Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

[pknopp]

All these replies and what it all comes down to is that neither Biden or Trump is defendable as president.

 

[Couchpotato]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

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But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

here’s the problem with that opinion. Clinton didn’t turn them over. She deleted them and then they were found on Anthony Wiener’s computer as part of a separate investigation.

Comey: Classified emails forwarded to Weiner

Comey: Classified Clinton emails forwarded to Anthony Weiner

amp.cnn.com

 

[Lisa558]

As I understand it Trump was charged because he would not return the documents. Ask Bill Barr. Biden and Pence did return them.

That’s the point! JFC. The DOJ had to figure out something wrong that Trump did that the others did not - and ignored the crimes that they DID. Especially Biden, who stole classified documents out of the SCIF dating back to when he was a senator, and coincidently has become a multimillionaire along with his son.

 

[Lesh]

Lol, so the public is allowed in Trump's personal residence?

Not much to stop em

 

[Lesh]

here’s the problem with that opinion. Clinton didn’t turn them over. She deleted them and then they were found on Anthony Wiener’s computer as part of a separate investigation.

Comey: Classified emails forwarded to Weiner

Comey: Classified Clinton emails forwarded to Anthony Weiner

amp.cnn.com

Not true. And your link doesn’t support that. Her personal emails were deleted Prior to any subpoena being issued.

Stop lying

 

[Lesh]

…. or did he destroy classified documents under subpoena? Like Hillary?

…. or did he hide material he took in his sock drawer? Like Bill Clinton?

The ARROGANCE by which the weaponized DOJ gives excuses to Democrats and targets the political opposition is something that one would expect from North Korea, not the United States of America.

Hilary did no such thing. Her personal emails were deleted PRIOR to any subpoena.

Bill’s diary tapes were deemed to be his and not classified by a court

 

[jknowgood]

Whew!!!
The Trump Squeaky Frommes are in full on screech this morning.
Let's sample the fare, OK?
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The only political opponent?
Good poster Lisa you need to read more than Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones. These folks are in the mix, they've announced. Why don't you know that? Look, gurlfriend, if you are gonna come onto an adult forum for politics well bring some gravitas and your big-gurl panties:

• Chris Christie
• Vivek Ramswamy
• Asa Hutchins
• Nikki Haley
• Tim Scott
• Ron DeSantis
• Mike Pence
• Doug Burum
• Francis Saurez
• Will Hurd

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Show us. Prove to us that Chinese officials had access to this office. Or that they, in fact, accessed that office.
I'm calling your hand. Show. Or go.
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Show us the proof of that poster beautress.
Top Secret docs do not 'belong' to anyone but the people of the United States of America and then in only highly defined circumstances. So show us that these docs 'belonged' to only private citizen Don Trump.
I'm calling your hand. Show. Or go.
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Your opinion that I quote above demonstrates, to me, how little you know of North Korea or for that matter the United States. Do this gurlfriend, go read a good book on North Korea. Here, try this one first: 'Dear Leader' by Jang Jin Sung. (don't fret, it is in English)
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Prove it. Show it. Have Trump prove it. (after all, Trump never claimed such in court).
I'm calling your hand, poster Sea7. Show. Or go.
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Show us. Prove it. Give the forum a reputable credible citation or reportage that indicates such.
Show. Or go.
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What are in Trump's docs?
I've seen nothing that gives the American public reliable or actionable details of what was in Trump's docs.
Or Biden's.
In my opinion, Lisa, you are simply making charges up in order to salve some sour grievance in your life. You are harshing your own morning mellow, gurlfriend.
Be better. Life is good. Be happy. God bless America.

Penn Biden center is located at the University of Pennsylvania. Which China has donated millions of dollar too. China owns pedo Joe.

 

[Lesh]

Penn Biden center is located at the University of Pennsylvania. Which China has donated millions of dollar too. China owns pedo Joe.

That’s a stretch and a half. Did ya hurt yourself?

 

[jknowgood]

Not much to stop em

Thanks for proving you're an idiot. We have the Penn Biden center which Biden dumps a bunch of classified documents at. That center is located at the university of Pennsylvania. That university also received millions in donations from China. But go ahead and yell Trump, the fbi was at Mar a logo a few months prior to the raid. The only thing the wanted was a different lock on the door.

 

[jknowgood]

That’s a stretch and a half. Did ya hurt yourself?

Look it up, but I know when you see it for yourself. You will just yell ut Trump!

 

[Lesh]

Thanks for proving you're an idiot. We have the Penn Biden center which Biden dumps a bunch of classified documents at. That center is located at the university of Pennsylvania. That university also received millions in donations from China. But go ahead and yell Trump, the fbi was at Mar a logo a few months prior to the raid. The only thing the wanted was a different lock on the door.

They wanted the docs they had subpoenas for and found others… which you note were not locked up

 

[Care4all]

Penn Biden center is located at the University of Pennsylvania. Which China has donated millions of dollar too. China owns pedo Joe.

China's increased donations to the University did not go towards the Biden Center, which was already fully funded.

Please do a Fact Check on that....

And do you not know that our China relationship is in the toilet...wth Biden and admin?

The Chinese have gotten no favors from Biden and his administration... Silly one!

 

[Lisa558]

Now we know why Biden has been so generous to Ukraine with taxpayers’ money.

 

[Lesh]

China's increased donations to the University did not go towards the Biden Center, which was already fully funded.

Please do a Fact Check on that....

And do you not know that our China relationship is in the toilet...wth Biden and admin?

The Chinese have gotten no favors from Biden and his administration... Silly one!

He’s not serious.

It’s just “something to say”

 

[jknowgood]

They wanted the docs they had subpoenas for and found others… which you note were not locked up

Lol, the same fbi is telling you that. The same fbi that lied to you for years about the russian collusion hoax. You a gullible guy. Did you Google University of Pennsylvania getting millions from China yet?

 

[Lesh]

Now we know why Biden has been so generous to Ukraine with taxpayers’ money.

Why? To help repel a heinous invasion?

 

[Lesh]

Lol, the same fbi is telling you that. The same fbi that lied to you for years about the russian collusion hoax. You a gullible guy. Did you Google University of Pennsylvania getting millions from China yet?

And you know better huh? Where do you get your information?

 

[HeyNorm]

They wanted the docs they had subpoenas for and found others… which you note were not locked up

A different lock indicates the presence of a lock, not the absence of a lock.

Wow, that was easy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FBI confirms grand jury subpoenas used in Clinton email probe

Those subpoenas were clearly different, er, because….

 

[jknowgood]

China's increased donations to the University did not go towards the Biden Center, which was already fully funded.

Please do a Fact Check on that....

And do you not know that our China relationship is in the toilet...wth Biden and admin?

The Chinese have gotten no favors from Biden and his administration... Silly one!

Biden shut down our mineral mines for making ev batteries and now we rely on China for the minerals. Biden allowed China to fly a spy balloon over the United States for a week gathering any information they wanted. He leaves classified documents in an office at the university where China has donated millions. You say nothing to see? It only took China giving a couple million to Hunter. Silly one!