the relationship, until things get better again.

A matter for some degree of concern, as an interim measure, but certainly not the end of the world.

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

You already have in interest on the loans and legalese fiddles to allow subsidisation of American goods. Then you have the Israeli goods at cost that you get every day. If you are going to slag Israel at least look at all the evidence.

 

[Phoenall]

The only thing that's holding the Palestinian people "hostage" is their insistence on wiping out Israel! If they became a partner with their neighbor they would be a prosperous Nation by now. Instead they've wasted decades backing terrorist groups that gain them nothing!

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

when someone has taken billions and billions of dollars in a endless
cycle its is not interfering to try and encourage a solution..you involved ed the other party.we you seek support on that level

So how much have the arab muslims had from the U.S. over the last 66 years then. I believe Saudi gets new American fighter planes every year, and their pilots are trained to fly them by American military instructors. Work out those costs alone ?

 

[eots]

The world was never defending Israel, they defend themselves and do a damn good job at it.

A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion
http://www.wrmea.org/2008-november/...timate-of-total-direct-u.s.-aid-to-israel-alm

Good link it comes out here


Heavens to Murgatroyd! An error has occurred.
The http://journalistsresource.org/stud...n-aid-to-israel-2014-congressional-reportpage you were searching for does not exist here.

 

[Phoenall]

The world has never been bound to defend Israel - as a matter of fact, Muslim-dominated nations and peoples have been trying to kill it for 66 years, and another part of the world that is obliged to kiss Muslim ass, in order to obtain access to oil resources, has been enabling them all along.

Instead of Vetoing various UNSC measures over the next two years, the US will, in all likelihood, merely Abstain during some of those votes against Israel.

Until January 20, 2017, anyway.

The Israelis know that they merely need ride-out that interim, while our Lame Duck attempts to do more damage to the relationship, until things get better again.

A matter for some degree of concern, as an interim measure, but certainly not the end of the world.

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

When you realise that the majority of that money is in the form of loans and is ring fenced for the purchase of American made goods only then you will see that America is in a win win situation

 

[eots]

then why did nuttyyahoo have to deceive voters to secure a election...by saying no 2 state solution..you make no sense

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

when someone has taken billions and billions of dollars in a endless
cycle its is not interfering to try and encourage a solution..you involved ed the other party.we you seek support on that level

So how much have the arab muslims had from the U.S. over the last 66 years then. I believe Saudi gets new American fighter planes every year, and their pilots are trained to fly them by American military instructors. Work out those costs alone ?

arms dealers love to finance both sides of conflicts..makes for double the profits...we should cut all of it...it is insanity especially when we barrow the money to lend from china

 

[Phoenall]

The world has never been bound to defend Israel - as a matter of fact, Muslim-dominated nations and peoples have been trying to kill it for 66 years, and another part of the world that is obliged to kiss Muslim ass, in order to obtain access to oil resources, has been enabling them all along.

Instead of Vetoing various UNSC measures over the next two years, the US will, in all likelihood, merely Abstain during some of those votes against Israel.

Until January 20, 2017, anyway.

The Israelis know that they merely need ride-out that interim, while our Lame Duck attempts to do more damage to the relationship, until things get better again.

A matter for some degree of concern, as an interim measure, but certainly not the end of the world.

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

Did I not say 'huge chunks'?

Which is far different from 'all'.

Meanwhile, the cost-to-manufacture is, no doubt, offset to a large extent on the macro level, by the creation of jobs and the domino effect of that returned money on the economy.

Besides...

They get good value for that money we give them.

They help to keep The Beast at bay, and the barbarians outside the gates, in that part of the world.

Money well spent.

arms dealers got money.. filthy lobbyist got money
the tax payer got debt borrowing money from china to give to Israel...pure madness

Then cut your spending and stop borrowing from China is the obvious answer. You can start with your $10 billion UN bill that goes to hamas and fatah

 

[eots]

The world was never defending Israel, they defend themselves and do a damn good job at it.

A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion
http://www.wrmea.org/2008-november/...timate-of-total-direct-u.s.-aid-to-israel-alm

Good link it comes out here


Heavens to Murgatroyd! An error has occurred.
The page you were searching for does not exist here.

The world has never been bound to defend Israel - as a matter of fact, Muslim-dominated nations and peoples have been trying to kill it for 66 years, and another part of the world that is obliged to kiss Muslim ass, in order to obtain access to oil resources, has been enabling them all along.

Instead of Vetoing various UNSC measures over the next two years, the US will, in all likelihood, merely Abstain during some of those votes against Israel.

Until January 20, 2017, anyway.

The Israelis know that they merely need ride-out that interim, while our Lame Duck attempts to do more damage to the relationship, until things get better again.

A matter for some degree of concern, as an interim measure, but certainly not the end of the world.

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

When you realise that the majority of that money is in the form of loans and is ring fenced for the purchase of American made goods only then you will see that America is in a win win situation

Great then Israel can barrow money from china and give it to us and we will buy some shit from them with it

 

[Phoenall]

A better question might be...why are certain American liberals pouring millions of dollars into Israeli trying to interfere with their political process and forcing Netanyahu to make last minute promises to far right conservatives in Israel to try and save the election? Why did Netanyahu have to "deceive" voters? Because American progressives backed him into a corner and engendered that response! All because Bibi won't play along with Barry's confused and naive Middle East policies.

No that would not be a better question..at all

Is that because you don't have an answer to that question?

when someone has taken billions and billions of dollars in a endless
cycle its is not interfering to try and encourage a solution..you involved ed the other party.we you seek support on that level

So how much have the arab muslims had from the U.S. over the last 66 years then. I believe Saudi gets new American fighter planes every year, and their pilots are trained to fly them by American military instructors. Work out those costs alone ?

arms dealers love to finance both sides of conflicts..makes for double the profits...we should cut all of it...it is insanity especially when we barrow the money to lend from china

Never heard of a buy to let scheme then. Where you get a loan to buy property and then let the property for more than the loan repayments. Means the loans cost you nothing in the long run.

 

[Kondor3]

Macro Econ anybody?

 

[eots]

good when do we get our 121 billion dollars back ?
cuz they never really needed right ?

Hell, we got-back huge chunks of that over the years already, in arms/weapons contracts.

thats like a store giving me free money, then me buying my groceries at the store with it and saying...well they got it all back,,no they didn't..the weapons bought cost money to make ..lol you make it sound like its profitable to give away money,,,if thats the case Israel can give us 3 billin dollars this year and we will buy some shit off them

Did I not say 'huge chunks'?

Which is far different from 'all'.

Meanwhile, the cost-to-manufacture is, no doubt, offset to a large extent on the macro level, by the creation of jobs and the domino effect of that returned money on the economy.

Besides...

They get good value for that money we give them.

They help to keep The Beast at bay, and the barbarians outside the gates, in that part of the world.

Money well spent.

arms dealers got money.. filthy lobbyist got money
the tax payer got debt borrowing money from china to give to Israel...pure madness

Then cut your spending and stop borrowing from China is the obvious answer. You can start with your $10 billion UN bill that goes to hamas and fatah

yes the U.S needs to be more frugal so we can make our welfare payments to Israel