Why not cut military spending?

[BreezeWood]

Seriously, someone justify why military cuts should NOT be made?

while they are trying to prevent others from voting ...

the Tea Party comfort level for military spending is based on the selectivity of those in support of military spending who are the same as those employed by the Military Industrial Complex as a kickback from the Republican party to insure their vote -

no cut in defense spending so they will continue voting for Republicans at taxpayers expense.

 

[asaratis]

The GOP establishment has absolutely zero credibility in claiming to be the party of fiscal restraint.

Holy hell Oddball actually said something intelligent

As opposed to you that is highly unlikely to do so.

There are many of us that believe there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats. It is the core belief in capitalism by the conservatives and socialism by the liberals that separates the two groups into acceptable and unacceptable categories.

Liberals and their collectivist ideals literally SUCK!

 

[Oddball]

And how many in the Congress keep it going...or even gave thier advice and consent per the Constitution?

How about Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution that mandates a Military?

Funny? I don't see welfare and Social Engineering anywhere in the Constitution...did you brother?

I think the OP is way off base.

There's a large group of organized radical muslims who swear death to all of America and have proved they can bring the pain via the acts of 9/11/2001.

So if you hate America, i can definitely see why you'd be all for cutting the defense budget.

Oh, off it.

If you really believe that the Pentagon can't wring a paltry couple of percent of waste and fat out of its budgets, you're no better than the losers who squeal to high heaven about ending funding to CPB/NPR/PBS.

Time for the GOP to put the big boy pants on and get serious about cutting spending everywhere.

Agreed SOME cuts need to be made...but NOT what Obama is doing.

Sorry.

Focus on what's Constitutional, and what isn't.

Not what that douchebag Cheney is pushing for, either.

Boehner, McConnell and the rest of the neocon glee club not only don't want to cut a penny of waste, they want to spend more.

Holy shit, Batman!

 

[candycorn]

Cuts can be made in any branch of government. Waste and corruption can be reduced. That does not mean that whole portions of the military system should disappear.

Awarding contracts to private sector companies to produce modern weapons, munitions, airplanes, boats, vehicles, uniforms and supply chains would boost the economy by creating private sector jobs (for which people are actually PAID WAGES and TAXED on those wages) to maintain an effective, well trained, well equipped military would benefit our economy more than anything Obama has done since he moved into the White House.

I remember when shipyards employed thousands of people, utilized U.S. steel to make big ships, little ships, big boats, little boats...all of which require fittings, furnishings, tools and material handling machinery that can be manufactured in the USA by non-shipyard companies.

Hell! Let's build some military Hospital ships and deploy them in areas of need around the world. Let's build some giant floating grocery stores with landing strips on the top deck so we can park them near starving countries and feed people in need.

Don't be silly, the government doesn't create jobs...or so I'm told.

This is a fun topic...

 

[Katzndogz]

The last thing democrats want for this country is a strong national defense. They believe that if we were just weak enough and poor enough, we would not be a worthwhile target.

 

[dilloduck]

There is enormous waste in defense spending. Time for the Republicans to admit it and strengthen their bargaining position.

 

[The T]

Oh, off it.

If you really believe that the Pentagon can't wring a paltry couple of percent of waste and fat out of its budgets, you're no better than the losers who squeal to high heaven about ending funding to CPB/NPR/PBS.

Time for the GOP to put the big boy pants on and get serious about cutting spending everywhere.

Agreed SOME cuts need to be made...but NOT what Obama is doing.

Sorry.

Focus on what's Constitutional, and what isn't.

Not what that douchebag Cheney is pushing for, either.

Boehner, McConnell and the rest of the neocon glee club not only don't want to cut a penny of waste, they want to spend more.

Holy shit, Batman!

And that's fine. but we see what happens when cuts are made to the military and we have to go back and correct it when we need it.

Let's not cut our noses off to spite the face.

 

[candycorn]

The Raptor, the VA class Sub are two things that should be scrapped. They are a new generation of fighter and submarine. The class they will supplant is superior to anything in the air or anything below the surface of the water. The class they will supplant supplanted a class of fighter and sub that was at the time and still is superior to anything in the sky or sub-surface. We're 3 generations ahead of our closest adversary; spending nearly 1/2 of every dollar spent in the world on bullets and we still have people who say we're not spending enough because of 9/11. We could triple spending tomorrow and still be just as vulnerable. i.e. Some pilot stole a plane right off the runway yesterday.

 

[The T]

There is enormous waste in defense spending. Time for the Republicans to admit it and strengthen their bargaining position.

Agreed...but let's not do it to the point to were we could be hurt, our readiness is damaged...when we really have to call upon the military.

 

[High_Gravity]

This question is aimed more towards Republicans, as they're usually the ones crying about the multi-trillion dollar deficit, wasteful federal spending, etc.

I can not think of a bigger waste of taxpayer money then our current "defense" budget, yet the threat of significant cuts to the military magically turns GOP establishment from fiscal hawks to war hawks, warning that any reduction to military spending will jeopardize our national security. #2 ranked China has quadruple our population, yet can manage to defend themselves at a fraction of what the United States spends. At the very least, this screams of inefficiency (perhaps someone can tell the lobbyists from Boeing and Lockheed Martin to F off and reduce the bloated government contracts they get?).

Seriously, someone justify why military cuts should NOT be made?

Because we are at war, cutting Military spending while at war is insane.

 

[asaratis]

Cuts can be made in any branch of government. Waste and corruption can be reduced. That does not mean that whole portions of the military system should disappear.

Awarding contracts to private sector companies to produce modern weapons, munitions, airplanes, boats, vehicles, uniforms and supply chains would boost the economy by creating private sector jobs (for which people are actually PAID WAGES and TAXED on those wages) to maintain an effective, well trained, well equipped military would benefit our economy more than anything Obama has done since he moved into the White House.

I remember when shipyards employed thousands of people, utilized U.S. steel to make big ships, little ships, big boats, little boats...all of which require fittings, furnishings, tools and material handling machinery that can be manufactured in the USA by non-shipyard companies.

Hell! Let's build some military Hospital ships and deploy them in areas of need around the world. Let's build some giant floating grocery stores with landing strips on the top deck so we can park them near starving countries and feed people in need.

Don't be silly, the government doesn't create jobs...or so I'm told.

This is a fun topic...

I know the government doesn't create productive jobs. If the government orders a few one billion dollar Hospital ship, the winning shipyard creates jobs, the steel mill creates jobs, the welding supply company creates jobs, the food caterer creates jobs, the workboot manufacturer creates jobs, the restaurants around the shipyard create jobs, the shipping companies create jobs...all designed to help build the hospital ships.

Of course the government would have to send some inspectors to oversee the building of the goods, but the major jobs would be created by the private sector to satisfy the needs of the project.

 

[candycorn]

Cuts can be made in any branch of government. Waste and corruption can be reduced. That does not mean that whole portions of the military system should disappear.

Awarding contracts to private sector companies to produce modern weapons, munitions, airplanes, boats, vehicles, uniforms and supply chains would boost the economy by creating private sector jobs (for which people are actually PAID WAGES and TAXED on those wages) to maintain an effective, well trained, well equipped military would benefit our economy more than anything Obama has done since he moved into the White House.

I remember when shipyards employed thousands of people, utilized U.S. steel to make big ships, little ships, big boats, little boats...all of which require fittings, furnishings, tools and material handling machinery that can be manufactured in the USA by non-shipyard companies.

Hell! Let's build some military Hospital ships and deploy them in areas of need around the world. Let's build some giant floating grocery stores with landing strips on the top deck so we can park them near starving countries and feed people in need.

Don't be silly, the government doesn't create jobs...or so I'm told.

This is a fun topic...

I know the government doesn't create productive jobs.

Ahh...I see. WHAT?????

If the government orders a billion dollar Hospital ship, the winning shipyard creates jobs, the steel mill creates jobs, the welding supply company creates jobs, the food caterer creates jobs, the workboot manufacturer creates jobs, the restaurants around the shipyard create jobs, the shipping companies create jobs...all designed to help build the hospital ships.

Yes but all of that money to pay the shipyard, the steel mill, the welding supply company, the food caterer, the workboot manufacturer, the restaurants and shipping companies are paid ultimately by Uncle Sam shelling out a cool billion of taxpayer money.

Conservatives have told us for decades that this sort of spending doesn't help the country. Do you disagree?

Next thing you'll be trying to lay on me and my conservative brothers is that the mailman is actually paying taxes on his earnings and spending his paycheck and thusly helping the economy....

Of course the government would have to send some inspectors to oversee the building of the goods, but the major jobs would be created by the private sector to satisfy the needs of the project.

Ah-hah! Waste! Inspectors...regulators...bureaucrats....

 

[1ManRev]

There's a large group of organized radical muslims who swear death to all of America and have proved they can bring the pain via the acts of 9/11/2001.

So if you hate America, i can definitely see why you'd be all for cutting the defense budget... vastly anyway.

I'm of the school of thought that if we stop poking that giant hornets' nest known as the Middle East, we could cut back on spending and make this country safer by being more concerned with our own borders.

You bring up 9/11 as a justification for continuing to flex our military might in that region, when the primary motivation for those attacks were previous times the U.S has poked at that same nest. Bin Laden's dead, time to get out and move on.

 

[Claudette]

They're fighting the puny cuts written into the upcoming sequestration.

The GOP establishment has absolutely zero credibility in claiming to be the party of fiscal restraint.

I agree. Theres loads of waste and places that can be cut in the military.

This can be done without affecting our men and women in uniform or ways to supply them. The Govt is chocked full of waste that could be cut.

Everything needs to be on the chopping block and that inclued the DOD.

 

[candycorn]

They're fighting the puny cuts written into the upcoming sequestration.

The GOP establishment has absolutely zero credibility in claiming to be the party of fiscal restraint.

I agree. Theres loads of waste and places that can be cut in the military.

This can be done without affecting our men and women in uniform or ways to supply them. The Govt is chocked full of waste that could be cut.

Everything needs to be on the chopping block and that inclued the DOD.

Stop making sense....according to one stat I heard the other day, we spend more than the next 26 highest spending countries do on defense--25 of which are our allies.

 

[Black_Label]

The GOP establishment has absolutely zero credibility in claiming to be the party of fiscal restraint.

Holy hell Oddball actually said something intelligent

You never have.

I don't know why you have Dorothy as an avatar, you would be better fitted to have the scarecrow,

"If I only had a brain,.."

 

[Katzndogz]

There's a large group of organized radical muslims who swear death to all of America and have proved they can bring the pain via the acts of 9/11/2001.

So if you hate America, i can definitely see why you'd be all for cutting the defense budget... vastly anyway.

I'm of the school of thought that if we stop poking that giant hornets' nest known as the Middle East, we could cut back on spending and make this country safer by being more concerned with our own borders.

You bring up 9/11 as a justification for continuing to flex our military might in that region, when the primary motivation for those attacks were previous times the U.S has poked at that same nest. Bin Laden's dead, time to get out and move on.

The prmary justification for 911 was American women flashing their tits. No one has suggested that they stop flashing their tits. Well, Cherl Boorman did, but that's a whole different subject.

 

[theHawk]

This question is aimed more towards Republicans, as they're usually the ones crying about the multi-trillion dollar deficit, wasteful federal spending, etc.

I can not think of a bigger waste of taxpayer money then our current "defense" budget, yet the threat of significant cuts to the military magically turns GOP establishment from fiscal hawks to war hawks, warning that any reduction to military spending will jeopardize our national security. #2 ranked China has quadruple our population, yet can manage to defend themselves at a fraction of what the United States spends. At the very least, this screams of inefficiency (perhaps someone can tell the lobbyists from Boeing and Lockheed Martin to F off and reduce the bloated government contracts they get?).

Seriously, someone justify why military cuts should NOT be made?

China "defends themselves at a fraction" of what the US spends because they pay their soldiers a fraction of what ours get paid, and they steal technology from us rather than research on their own. Their armed forces are nearly twice as much as ours. Also all of their workers making their weapons and equipment for them are getting paid pennies on the dollar compared to US salaries.

Maybe you think our soldiers should only get paid a couple hundred bucks a month like a good communist Chinese soldier.

 

[Oddball]

There is enormous waste in defense spending. Time for the Republicans to admit it and strengthen their bargaining position.

Agreed...but let's not do it to the point to were we could be hurt, our readiness is damaged...when we really have to call upon the military.

You do know that the proposed cuts are in the range of a scant few percentage points and spread over a decade, don't you?

 

[Mr Natural]

Our overblown defense budget didn't do squat to prevent the biggest attack in American history.