Why The Socialists Think The Way They Do.

[Foxfyre]

Absolutely

No Marxist leader is in love with the ideology other than using certain aspects of it to their advantage.

Hitler, being a National Socialist, is a prime example. He allowed private business instead of the state taking them over, because they were the experts after all. It was a superior model to Stalin taking over private industry who knew nothing about it. Hitler, however, all that mattered was controlling them outwardly, which he did.

True. Hitler despised the Marxian philosophy while implementing many, not all, components of it.

The goal of both is absolute power. They just take somewhat different paths to get there.

 

[CowboyTed]

Why is it that the Left has zero problem spending any amount of money on things like immigration or climate change, but the second you mention health care for Americans they insist on cutting the budget because too much money is being spent on it?


Why not go to North Korea, I hear the have the cheapest socialized medicine in the world.

Sorry, but you are from the 'Let the Die' crew...

I was pointing out that countries with a strong social healthcare programs is far cheaper than US and they cover everyone.

This upsets you because that would mean you are wrong. Rather than admit you are wrong and you have been played like a gullible chump, you get angry at us...
Accept it, 'Social programs = bad' does not compute properly when you look at the actual figures.

I know you want to deny it but that is just doubling down on being gullible...

So you have to face facts that there are some social programs that make sense and thus social production does off benefit to society (that doesn't mean all socialism is right).

 

[CowboyTed]

Because of Edward Kennedy allowing those who show up in emergency rooms, not to pay, then the hospitals either have to charge the paying customers extra to cover the costs, or go bankrupt. DC general was a prime example where non paying blacks who were scum of the Earth, showed up with bullet holes, got stitched up for free, then the customers realizing how dangerous the area was, stopped show up for their medical. DC general closed. Prince George's country had to pick up the slack, and 10 years later had to get a bailout from the Maryland tax payers, for all the free medical that non paying blacks and illegals used.

If you want medical, get a fucking job, you know in Joe Bribem's roaring economy.

Keep doubling down... Makes no sense but you are bought in baby and it dosen't matter how stupid it is, you are in....

There are plenty of successful social programs in the US which ye conveniently ignore...

 

[2aguy]

Thanks for your let them die attitude to healthcare..

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You are looking at this picture and saying US wins....

How is that a let them die attitutde? Are you this stupid in real life, or just when you post?

The National health services around the world are running out of money......

 

[2aguy]

Sorry, but you are from the 'Let the Die' crew...

I was pointing out that countries with a strong social healthcare programs is far cheaper than US and they cover everyone.

This upsets you because that would mean you are wrong. Rather than admit you are wrong and you have been played like a gullible chump, you get angry at us...
Accept it, 'Social programs = bad' does not compute properly when you look at the actual figures.

I know you want to deny it but that is just doubling down on being gullible...

So you have to face facts that there are some social programs that make sense and thus social production does off benefit to society (that doesn't mean all socialism is right).

Are you guys just going to stay with being stupid?

The National health systems are running out of money, doctors and nurses......they do not work. The only reason they haven't failed more quickly is the United States has provided military protection for all of those countries, and allowed them to spend all of their money on their own welfare states.

Britain....

Single-Payer in Crisis: Britain's NHS Cancels 50,000 Surgeries Amid Long Waits For Care, 'Third World' Conditions

Read every word of this story:

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials. The instructions on Tuesday night - which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed - followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades. Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space. Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS medical director, on Tuesday ordered NHS trusts to stop taking all but the most urgent cases, closing outpatients clinics for weeks as well as cancelling around 50,000 planned operations. Trusts have also been told they can abandon efforts to house male and female patients in separate wards, in an effort to protect basic safety, as services become overwhelmed...By Tuesday night 12 NHS trusts - including two ambulance services covering almost nine million people - had declared they had reached the maximum state of emergency...

East of England Ambulance Service, also at maximum capacity, said some patients were being sent taxis to get them to hospital, with paramedics stuck in ambulances queuing at hospitals for more than 500 hours in the last four days...A number of NHS trust chief executives described the pressure as “relentless” with several on Tuesday saying they had never seen such pressure during 30 years in the health service. Dr Nick Scriven, president of the Society for Acute Medicine, said: "The position at the moment is as bad as I've ever known. We are simply not coping, we were at full capacity before the sorts of pressures that we should be able to manage - like a rise in flu - is pushing us over the edge. “Things are terrible now, but I am fearful the next few weeks will be horrendous."

A blanket, nationwide ban on all "non-urgent" until at least next month, with overcrowded state hospitals leaving sick and elderly patients in hallways, and treatment in some areas deteriorating to "third world" levels. Wait times for care have hit 12 hours, with ambulances forming long lines outside hospitals (hardly unprecedented over there) lasting hundreds of combined hours, forcing vulnerable citizens to travel to emergency in taxis and private vehicles, due to a chronic ambulance backlog. This is single-payer healthcare, operating in an advanced Western nation that has had their system in place for decades. A fundamentally flawed system, insufficient resources and an aging population are proving to be a recipe for disaster.

And that disaster is exactly what Bernie Sanders and a bevy of Democratic presidential hopefuls have in mind for the American people -- this, despite the stunning fiscal realities that have blocked far-left states like Vermont and Californiafrom implementing "universal healthcare" fantasies.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Keep doubling down... Makes no sense but you are bought in baby and it dosen't matter how stupid it is, you are in....

There are plenty of successful social programs in the US which ye conveniently ignore...

Only idiots are you , who voted for the guy who is slowly replacing your sorry ass with criminals and rapists.

 

[August West]

That is the appeal, the notion that you get free stuff.

Problem is, nothing is promised to you as living on social security gets harder and harder every year, and your medical benefits cover less and less. Why? Part of it is that the more money you print for free stuff, the more inflated the currency becomes and the less it buys. The rest has to do with human corruption and inefficiency, something you cannot divorce from humanity.

That is economics 101, something Socialists either deny or ignore to their own detriment.

Nothing is free.

We pay into SS and Medicare, genius. That`s not free stuff.

 

[August West]

Are you guys just going to stay with being stupid?

The National health systems are running out of money, doctors and nurses......they do not work. The only reason they haven't failed more quickly is the United States has provided military protection for all of those countries, and allowed them to spend all of their money on their own welfare states.

Britain....

Single-Payer in Crisis: Britain's NHS Cancels 50,000 Surgeries Amid Long Waits For Care, 'Third World' Conditions

Read every word of this story:

A blanket, nationwide ban on all "non-urgent" until at least next month, with overcrowded state hospitals leaving sick and elderly patients in hallways, and treatment in some areas deteriorating to "third world" levels. Wait times for care have hit 12 hours, with ambulances forming long lines outside hospitals (hardly unprecedented over there) lasting hundreds of combined hours, forcing vulnerable citizens to travel to emergency in taxis and private vehicles, due to a chronic ambulance backlog. This is single-payer healthcare, operating in an advanced Western nation that has had their system in place for decades. A fundamentally flawed system, insufficient resources and an aging population are proving to be a recipe for disaster.

And that disaster is exactly what Bernie Sanders and a bevy of Democratic presidential hopefuls have in mind for the American people -- this, despite the stunning fiscal realities that have blocked far-left states like Vermont and Californiafrom implementing "universal healthcare" fantasies.

Yes, they`re running out of money and changes will have to be made. What we know is that they won`t be looking to the USA for ideas.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, they`re running out of money and changes will have to be made. What we know is that they won`t be looking to the USA for ideas.

Yes, they`re running out of money and changes will have to be made. What we know is that they won`t be looking to the USA for ideas.

they better privatize their system.....because the government can't do anything well.....