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Yes sir it surely is when you got the current president guilty of far greater crimes than Trump could ever have imagined doing. You do your damnedest to ignore those facts with your unequal standards of laws and Justice being applied.Once he left office he was required by law to surrender Presidential Records, he didn't have authority to keep them.
In addition he had not authority to ship classified documents to MAL to retain them, violate a federal subpoena, and obstruct justice in their return.
He wasn't unfairly targeted, he stonewalled the NARA for 16 months for the return of documents, then the NARA had to get the FBI involved and he stonewalled them also. So the FBI got a subpoena for the return of classified documents, and FPOTUS#45 failed to comply with the court order, even hiding some classified documents from his own attorney's. Finally the FBI obtain a search warrant to force their return.
That isn't "unfair scrutiny".
WW
Hey I can deal with humor if it's good..
Go ahead and tapout, ya sissyNo one is going to respond to your lefty sickness. Find something else to do with yourself.
Yes sir it surely is when you got the current president guilty of far greater crimes than Trump could ever have imagined doing. You do your damnedest to ignore those facts with your unequal standards of laws and Justice being applied.
This has been explained at least a thousand times on this board.Because the facts are not the same for Pence and Biden.
He only became frustrated and stalled because of the unequal treatment he was receiving due to a political agenda that targeted him in ways that stirred up controversy in hopes to end his run for the presidency again.... With that knowledge and understanding the NARA should back it's self off. It can't though can it, because politics is behind the bull shite and you know it.Because the facts are not the same for Pence and Biden.
NONE of the three (Pence, Biden, or Trump) has been charged with simple possession. Pence, Biden, Trump being treated the same.
Trump is charged because he stonewalled the NARA, the FBI, failed to comply with a federal subpoena, and obstructed justice by attempting to hide documents not only from the FBI but his own lawyers.
On the other hand Pence and Biden both contacted authorities when documents were discovered, both cooperated with the investigation, and both VOLUNTARILY allowed an FBI search of their homes to ensure no other documents were present.
I know there is a desperation for equivalency here, but there really isn't.
WW
Ohhhh, so Pence and Biden contacted authorities only after the documents were discovered, you know the documents they already knew that they had ? Pfft ..Because the facts are not the same for Pence and Biden.
NONE of the three (Pence, Biden, or Trump) has been charged with simple possession. Pence, Biden, Trump being treated the same.
Trump is charged because he stonewalled the NARA, the FBI, failed to comply with a federal subpoena, and obstructed justice by attempting to hide documents not only from the FBI but his own lawyers.
On the other hand Pence and Biden both contacted authorities when documents were discovered, both cooperated with the investigation, and both VOLUNTARILY allowed an FBI search of their homes to ensure no other documents were present.
I know there is a desperation for equivalency here, but there really isn't.
WW
They damned sure did have documents, it's already been documented...Pence and Biden did not lie, like Trump, they did not have documents.
They did not lie that they did not have the documents.They damned sure did have documents, it's alreads.y been documented...
He only became frustrated and stalled because of the unequal treatment he was receiving due to a political agenda that targeted him in ways that stirred up controversy in hopes to end his run for the presidency again.... With that knowledge and understanding the NARA should back it's self off. It can't though can it, because politics is behind the bull shite and you know it.
You said that they didn't have documents, and I said that they dam sure did have documents, and they knew it too ... Matters not if they told the truth when found out that they had them, what matters is what the law says regarding them having them. So the same applying of those laws should pertain to them as well as Donald Trump, otherwise by those who are attempting to apply such laws to Trump in an unequal way.They did not lie that they did not have the documents.
That's already been documented.
So you are lying now. Blocked.
What similarities can you name?"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.
So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.
Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not
But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.
Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.
Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.
If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.
It's as simple as that, folks.
Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.
As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:
But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.
As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.
The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”
“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.
I like the way you carefully word your post in a way that suggest that Trump is the only one who ever had documents in his possession, and that he alone should be maligned for it.No, the NARA should not have "backed off" the return of Presidential Records and classified documents.
He was "frustrated" isn't an excuse for alleged criminal activity. He wouldn't have been "frustrated" if he had simply complied with the law, complied with the subpoena, and not obstructed justice in the first place.
WW
Did Trump sign a letter attesting to the documents complete return by a certain date or time frame ?What similarities can you name?
Did Clinton have a lawyer sign a document attesting to their complete return when they weren’t.
He had is lawyer sign a document stating that ALL documents had been returned.Did Trump sign a letter attesting to the documents complete return by a certain date or time frame ?
All what documents ? The ones that he had agreed upon to return, otherwise aside from the ones he wasn't legally bound to return ??He had is lawyer sign a document stating that ALL documents had been returned.
It was false, hence the raid.
Dude, they found an additional 300 documents after the former 1-term fuckup said that he returned ALL of them.All what documents ? The ones that he had agreed upon to return, otherwise aside from the ones he wasn't legally bound to return ??
Documents that Trump figured was legal to keep ? Sounds like new negotiations should have insued, but that wasn't the reason for the raid was it cult follower ?Dude, they found an additional 300 documents after the former 1-term fuckup said that he returned ALL of them.
