Why the 'Natalie Rupnow' shootings will happen again.

[White 6]

Pretending to be unaware of the National Guard being deployed abroad is voluntary ignorance.

And now you're being silly. That means that I was right in both instances.

Why are you asking? Give me an answer that is relative to the subject and I'll tell you.

Never said National Guard wasn't sent, oversea. Heck, I was sent twice. I said they are not trained to protect elementary schools in US from individual attackers, especially those willing to sacrifice themselves, just like we saw, that happened in Afghanistan. Civil desturbance training is about as far as it goes, and not sure they even get that training, anymore

You are being silly, uniformed or willfully ignorant.

You do not sound familiar with the US Army, Army National Guard or regulations and laws under which they operate or their training. That is why I wondered what country you were from. Things are a little different here, than one might think, from Sweden, Denmark, Germany or some other European Country.

 

[GLASNOST]

Never said National Guard wasn't sent, oversea.

So stop hiding behind what the National Guard is meant to do and think it is an explanation that proves what the military does, or can do. The bombing of Serbia was illegal, the invasion and occupation of Irak was illegal, and operating in Cambodia and Laos was also illegal .... but it was done anyway. Do you have any comment about that? Any spin you'd like to entertain me with?

I said they are not trained to protect elementary schools in US from individual attackers.

So ....... train them.

You do not sound familiar with the US Army, Army National Guard or regulations and laws under which they operate or their training. That is why I wondered what country you were from. Things are a little different here, than one might think, from Sweden, Denmark, Germany or some other European Country.

I am a Vietnam Veteran. I served with the US Army in the Central Highlands 1966-67. Where I am from is completely irrelevant. Or do you have some spin on reality that contradicts me? If so let's hear it.

 

[White 6]

So stop hiding behind what the National Guard is meant to do and think it is an explanation that proves what the military does, or can do. The bombing of Serbia was illegal, the invasion and occupation of Irak was illegal, and operating in Cambodia and Laos was also illegal .... but it was done anyway. Do you have any comment about that? Any spin you'd like to entertain me with?

So ....... train them.

I am a Vietnam Veteran. I served with the US Army in the Central Highlands 1966-67. Where I am from is completely irrelevant. Or do you have some spin on reality that contradicts me? If so let's hear it.

Not really. I was involved in NATO operation, assisting in controlling one, not involved, but actually against another one, and my decease brother was probably involved in the last one, back in the late 60s, early 70s as a Marine. But, that has nothing to do with whether the National Guard ever has or ever will receive training making them suitable for safeguarding schools in the US. Like the Active Army, they get the same training, mostly involved in how to break shit and wage war or sometimes manage them.

 

[GLASNOST]

So stop hiding behind what the National Guard is meant to do and think it is an explanation that proves what the military does, or can do. The bombing of Serbia was illegal, the invasion and occupation of Irak was illegal, and operating in Cambodia and Laos was also illegal .... but it was done anyway. Do you have any comment about that? Any spin you'd like to entertain me with?

So ....... train them.

I am a Vietnam Veteran. I served with the US Army in the Central Highlands 1966-67. Where I am from is completely irrelevant. Or do you have some spin on reality that contradicts me? If so let's hear it.

Not really.

"Not really" what? Are you saying the bombing of Serbia, the invasion and occupation of Irak, and operating in Cambodia and Laos was LEGAL? Or, "not really", you don't have any spin to say that it was? Or do you "really not" have some relevant explanation as why my understanding of military matters depends upon where I am from?

I was involved in NATO operation, assisting in controlling one, not involved, but actually against another one,

In that case you ought to know what I've said is true.

my decease brother was probably involved in the last one, back in the late 60s, early 70s as a Marine. But, that has nothing to do ...

... with anything.

.... whether the National Guard ever has or ever will receive training making them suitable for safeguarding schools in the US.

Well! you've had 54 years (since May 4th. 1970) to improve yourself. What is your excuse now? Do you have one?

* I think you took two steps into the deep muck and it might be time for you to take three steps back.

 

[White 6]

"Not really" what? Are you saying the bombing of Serbia, the invasion and occupation of Irak, and operating in Cambodia and Laos was LEGAL? Or, "not really", you don't have any spin to say that it was? Or do you "really not" have some relevant explanation as why my understanding of military matters depends upon where I am from?

In that case you ought to know what I've said is true.

... with anything.

Well! you've had 54 years (since May 4th. 1970) to improve yourself. What is your excuse now? Do you have one?

* I think you took two steps into the deep muck and it might be time for you to take three steps back.

I'm fine and still live in the United States. I take no steps back.

I have many years of both Army and Army National Guard experience, and know where of I speak, whether you learned anything from your brief military service (which I thank you for) or if you have not. And, it does appear, you have learned little.

 

[GLASNOST]

I think you took two steps into the deep muck and it might be time for you to take three steps back.

I'm fine and still live in the United States.

Are you equating "deep muck" with the US? That's interesting.

I take no steps back.

And you somehow believe that little fact qualifies you a high degree of credibility? Oh, Christ! You've just dug your own grave.

I have many years of both Army and Army National Guard experience .....

... and what?

..... whether you learned anything from your brief military service ..... or if you have not. And, it does appear, you have learned little.

Well, that is your own admission of ignorance. I had only 3 years of active service yet I seem to understand far more than you. You see, when faced with the facts I have been courageous enough to "take steps back". I'm not going to give you all of the details because I know you're not listening anyway. But THE MAIN POINT might be that someone who never even served in the military can still have more knowledge than the two of us put together. I realize that is a pill much too large for you to swallow because you "take no steps back". You didn't really need to tell me that because I could see that the number of examples that I have put forward to you ...... you dodged out the exit in the face of each and every one of them. It would be nice to have found some common ground with you but alas you're just a mannequin stuffed with straw or silly-cone or botox or whatever it is that you people use these days to make you feel better about yourselves. You have not faced off a single point I've made since the beginning of this dialogue. Are you afraid of me(?) or is it just "taking a step back" that gashes your fragile ego and scares the bejesus out of you?

 

[braalian]

What happened to all the posters here saying she was “probably trans”?

 

[22lcidw]

Just another nut ball kid, ignored and indulged by parents, probably ignored while tolerated at school, that slipped through the huge cracks in society, crossing to the dark side. They are out there, still out there and will be out there. They are in our schools, workplaces, malls and shopping centers, our military, and our police forces.

I don't know what to do to protect schools. We have all seen teachers we would not trust with a gun, some not even a car on the highway. But not a dig particularly about teachers. The estranged are out there, and you will never know who they are until they cross the line and act. Other than the schools, I recommend you go the the range, get trained, be background check, get qualified, take the tests to be a licensed carrier and carry, to protect yourself and you family, and if possible, other innocents in malevolent harms way.

Progs created this mess with their agendas or at least massively expanded the problems. The fact is there are tens of millions of people who despise the system we have and a percentage of them are sociopaths, psychopaths and mentally ill. This does not bode well for human civilization. When people are willing to commit suicide in mass casualties for their beliefs than that is a bridge to cross that ends in disaster.

 

[GLASNOST]

Progs created this mess with their agendas or at least massively expanded the problems. The fact is there are tens of millions of people who despise the system we have and a percentage of them are sociopaths, psychopaths and mentally ill.

I think you are right.

This does not bode well for human civilization.

If you had said that about 10 years ago I would have disagreed with you but I can now see that your statement in the first part of your reply is spreading to the rest of the world.

When people are willing to commit suicide in mass casualties for their beliefs than that is a bridge to cross that ends in disaster.

It can be the only outcome.

 

[White 6]

Progs created this mess with their agendas or at least massively expanded the problems. The fact is there are tens of millions of people who despise the system we have and a percentage of them are sociopaths, psychopaths and mentally ill. This does not bode well for human civilization. When people are willing to commit suicide in mass casualties for their beliefs than that is a bridge to cross that ends in disaster.

Bad parenting and permissive society causes this problem. Blaming, simply the left, does nothing. One of these parents (at the least) was in charge of this kid and failed to exercise supervision, control, and proper rearing of the kid, most likely also failing to control weapons in the home, also.

My weapons are not tightly controlled in my home, for the most part, but I have no kids living here (all grown), and my weapons (fewer at the time) as well as ammunition, more tightly controlled during those child-rearing years. Also, worth noting is the difference in family upbringing, by two parents, consistently together, never divorced, involved in their kids lives, knowing for years before our first, the importance of commitment to each other and the responsibility of raising kids to adulthood. I doubt it is a "progressive/right-wing thing. From what I see, there appear to be shitty parents, caring more for their personal life than knowing commitment from the start, across the political/economic spectrum.

 

[Failzero]

Civil Unrest will be augmented by runnin street gunplay