Wikileak'd video shows eager-to-kill troops firing on Reuters reporters and children

[Neser Boha]

Holy SHIT! I can't believe it! bent tight, the menstrual drippings-panty-stain lying ***** actually more or less manned up and admitted that he was wrong!

I'm shocked.

I pains me to have to say this, but kudos to bent tight for at least having found the nadz to admit it at least this one time.

Now, in response to that last "question," I was referring to the very same video, but the weapon that got tossed was NOT an IED. So (like that misfired memory of mine that had the action taking place on the other side of the screen), I got the IED part wrong, too, it appears. It was a weapon, but it was evidently not an IED.

Oh, and the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it. I did have prior knowledge of the video Jos posted, so that video I felt free to comment on.

Okay.....I don't give a rat's about any other video so now that the confusion is cleared up will you be responding to this op? (btw, this is not the first time I've admitted to an error on my part Snitch ***** but thanks)

That whiny ***** crimson keeps prancing about an unedited version of the op video but I posted the link for the full 38 minute video and.......nothing. The video is not from PP. It is from:

Http://www.collateralmurder.com

It even has the full transcript.

For some absurd reason, the leaky panty liner, bent tight, now asks me "will you be responding to this op?" RIGHT after I had JUST finished saying, "the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it."

bent tight, you aren't very bright.

The video in the OP is PRISON PLANET's video. You know, the one where that smegma faced jackal pontificates that all of us are responsible for the allegedly illegal murderous actions supposedly depicted in the video. Of course, it still hasn't been established to my satisfaction that the idiots who got taken out -- as shown in that video -- weren't highly deserving of what they got.

I don't know if the "children" were actually in the vehicle or not, but I saw and heard no evidence suggesting that they were known to be children. And it is pretty ******* stupid and callous to drive children into a dangerous war zone that's just been lit-up.

I have not viewed any 38 minute video. Frankly, I'm not planning on it.

Yeah, because you couldn't give two shits if US soldiers shoot indiscriminately whatever moves - including children. You just spent several hours fighting on this thread over - essentially - nothing, but you won't view the horrifying video in question. Because you are not actually interested in the topics, you just want to yell insults at people and act like a little *****.

 

[Neser Boha]

Holy SHIT! I can't believe it! bent tight, the menstrual drippings-panty-stain lying ***** actually more or less manned up and admitted that he was wrong!

I'm shocked.

I pains me to have to say this, but kudos to bent tight for at least having found the nadz to admit it at least this one time.

Now, in response to that last "question," I was referring to the very same video, but the weapon that got tossed was NOT an IED. So (like that misfired memory of mine that had the action taking place on the other side of the screen), I got the IED part wrong, too, it appears. It was a weapon, but it was evidently not an IED.

Oh, and the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it. I did have prior knowledge of the video Jos posted, so that video I felt free to comment on.

Okay.....I don't give a rat's about any other video so now that the confusion is cleared up will you be responding to this op? (btw, this is not the first time I've admitted to an error on my part Snitch ***** but thanks)

That whiny ***** crimson keeps prancing about an unedited version of the op video but I posted the link for the full 38 minute video and.......nothing. The video is not from PP. It is from:

Http://www.collateralmurder.com

It even has the full transcript.

I hadn't seen it yet, because you know, I have a real job.

Wow, I'd love to have your 'real job.' When I'm at work I have hardly time for a lunch break, but this joker chats on message boards during his working time and calls it a 'real job.' I wonder how long before you get fired or 'laid off' for mysterious reasons.

 

[QUENTIN]

Okay.....I don't give a rat's about any other video so now that the confusion is cleared up will you be responding to this op? (btw, this is not the first time I've admitted to an error on my part Snitch ***** but thanks)

That whiny ***** crimson keeps prancing about an unedited version of the op video but I posted the link for the full 38 minute video and.......nothing. The video is not from PP. It is from:

Http://www.collateralmurder.com

It even has the full transcript.

For some absurd reason, the leaky panty liner, bent tight, now asks me "will you be responding to this op?" RIGHT after I had JUST finished saying, "the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it."

bent tight, you aren't very bright.

The video in the OP is PRISON PLANET's video. You know, the one where that smegma faced jackal pontificates that all of us are responsible for the allegedly illegal murderous actions supposedly depicted in the video. Of course, it still hasn't been established to my satisfaction that the idiots who got taken out -- as shown in that video -- weren't highly deserving of what they got.

I don't know if the "children" were actually in the vehicle or not, but I saw and heard no evidence suggesting that they were known to be children. And it is pretty ******* stupid and callous to drive children into a dangerous war zone that's just been lit-up.

I have not viewed any 38 minute video. Frankly, I'm not planning on it.

Yeah, because you couldn't give two shits if US soldiers shoot indiscriminately whatever moves - including children. You just spent several hours fighting on this thread over - essentially - nothing, but you won't view the horrifying video in question. Because you are not actually interested in the topics, you just want to yell insults at people and act like a little *****.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen kane clapping.gif

The mix of "You all are anti-america fags for having an uninformed opinion based on an edited video" and "Well I don't care if the whole video is out there and released and you've seen it, I'm not gonna watch it" is pretty telling.

They don't want to see what it shows, they don't care about the truth if it gets in the way of their preconceived notions. They're gonna defend U.S. troops in a "war zone" of their creation, even if those troops mow down a group of civilians and journalists and children, because to them the U.S. is always right and occupied foreign people are always wrong, period. **** the darkies, rah rah rah!

 

[editec]

A very disturbing video, this is.

Way to win hearts and minds there, troops.

It's crap like this that are making the USA a pariah nation.

 

[CurveLight]

Holy SHIT! I can't believe it! bent tight, the menstrual drippings-panty-stain lying ***** actually more or less manned up and admitted that he was wrong!

I'm shocked.

I pains me to have to say this, but kudos to bent tight for at least having found the nadz to admit it at least this one time.

Now, in response to that last "question," I was referring to the very same video, but the weapon that got tossed was NOT an IED. So (like that misfired memory of mine that had the action taking place on the other side of the screen), I got the IED part wrong, too, it appears. It was a weapon, but it was evidently not an IED.

Oh, and the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it. I did have prior knowledge of the video Jos posted, so that video I felt free to comment on.

Okay.....I don't give a rat's about any other video so now that the confusion is cleared up will you be responding to this op? (btw, this is not the first time I've admitted to an error on my part Snitch ***** but thanks)

That whiny ***** crimson keeps prancing about an unedited version of the op video but I posted the link for the full 38 minute video and.......nothing. The video is not from PP. It is from:

Http://www.collateralmurder.com

It even has the full transcript.

For some absurd reason, the leaky panty liner, bent tight, now asks me "will you be responding to this op?" RIGHT after I had JUST finished saying, "the reason I haven't said much about the original post -- and the prison-planet video linked in that OP -- is precisely because I don't know very much about it."

bent tight, you aren't very bright.

The video in the OP is PRISON PLANET's video. You know, the one where that smegma faced jackal pontificates that all of us are responsible for the allegedly illegal murderous actions supposedly depicted in the video. Of course, it still hasn't been established to my satisfaction that the idiots who got taken out -- as shown in that video -- weren't highly deserving of what they got.

I don't know if the "children" were actually in the vehicle or not, but I saw and heard no evidence suggesting that they were known to be children. And it is pretty ******* stupid and callous to drive children into a dangerous war zone that's just been lit-up.

I have not viewed any 38 minute video. Frankly, I'm not planning on it.

The original source of the video is not PP which is why I linked the source to specifically remove your easily predictable attempt at avoiding addressing the facts.

I asked if you "will be" responding because I wanted to show you run like a little Snitch ***** every time you get a whiff of facts you don't like. The most revealing aspect of your response is defending the slaughter while admitting you've not reviewed the facts and you plan on not doing it. Sadly, there are a lot of punks like you who form your positions based purely on emotion. If physical properties reflected mental maturity you'd still be in a womb.

 

[CurveLight]

Okay.....I don't give a rat's about any other video so now that the confusion is cleared up will you be responding to this op? (btw, this is not the first time I've admitted to an error on my part Snitch ***** but thanks)

That whiny ***** crimson keeps prancing about an unedited version of the op video but I posted the link for the full 38 minute video and.......nothing. The video is not from PP. It is from:

Http://www.collateralmurder.com

It even has the full transcript.

I hadn't seen it yet, because you know, I have a real job.

Wow, I'd love to have your 'real job.' When I'm at work I have hardly time for a lunch break, but this joker chats on message boards during his working time and calls it a 'real job.' I wonder how long before you get fired or 'laid off' for mysterious reasons.

CW is Gunny
with half the brains and none of the courage. I doubt we will ever see the phantom "unedited" version and even though the pentagon has confirmed the video is authentic that doesn't stop rabid Nationalists from closing their eyes and screaming in vain hoping their mousy shrills will retard everyone else's ability to be honest.

 

[Nonelitist]

You dems want to let the bad guys walk around in a war zone with rpgs and weapons and you don't know why you are considered to be weak on defense?

You want them to shoot at our soldiers first and you wonder why you are considered weak?

HA


You claim that you care about the soldiers hurt or killed in Iraq and it is you and those like you that make it harder for them to be successful.

These men were carrying weapons.. that has been confirmed. They did what they were supposed to do.

Pull your heads out of your asses and stop hating the US so much... you really are sickening.

 

[geauxtohell]

They did not follow ROE. At. All. Here is the direct link showing the 38 minute version.

Http://www.collateralmurder.org/

Never mind I had to post the info showing the full version. Just show where they were engaged that justified firing on the civilians. (state the exact time from the video.)

Thanks.

I've watched the whole video (not the selective edits).

When does the ROE require that someone has to be engaged first before they fire? I've defended the necessity of the ROE numerous times, but I would never defend a ROE that stringent. It's "perceived danger". That is even more shaky when you are talking about CAS whose mission is to find and eliminate targets to provide clearance for a ground element.

The fact that they were civilians was not known to the pilots at the time. They either had, or thought they had, eyes-on Ak-47s and RPGs. . In Afghanistan, having an AK-47 did not justify engagement as they were legal. However, an RPG was instant clearance to engage. You didn't have to wait for someone to fire the ****** at you.

Also, at one point in the video one of the helicopters either was or thought they were taking ground fire. So either the pilots, knowing that he whole incident would be on film, made up a script or they made a mistake (or maybe they didn't. Reporters embed with insurgents too). It's regrettable, but mistakes like this happen in combat. It's why some of us (and I know it includes you, but it also includes me) adamantly opposed Iraq. We k now this was the nasty reality of it.

Obviously the Army investigated the incident and to my knowledge didn't feel that the pilots violated the ROE.

As for the pilot's cavalier attitude about engaging something they perceived to be a target, that's the attitude I'd expect from them.

As for them being callous about the children, that's a defense mechanism.

This isn't a My Lai type of incident where military personnel intended to kill innocents.

My only hope is that the jackasses that supported this war and are horrified from seeing this in their living rooms have a moment of introspection.

But I doubt it.

 

[geauxtohell]

Wow some isolated incidents that no doubt were dealt with by court-marshalls. War is war and there are always some moronic soldiers in every war!

Funny a douche bag antiamerican communist such as yourself and the dumbass in your propaganda piece will nitpik and pull out every little incident and state this is the common place. These incidents are far from the norm.

YouTube - Wikileaks video shows eager-to-kill troops firing on Reuters reporters and children

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

 

[geauxtohell]

I doubt we will ever see the phantom "unedited" version and even though the pentagon has confirmed the video is authentic that doesn't stop rabid Nationalists from closing their eyes and screaming in vain hoping their mousy shrills will retard everyone else's ability to be honest.

The "unedited version" doesn't include a transcript telling you what was really going on at the time, arrows and bubbles to highlight reporters, and close up enhancement to show children in the passengers seat of a van.

This stuff happens in real time and is, and always has been, the nature of war. What do you think a video of Tokyo would have shown when we firebombed it?

There is no refining it.

It's convenient for people to sit here and second guess people now. However, it is not realistic. The intent of these pilots was not to kill civilians.

 

[Nonelitist]

Wow some isolated incidents that no doubt were dealt with by court-marshalls. War is war and there are always some moronic soldiers in every war!

Funny a douche bag antiamerican communist such as yourself and the dumbass in your propaganda piece will nitpik and pull out every little incident and state this is the common place. These incidents are far from the norm.

YouTube - Wikileaks video shows eager-to-kill troops firing on Reuters reporters and children

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

 

[geauxtohell]

Wow some isolated incidents that no doubt were dealt with by court-marshalls. War is war and there are always some moronic soldiers in every war!

Funny a douche bag antiamerican communist such as yourself and the dumbass in your propaganda piece will nitpik and pull out every little incident and state this is the common place. These incidents are far from the norm.

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

I don't think the reporters being with the insurgents makes them "enemies". Reporters cover both sides of the battle. If there were weapons on site after these guys were engaged and they were insurgents, it's just shitty luck that the reporter was with them.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Wow some isolated incidents that no doubt were dealt with by court-marshalls. War is war and there are always some moronic soldiers in every war!

Funny a douche bag antiamerican communist such as yourself and the dumbass in your propaganda piece will nitpik and pull out every little incident and state this is the common place. These incidents are far from the norm.

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

 

[Nonelitist]

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

Naturally, as a Liberal, you believe the enemies of the United States in EVERY case before your own country.

That, sir, would identify you as a hater of your own country.

 

[Neser Boha]

Wow some isolated incidents that no doubt were dealt with by court-marshalls. War is war and there are always some moronic soldiers in every war!

Funny a douche bag antiamerican communist such as yourself and the dumbass in your propaganda piece will nitpik and pull out every little incident and state this is the common place. These incidents are far from the norm.

Why would they be court martialed or reprimanded for doing their duty?

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

You are missing a link to support your claims.

 

[geauxtohell]

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

Once you play the "conspiracy card", there really isn't much point in proceeding any further.

I don't find it as germane anyways. If the pilots perceived a threat to the ground element, it was their mission to engage.

If they made a mistake, then "shit happens". In combat that equates to death and destruction of innocents.

I am not being callous about the matter, I am just being realistic.

I don't really see the rub here by the people that opposed the war. We all knew/know scores of innocents would be/were killed in Iraq.

Now we are seeing the business end of the matter.

There are probably years worth of similar tapes. It's tragic. It shouldn't be surprising.

As I said, this is a far cry form My Lai where soldiers intended to kill innocents.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Military investigated... found numerous weapons, including at least 3 RPG's. Even the editor of the site the video was posted on had to admit that they had weapons.


Thats really all that needs to be known. These weren't innocents. The photographers weren't innocents either... they were hanging out with Terrorists in clothing that didn't identify them as photographers or press.

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

Naturally, as a Liberal, you believe the enemies of the United States in EVERY case before your own country.

That, sir, would identify you as a hater of your own country.

The US military has come out and said that they were unarmed and that their was a cover-up.

 

[Neser Boha]

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

Once you play the "conspiracy card", there really isn't much point in proceeding any further.

I don't find it as germane anyways. If the pilots perceived a threat to the ground element, it was their mission to engage.

If they made a mistake, then "shit happens". In combat that equates to death and destruction of innocents.

I am not being callous about the matter, I am just being realistic.

I don't really see the rub here by the people that opposed the war. We all knew/know scores of innocents would be/were killed in Iraq.

Now we are seeing the business end of the matter.

There are probably years worth of similar tapes. It's tragic. It shouldn't be surprising.

As I said, this is a far cry form My Lai where soldiers intended to kill innocents.

Well, this is quite shocking to people that have never been present in a combat situation and who are not used to such comments as "Look at all these dead bastards." "Let us shoot!" or "Pick up the gun!" just so he had an excuse to shoot him to death or laugh when a bradley vehicle runs over one of the dead bodies ... or just dismiss shooting of two innocent children as "Well, he shouldn't have brought his kids to the battle."

Sorry, most civilized people that don't have shit for morals and brains don't consider this very kosher and are rather REPULSED by it.

I'm just being realistic here.

 

[Neser Boha]

Kinda like how some pregnant women had AK-47s.... but then it came out that they didn't and it was a cover-up?

Naturally, the military is now trying to claim they found more than they actually did in order to save face. It's not the first time.

Naturally, as a Liberal, you believe the enemies of the United States in EVERY case before your own country.

That, sir, would identify you as a hater of your own country.

The US military has come out and said that they were unarmed and that their was a cover-up.

Link. Reference. Substantiation. Thanks.

 

[boedicca]

The US military has come out and said that they were unarmed and that their was a cover-up.

Where?

Your claim is not consistent with the investigatory reports:

6--2nd Brigade Combat Team 15-6 Investigation

Agreement