Why US and Israel wants to ban this video...

Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...

It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...

This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...

It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.

She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...

Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!

Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?

For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!

You say she doesn't appear to be a useful idiot.

Well, she IS useful to your cause or else you all wouldn't be offering her up as a propaganda spokesperson for Americans to listen to and believe.

And if she fails to see the Palestinians as the racist, Jihadist intransigents they are she is an idiot.

Therefore she is a useful idiot.

And you are wrong.

In more ways than ONE!

My cause?

What would my cause be exactly?

Insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence...

If I am so wrong in more ways than one then please enlighten me!

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I am neither American nor Israeli...

I consider that a positive thing as I do see when BOTH sides are racist bigots...
 
Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...

It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...

This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...

It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.

She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...

Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!

Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?

For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!

You say she doesn't appear to be a useful idiot.

Well, she IS useful to your cause or else you all wouldn't be offering her up as a propaganda spokesperson for Americans to listen to and believe.

And if she fails to see the Palestinians as the racist, Jihadist intransigents they are she is an idiot.

Therefore she is a useful idiot.

And you are wrong.

In more ways than ONE!

My cause?

What would my cause be exactly?

Insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence...

If I am so wrong in more ways than one then please enlighten me!

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I am neither American nor Israeli...

I consider that a positive thing as I do see when BOTH sides are racist bigots...
Free Palestine? Antisemitism? Anti-Israel? who knows, but for now it does works well.
 
That's quite a presentation she's giving!

I can see why the pro-Israeli crowd is uncomfortable with this video. It is a thoughtful, common sense documentary, from a non-Muslim woman, who went to the West Bank to see for herself what was all the fuss about and found it has nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with "land".

I liked how she presented the issue of all the checkpoints and roadblocks in the West Bank.



Noting that the majority of them are "not" along the Israeli border, but inside the West Bank restricting the movement of Palestinian's "only".



With the vehicle on the right (being Palestinian) stopped at the checkpoint and the vehicle on the left (being Israeli) able to drive on through without stopping.

And this is the case even during life threatening emergencies, when the checkpoint guards stop an ambulance...



...just to let normal Israeli traffic go by.

Even stopping them at the point of a gun.



I also liked following that picture, how she addresses the issue of Palestinian ambulances carrying weapons (which is the normal Israeli excuse for stopping them), by saying she looked into that charge and could only find one recorded event where that had occurred. Just one!

She also goes on to make the point (by inferring) that even if there were weapons, that the majority of these checkpoints are "inside" the WB and not along the Israeli border, so they (the Israeli's) are not preventing weapons from going into Israel, but are restricting the movement of Palestinian's going from a Palestinian town, to another Palestinian town.

By not allowing the van carrying weapons to pass (in that particular situation that has only occurred once), the Israeli's are basically saying the Pals do not have the right to defend themselves.

And this is different than the US-Mexico border how exactly? Though not crossing into Mexico I was stopped near the border on the US side and asked for ID in my Mazda with California plates by a officer with a gun.

 
Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...

It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...

This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...

It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.

She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...

Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!

Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?

For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!

You say she doesn't appear to be a useful idiot.

Well, she IS useful to your cause or else you all wouldn't be offering her up as a propaganda spokesperson for Americans to listen to and believe.

And if she fails to see the Palestinians as the racist, Jihadist intransigents they are she is an idiot.

Therefore she is a useful idiot.

And you are wrong.

In more ways than ONE!

My cause?

What would my cause be exactly?

Insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence...

If I am so wrong in more ways than one then please enlighten me!

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I am neither American nor Israeli...

I consider that a positive thing as I do see when BOTH sides are racist bigots...

Your cause is, "FREE PALESTINE," is it not? Or are you renting out your sig space to some Palestinian supporters who posted this animated graphic in protest to your own political leanings:

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You are correct, however, about "insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence..."


Finally, what if your assumptions about the conflict are mistaken?
 
I understand that this video is long (almost an hour within a few seconds) but please do take the time to view it for a realistic presentation on what truly is and has taken place on Palestinian owned land. Thank you. ~ Susan
PS View it in segments if you must, but please view it.







ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA from some moronic half wit that would be amongst the first to run screaming if she had to face the rockets every day. No mention of the many thousands of dead Israelis many of which were children that were the cause of the occupation. No mention of the fact that many Israelis are fighting for their lives every day against cowardly Palestinians that fire from hiding. No mention of the effects of suicide bombers many of them young girls and boys. So one sided as to be almost a script written by the hamas propaganda machine .

By the way who purchased the land for the Palestinians as the LoN did not pass it into their ownership, but into the Jews. So do produce the evidence that it was ever Palestinian owned land ?



I want a link and don't go giving me a 1948 link to the LON. Jews were moving there earlier, and yes they did pay a few bucks for some land when was not be used (I had read) but it was mainly swamp land, so obviously they never thought they owned it. Never have I read how much land, where it was, and how much was paid for it, so either give a link or give it a rest and it a null an mute point. The LON says nothing.





The LoN says it all as they acquired all of Palestine and some as spoils of war in 1919 from the Ottomans. This was the last time land as spoils of war was allowed and the ownership of the land passed into LoN hands. The LoN partitioned the land into 3 separate states initially Syria, Iraq and THE RESURECTED NATIONAL HOME OF THE JEWS, but this led to problems so they created a fourth partition and named it trans Jordan. These were the arab muslims lands given freely and without charge, just as what is now Palestine was given to the Jews freely and without charge. The arab muslims did not have any legal claim to the land of Palestine as it was given to the Jews . This is a matter of historical fact, and even the UN agreed that this was the case when it missed out any mention of the Palestinians in many of its resolutions. It still today sees Palestine as a landless nation without free determination because it refuses to govern itself.
 
Very good video. That is why we all have to write our reps and senators and let them know we are sick of sending our hard earned money to Israel.(of course all except for the Zionist lovers) Zionism is a mean horrible disease in the brain of Zionist. (something very wrong with them)




Will you also write and demand that the US stop all aid to Islamic terrorist entities that far exceed that given to Israel. In your demands will you also be pledging to support the US defence industry to the tune of $6 billion a year in lost Israeli revenue, and the $500,000,000 in interest on loans to Israel .

Will you tell all those wives and children that it is because you are a RABID JEW HATING RIGHT WING NAZI that they can no longer afford to live in their house and pay their local taxes
 
Not that I know of but thank you for asking. The perspective of what the Palestinians are going through is presented by a beautiful, young, Jewish-American woman. ~ Susan
That's quite a presentation she's giving!

I can see why the pro-Israeli crowd is uncomfortable with this video. It is a thoughtful, common sense documentary, from a non-Muslim woman, who went to the West Bank to see for herself what was all the fuss about and found it has nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with "land".

I liked how she presented the issue of all the checkpoints and roadblocks in the West Bank.



Noting that the majority of them are "not" along the Israeli border, but inside the West Bank restricting the movement of Palestinian's "only".



With the vehicle on the right (being Palestinian) stopped at the checkpoint and the vehicle on the left (being Israeli) able to drive on through without stopping.

And this is the case even during life threatening emergencies, when the checkpoint guards stop an ambulance...



...just to let normal Israeli traffic go by.

Even stopping them at the point of a gun.



I also liked following that picture, how she addresses the issue of Palestinian ambulances carrying weapons (which is the normal Israeli excuse for stopping them), by saying she looked into that charge and could only find one recorded event where that had occurred. Just one!

She also goes on to make the point (by inferring) that even if there were weapons, that the majority of these checkpoints are "inside" the WB and not along the Israeli border, so they (the Israeli's) are not preventing weapons from going into Israel, but are restricting the movement of Palestinian's going from a Palestinian town, to another Palestinian town.

By not allowing the van carrying weapons to pass (in that particular situation that has only occurred once), the Israeli's are basically saying the Pals do not have the right to defend themselves.





And are legal under the Geneva conventions and International law to prevent attacks on Israeli civilians. She may have only found one instance of an ambulance carrying weapons but the reports are many coming from the UNWRA themselves.
You being a NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATING ISLAMONAZI APOLOGIST cant see this as your vision is blinded by your Jew hatred.

Why don't you just stop writing BS, you racist Gentile hater. I am getting so tired of your psychopathic lying.




Then produce in full the Geneva convention that says the occupation is illegal and the checkpoints are illegal. Or can you only choose the tiny parts that suit your ISLAMONAZI RACIST JEW HATRED.
 
Nobody care about this video - just for the record.

Most Gentiles care about this video. Only Americans support Israeli crimes.


I care about that video, and I'm an American and I find the Zionist in Israel beyond words and I'm very disappointed in the US for overlooking their war crimes.



How about some evidence of these alleged war crimes, say an arrest warrant from the ICJ or ICC
 
I understand that this video is long (almost an hour within a few seconds) but please do take the time to view it for a realistic presentation on what truly is and has taken place on Palestinian owned land. Thank you. ~ Susan
PS View it in segments if you must, but please view it.




What is a "Palestinian" and why do you feel they own any land?
 
Nobody care about this video - just for the record.

Most Gentiles care about this video. Only Americans support Israeli crimes.


I care about that video, and I'm an American and I find the Zionist in Israel beyond words and I'm very disappointed in the US for overlooking their war crimes.



How about some evidence of these alleged war crimes, say an arrest warrant from the ICJ or ICC

You just saw them play out on TV not long ago, what were you doing sleeping.

I expect them to help rebuild all they destroyed, and just like with the Germans, they need to pay for suffering and loss artwork many may of had. Also for the deaths and the lingering injuries that some may have to suffer a lifetime for. Then we can talk about what this had done to the children, the psychological effects, that surely must be worth a lot.
 
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I understand that this video is long (almost an hour within a few seconds) but please do take the time to view it for a realistic presentation on what truly is and has taken place on Palestinian owned land. Thank you. ~ Susan
PS View it in segments if you must, but please view it.




What is a "Palestinian" and why do you feel they own any land?


What's a Isralite and why do you think they feel they own any land?
 
A small but militarily powerful minority of the people of the world support Israel's apartheid and criminal behavior. It is the many useful idiots that post here that make it seem that everyone is as delusional as most Americans vis-a-vis Israel.

Reduced to the basics, ignoring the Israeli propaganda and lies, what happened is that a large percentage of Muslims and Christians living in Palestine for generations were evicted by European Jews and are now in a world-wide diaspora, in camps or in the Israeli controlled Gulags of Gaza and the West Bank. The offspring of the people that were evicted want the land and homes back. Their numbers are growing to the point that today Israeli Jews rule over and control a non-Jewish population larger than the Jewish population. That never works in the long term.

The Jews can repeat the lies over and over again, but most of the world recognizes the truth.
 
The Jews can repeat the lies over and over again, but most of the world recognizes the truth.
Anti-Semites can repeat the lies over and over again, but most of the world already know the truth.
 
Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...

It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...

This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...

It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.

She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...

Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!

Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?

For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!

You say she doesn't appear to be a useful idiot.

Well, she IS useful to your cause or else you all wouldn't be offering her up as a propaganda spokesperson for Americans to listen to and believe.

And if she fails to see the Palestinians as the racist, Jihadist intransigents they are she is an idiot.

Therefore she is a useful idiot.

And you are wrong.

In more ways than ONE!

My cause?

What would my cause be exactly?

Insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence...

If I am so wrong in more ways than one then please enlighten me!

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I am neither American nor Israeli...

I consider that a positive thing as I do see when BOTH sides are racist bigots...
Free Palestine? Antisemitism? Anti-Israel? who knows, but for now it does works well.

Free Palestine for sure...

An anti-Semite? Never!

Anti-Israel? Not really... Have your piece of 'paradise'...

I am anti Israel policy though!
 
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Its a nicely presented video, the young lady is very eloquently putting across what she has experienced and making a few assumptions, but nicely presented...

It's unfortunate that it does become a little bit like the normal 'propaganda'...

This video is mostly factual but does cross over from an account of personal experience to propaganda...

It's more unfortunate the pro Israel supporters here are coming out with insults and abuse aimed toward the narrator.

She doesn't appear to be a "moronic half wit", "ISLAMONAZI", "useful idiot"...

Rather than simply throwing insults why not challenge what he claims she has witnessed? Offer evidence that proves her claims as false!

Is the abuse and insults simply because pro Israel supporters are embarrassed that these facts are being made public and are undeniable?

For my short time here on this forum, that does appear to be the case, often!

You say she doesn't appear to be a useful idiot.

Well, she IS useful to your cause or else you all wouldn't be offering her up as a propaganda spokesperson for Americans to listen to and believe.

And if she fails to see the Palestinians as the racist, Jihadist intransigents they are she is an idiot.

Therefore she is a useful idiot.

And you are wrong.

In more ways than ONE!

My cause?

What would my cause be exactly?

Insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence...

If I am so wrong in more ways than one then please enlighten me!

As was pointed out in an earlier post, I am neither American nor Israeli...

I consider that a positive thing as I do see when BOTH sides are racist bigots...

Your cause is, "FREE PALESTINE," is it not? Or are you renting out your sig space to some Palestinian supporters who posted this animated graphic in protest to your own political leanings:

flag


You are correct, however, about "insulting someone simply because you do not agree with them does show quite a low level of intelligence..."


Finally, what if your assumptions about the conflict are mistaken?

You are quite correct, well spotted...

Yes I want a free and peaceful Palestine... That doesn't make me a supporter of terrorism, it doesn't make me anti Semite....

I would like to see peace in the region, bought about by negotiation and balance. This is NOT going to happen whilst Hamas is in power. This is NOT going to happen whilst Israel continues it's occupation.

Finally, I make no assumptions about the conflict, neither do I blindly accept one side or the other as being right or wrong.

In a post some weeks ago I said that Israel should pull out of occupied territory and abide by the international laws as set down...

I also said that IF that ever happened and Israel were then subjected to terrorism, that I would support Israel in their actions against said terrorists.
 
A small but militarily powerful minority of the people of the world support Israel's apartheid and criminal behavior. It is the many useful idiots that post here that make it seem that everyone is as delusional as most Americans vis-a-vis Israel.

Reduced to the basics, ignoring the Israeli propaganda and lies, what happened is that a large percentage of Muslims and Christians living in Palestine for generations were evicted by European Jews and are now in a world-wide diaspora, in camps or in the Israeli controlled Gulags of Gaza and the West Bank. The offspring of the people that were evicted want the land and homes back. Their numbers are growing to the point that today Israeli Jews rule over and control a non-Jewish population larger than the Jewish population. That never works in the long term.

The Jews can repeat the lies over and over again, but most of the world recognizes the truth.

Your grasp of history is terrible. Which is expect of course, being that you're a pro Palestinian.
You are part of the group that thrives on lies and propaganda, so you're not fooling anyone with your accusations about Israel.
 
Grendelyn, et al,

I have a basic question about the question.

Why US and Israel wants to ban this video?

(QUESTION)

Who, in the US wants to ban this video?

Who in Israel wants to ban this video?

(COMMENT)

What organizations or agencies are taking such an action? In the US, this is rather difficult to do unless the video itself is material evidence of a crime, or an instrument of a crime (eg Child Pornography). Now, in the US there have been cases where some local entity has caused a local ban.

All I can find on banned videos/films are:

Banned in Israel since 1957:
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Banned in the US since 1979:
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Can anyone give me more information on who is taking this cause of action against this video? I've searched and simply cannot find any activity (Governmental or NGO) that is actively attempting to ban it.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Thread's been cleaned and reopened. Let's try to stay on topic...posts require content (more than lipservice) related to the subject under discussion in addition to any flames.
 
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