Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...
It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...
This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...
It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.
She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...
Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!
Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?
For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!
You're not interested in other views at all.
Here is what I see here.
Both Daniyel and I are Israeli. Both of us know very well the situation in Israel. While we hold strong opinions that may be against yours (but isn't it the whole idea of debating?) you can indeed learn from our point of view instead looking hours on youtube for opinion that are so conviniently suiting yours.
You had and have the opportinity to ask questions about things that interest you. Most of Anti-Zionist on board had. Yet you chose not to do so, and when we try to point out logical things we're usually called "hasbarats" or some other nonsense, because the overly active anti-Israeli brain can not grasp that Israelis also have some insight that might be helpful.
So again, I ask, why her opinion matters and mine and Daniyel not? is it because you're more convinient with those opinions or because in the first place you're not really interested in listening?
Just curious
Strangely enough I am interested in ALL views..
No I am not Israeli and I am not some dumbass, gung ho, 'bomb the bastards' American either.
You will see that I didn't post this video link. I don't spend hours searching out opinion that best suits my own. What would the point be in that?
I do indeed learn from pro Israeli opinion and, through my own research, have found a lot of information that supports both Israel and Palestine. I take both opinions onboard. It's a shame that others are not able to do this.
It is quite interesting you're mentioning the word "debating"...
Generally speaking, and you and I have had our little spats in the past, there is NO form of debating here... It is 'black and white' debating neither pro Israeli nor pro Palestine really debate anything... It's mostly shouting the latest opinion from both sides.
A debate requires listening, requires understanding and then debating.
Because opinions on this forum are poles apart, the hatred on this forum blocks any form of debate.
Accusations, insults and mud slinging are not good forms of debate.
Assumptions, of which there are a great many, only go to fuel the hatred.
You see, I never even suggested that the opinion given in the video has more validity than yours.
I asked you a few days ago to show me a post where, you told me, I had threatened you. You either chose to ignore or simply couldn't find. I put my money on couldn't find.
This forum is little more than an Israeli/Palestinian cyber conflict with no solution.
Whilst neither side is prepared to listen, to debate, there will be no peace in this cyber conflict.
Hmmm that sounds familiar!
And to finish off, there are often assumptions made on ones validity to even have an opinion, normally based upon whether one has been to the region. For me this is a pretty mute point and one that has no bearing on whether you can have an opinion or not. I haven't been to the moon but I don't believe that there are aliens inhabiting the moon...
However, I have visited the middle east on several occasions. I have been to Israel and many muslim countries... I have spoken with REAL people about the conflict, about their beliefs, about the solutions... I come to the conclusion that the MAJORITY whether Jew, Muslim, Christian simply want to get on with their lives and not be taken from one conflict to another by their leaders. Doesn't seem to be too much to ask does it?
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