Wildfires

[BULLDOG]

Just to be clear... NO CONTROLLED LABORATORY EXPERIMENT HAS EVER BEEN DONE THAT QUANTIFIES THE ASSOCIATED TEMPERATURE OF VARYING CO2 CONCENTRATIONS.

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Just to be clear... NO CONTROLED LABORATORY EXPERIMENT HAS EVER BEEN DONE THAT QUANTIFIES WHY SOME PREFER CHOCOLATE OVER VANILLA.

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Observation indicates it is a fact though.

 

[ding]

Just to be clear... NO CONTROLED LABORATORY EXPERIMENT HAS EVER BEEN DONE THAT QUANTIFIES WHY SOME PREFER CHOCOLATE OVER VANILLA.

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Observation indicates it is a fact though.

Incorrect. Falsely correlating atmospheric CO2 with natural climate fluctuations of an interglacial cycle doesn't prove anything. Where are the empirical test results? There are none. There should be.

 

[whitehall]

And you are a lying little ass. Here are the facts;

"Since 1880, the world has warmed by 1.9 degrees Fahrenheit (1.09 degrees Celsius), with the five warmest years on record occurring in the last five years. Since the 1980s, the wildfire season has lengthened across a quarter of the world's vegetated surface, and in some places like California, fire has become nearly a year-round risk. The year 2018 was California's worst wildfire season on record, on the heels of a devasting 2017 fire season. In 2019, wildfires have already burned 2.5 million acres in Alaska in an extreme fire season driven by high temperatures, which have also led to massive fires in Siberia.

Whether started naturally or by people, fires worldwide and the resulting smoke emissions and burned areas have been observed by NASA satellites from space for two decades. Combined with data collected and analyzed by scientists and forest managers on the ground, researchers at NASA, other U.S. agencies and universities are beginning to draw into focus the interplay between fires, climate and humans."

Satellite Data Record Shows Climate Change's Impact on Fires â Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Over the past several decades, as the world has increasingly warmed, so has its potential to burn.

climate.nasa.gov

There is no reliable data regarding the temperature on the entire globe in the 1880's. We were still fighting Indians and high tech instruments were limited to swinging a thermometer on a freaking string at that time. Therefore the data modern "scientists" use to advance the global warming theory consists mainly of speculation. .

 

[whitehall]

A scientific way of measuring the alleged temperature rise in the last 150 -250 years would be to make a detailed study of tropical and sub-tropical plants that have expanded their territory into so-called temperate zones. So far the number apparently remains at zero.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

More from the AGU;

Melts ice and causes wildfires.

Amazing

 

[skookerasbil]

Again....nobody is caring about the forest fires.

Nowhere discussed on social media. Nowhere to be found in the msm. Even CNN not caring. In the public domain, it's a snoozefest. People have waaaaaaay to much to worry about other than being concerned about fires that have been burning for billions of years.

 

[Old Rocks]

A scientific way of measuring the alleged temperature rise in the last 150 -250 years would be to make a detailed study of tropical and sub-tropical plants that have expanded their territory into so-called temperate zones. So far the number apparently remains at zero.

So far, you accuracy in posting remains at zero;

• Published: 02 January 2003

Fingerprints of global warming on wild animals and plants​

• Terry L. Root,
• Jeff T. Price,
• Kimberly R. Hall,
• Stephen H. Schneider,
• Cynthia Rosenzweig &
• J. Alan Pounds

Nature volume 421, pages57–60 (2003)Cite this article

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Abstract​

Over the past 100 years, the global average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 °C and is projected to continue to rise at a rapid rate1. Although species have responded to climatic changes throughout their evolutionary history2, a primary concern for wild species and their ecosystems is this rapid rate of change3. We gathered information on species and global warming from 143 studies for our meta-analyses. These analyses reveal a consistent temperature-related shift, or ‘fingerprint’, in species ranging from molluscs to mammals and from grasses to trees. Indeed, more than 80% of the species that show changes are shifting in the direction expected on the basis of known physiological constraints of species. Consequently, the balance of evidence from these studies strongly suggests that a significant impact of global warming is already discernible in animal and plant populations. The synergism of rapid temperature rise and other stresses, in particular habitat destruction, could easily disrupt the connectedness among species and lead to a reformulation of species communities, reflecting differential changes in species, and to numerous extirpations and possibly extinctions.

Fingerprints of global warming on wild animals and plants - Nature

Over the past 100 years, the global average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 °C and is projected to continue to rise at a rapid rate1. Although species have responded to climatic changes throughout their evolutionary history2, a primary concern for wild species and their ecosystems...

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[Old Rocks]

A scientific way of measuring the alleged temperature rise in the last 150 -250 years would be to make a detailed study of tropical and sub-tropical plants that have expanded their territory into so-called temperate zones. So far the number apparently remains at zero.

• Published: 31 May 2001

Climate change

Increasing shrub abundance in the Arctic​

• Matthew Sturm,
• Charles Racine &
• Kenneth Tape

Nature volume 411, pages546–547 (2001)Cite this article

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Abstract​

The warming of the Alaskan Arctic during the past 150 years1 has accelerated over the last three decades2 and is expected to increase vegetation productivity in tundra if shrubs become more abundant3,4; indeed, this transition may already be under way according to local plot studies5 and remote sensing6. Here we present evidence for a widespread increase in shrub abundance over more than 320 km2 of Arctic landscape during the past 50 years, based on a comparison of historic and modern aerial photographs. This expansion will alter the partitioning of energy in summer7 and the trapping and distribution of snow in winter8, as well as increasing the amount of carbon stored in a region that is believed to be a net source of carbon dioxide9.

Increasing shrub abundance in the Arctic - Nature

The warming of the Alaskan Arctic during the past 150 years1 has accelerated over the last three decades2 and is expected to increase vegetation productivity in tundra if shrubs become more abundant3,4; indeed, this transition may already be under way according to local plot studies5 and remote...

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[Old Rocks]

The evidence for shrub expansion in Northern Alaska and the Pan-Arctic​

KEN TAPE,MATTHEW STURM,CHARLES RACINE
First published: 24 March 2006

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One expected response to climate warming in the Arctic is an increase in the abundance and extent of shrubs in tundra areas. Repeat photography shows that there has been an increase in shrub cover over the past 50 years in northern Alaska. Using 202 pairs of old and new oblique aerial photographs, we have found that across this region spanning 620 km east to west and 350 km north to south, alder, willow, and dwarf birch have been increasing, with the change most easily detected on hill slopes and valley bottoms. Plot and remote sensing studies from the same region using the normalized difference vegetation index are consistent with the photographic results and indicate that the smaller shrubs between valleys are also increasing. In Canada, Scandinavia, and parts of Russia, there is both plot and remote sensing evidence for shrub expansion. Combined with the Alaskan results, the evidence suggests that a pan-Arctic vegetation transition is underway. If continued, this transition will alter the fundamental architecture and function of this ecosystem with important ramifications for the climate, the biota, and humans.

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[Old Rocks]

Again....nobody is caring about the forest fires.

Nowhere discussed on social media. Nowhere to be found in the msm. Even CNN not caring. In the public domain, it's a snoozefest. People have waaaaaaay to much to worry about other than being concerned about fires that have been burning for billions of years.

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Tell about 1000 families in Colorado that, asshole.

 

[ding]

Tell about 1000 families in Colorado that, asshole.

I'm pretty sure they know that forest fires are natural and not caused by atmospheric CO2.

I had a flat today. That was probably due to CO2 too.

 

[skookerasbil]

"shrub abundance"

 

[Old Rocks]

You have wrongly correlated natural climate variations with CO2. Climate fluctuations and environmental uncertainty are hallmarks of our bipolar glaciated world.

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Hmmmmmmmmmm............................... Are you claiming that the increasing intelligence of our species and related species is the cause of a warming climate? In that case, it is obvious that you are aiding with the cooling.

 

[Old Rocks]

Very telling, we have all the dumb fucks here denying that anything at all is happening, and then we have the scientists at the AGU convention telling us that things are changing big time and rapidly. Oh, who to believe. LOL

 

[skookerasbil]

Very telling, we have all the dumb fucks here denying that anything at all is happening, and then we have the scientists at the AGU convention telling us that things are changing big time and rapidly. Oh, who to believe. LOL

Actually, people with both feet planted firmly on the ground know with 100% certainty that you cant do dick about the forest fires except to properly manage the land.....which often is badly mismanaged.

And youve been spewing shit in here for ten years, "things are changing big time". No they're not.....same shit happening as 10 years ago.

And heres the thing.........most people in the world dont notice paint drying. Thats the thing the climate obsessed dont ever get.

Youre not at all a big picture guy......most people are. Thats why nobody gives a shit about the forest fires. How do we know? Because you were saying he same tired boring shit 10 years ago and nothing has changed......because nobody cares.

The dumb fucks win.

 

[ding]

Hmmmmmmmmmm............................... Are you claiming that the increasing intelligence of our species and related species is the cause of a warming climate? In that case, it is obvious that you are aiding with the cooling.

No. That's not what I am claiming. You don't possess the intellect to understand my claim even though it's been explained to you dozens of times.

 

[Woodznutz]

Actually, people with both feet planted firmly on the ground know with 100% certainty that you cant do dick about the forest fires except to properly manage the land.....which often is badly mismanaged.

And youve been spewing shit in here for ten years, "things are changing big time". No they're not.....same shit happening as 10 years ago.

And heres the thing.........most people in the world dont notice paint drying. Thats the thing the climate obsessed dont ever get.

Youre not at all a big picture guy......most people are. Thats why nobody gives a shit about the forest fires. How do we know? Because you were saying he same tired boring shit 10 years ago and nothing has changed......because nobody cares.

The dumb fucks win.

That nobody cares about wildfires is quite a spectacle. In fact we are entertained on all sides by such spectacles.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Not just Colorado, but Kansas also. The damage done by the wildfires is increasing decade by decade, around the world.

NASA doesn't agree with you:

From NASA (the data) is this chart showing a DECLINE since the beginning of the century:

LINK

 

[Old Rocks]

NASA doesn't agree with you:

From NASA (the data) is this chart showing a DECLINE since the beginning of the century:

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LINK

Really?

Satellite Data Record Shows Climate Change's Impact on Fires â Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Over the past several decades, as the world has increasingly warmed, so has its potential to burn.

climate.nasa.gov

 

[Sunsettommy]

Really?

Satellite Data Record Shows Climate Change's Impact on Fires â Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Over the past several decades, as the world has increasingly warmed, so has its potential to burn.

climate.nasa.gov

Ha Ha Ha... what I posted is from NASA using the Satellite data to show the decline, you didn't address it at all, just a deflection to an article that doesn't contradict it.

From NASA Earth Observatory

Researchers Detect a Global Drop in Fires​

Excerpt:

"Globally, the total acreage burned by fires declined 24 percent between 1998 and 2015, according to a new paper published in Science. Scientists determined that the decline in burned area was greatest in savannas and grasslands, where fires are essential for maintaining healthy ecosystems and habitat conservation.

The map above, based on data from the international research team, shows annual trends in burned area over the study period. Blues represent areas where the trend was toward less burning, whether natural or human-caused, while red areas had more burning. The line plot shows the annual fluctuations in global burned area and the overall downward trend. The research team, led by Niels Andela of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, analyzed fire data derived from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) instruments on NASA’s Terra and Aqua satellites. They then compared these data sets with regional and global trends in agriculture and socio-economic development."

LINK

red bolding mine

The NASA created chart in the link destroys your silly deflection.