Why Liberals Want To Ban The AR-15

[Slade3200]

what about the most obvious reason... they are most often used to kill school children and innocent citizens in mass murder shootings. Why did you leave that very obvious reason out?

That's a lie. Hand guns are used in most mass shootings.

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I wasn’t lying.. just stating an observation

Yeah, an observation that has been debunked in every thread on firearms. I'm sure I've seen you in at least a couple of them. So what would you call an observation that has been proven to be untrue?

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im not twisting numbers to form a narrative just providing the most obvious reason for supporting regulation by most people. They hear AR15 and think of most the major mass shootings we’ve had in the USA. Schools, night clubs, churches... that’s why they support regulation. The OP left out the most obvious point.

And the only reason people think that way is due to propaganda pushed by the commiecrats and their lackey media. ARs have lower body counts than fist, feet and clubs, they just get all the publicity. Studies show the last AW ban had no measurable effect on crime. It's all planned to eventually disarm law abiding citizens. That's why I say, NO MORE COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!!!

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How about you list the biggest mass shootings in the US over the past few years and the type of weapon used... I’m not talking about gang homicides in Chicago, I’m talking about mass shootings in public forums... you obviously need to do the research so have fun.

 

[cnm]

You might want to check you stats, you're way off.

You are as ignorant as you are uninformed. But I repeat myself.

edit...My apologies. You are right, I meant to say around half of all US homicides are committed with handguns. They should be severely restricted in order to lower that rate.

Damn, are you not reading the thread, the real numbers have been posted a couple of times.

“In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.

Can you do math?

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Can you read? Where are all homicides given?

 

[cnm]

In fact, a Shiv Specialist can inflict the same body count as the handgun in the same time and space.

The point about a handgun is one doesn't have to be much of a specialist at close range.

 

[cnm]

Ok, I was out by quite a lot. In 2018 in the USA 10,218 homicides were committed, 6603 of them with handguns. So about 2/3 of all homicides in the US are committed with handguns, not 1/2.

Murder - number of victims by weapons used | Statista

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, in some situations, but not as consistently as the AR. The AR's accuracy doesn't degrade any where near as quickly as any other commonly available gun, including pistols, and concealment isn't always an issue.

Yeah but bear with me for a second...practically speaking...if you are in close quarters (office, school...mosque...etc.) and wish to effect max damage...a handgun is just as effective a tool as an AR.
I mean there is a reason police carry handguns and not rifles. You have a valid point Bulldog not arguing just saying.

In practical situations one can maximize the kill ratio with a handgun on concealment and a greater element of surprise alone.

Is that why the military only issues handguns to our soldiers?

They also issue machine guns. Do you want everyone to have access to a Ma Deuce?

Actually, I have the legal right to own a Ma Deuce as long as I have a Class 3 FFL license and have the facility for storage and security for the weapon. And the hundred grand to purchase one.

Once again your reading comprehension fails. Try rereading your post and my response. You can't reconcile your hypocrisy.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

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I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Bullshit.
Guns used in mass shootings 1982-2019 | Statista

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

That´s the purpose of a weapon.
Those who intent to use weapons illegally are not going to turn them in. Borders open to criminal cartels, citizens stripped of their arms, that is not in your interest.

Those who are intent to manufacture meth and sell it to school kids won't turn their equipment either. Does that mean it shouldn't be illegal?

Show me the part of the Constitution that states the right to sell drugs to school children.

 

[bripat9643]

mass shootings are all done at short ranges. A handgun is actually more suited for the job.

Jesus. What a load. But handguns should be severely restricted, I agree.

You just admitted that AR-15s are not the primary weapon used for mass shootings, but you imagine that justifies banning handguns?

You're a ******* load.

 

[bripat9643]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Wrong. It's a semi-automatic rifle. Those are common as dirt.

Being semi automatic is not the reason they should be regulated.

What is the reason?

 

[bripat9643]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Not really. Check out what guns Charles Whitman used. There is also Lee Harvy Oswald. Even for his times the fun he used to kill a presidant was about as shitty as they come. It's not the weapons it's the people behind them.

The AR-15 wasn't as readily available for Whitman, and Lee Harvey Oswald shot one person.

Nevertheless, he killed 11 people and wounded 31.

Over a period of more than 1 1/2 hours with no real response to his attack.

Which shows why you can't depend on the police to protect you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

I love when people who have never shot a gun think they are an expert.

That's why lawmakers should never make any laws about gun control

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

I love when people who have never shot a gun think they are an expert.

You think I have never shot a gun? That makes sense to you because you think only gun nuts own guns. You are wrong on both counts.

12 gauge shotgun and a revolver

 

[ScorpioRising007]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

You don't need it for personal protection, a regular gun will do. It's a gun designed for war, mass killing. One could easily shoot up a shopping mall with one, not good. We have too many idiots in this country wanting to walk into shopping malls, movie theaters, dance clubs, and schools wanting to kill as many people as they can in a short amount of time. The AR-15 allows them to do that.

I know all the gun nuts are going cry your violating my rights, I say go cry me a river pumpkin we need tougher gun control in this country to lower the murders. It violates the constitution you say? I don't care so be it.

I recently left truck driving for a 48k year job in the Social Services industry that was offered to me. Pretty good since most my jobs besides truck driving have been low paying $7-10hr and I got fired from 7 jobs. Dyslexic, ADHD, Mildly Autistic, Mild problems with seizures.

But anyway... back to my point. Most the people I have known in the healthcare/ Social Services industry including caregivers, doctors, nurses are very much pro gun control. Several doctors I have known have said they see it everyday in the ER, they need stronger gun control laws in this country.

 

[Norman]

The AR-15 is powerful enough to threaten the liberal government and completely take it down if need be.

That's exactly why it should NOT be ever banned, and also the reason why leftists want to ban it. AR-15 is the final say in why the people are above the government.

 

[SweetTea]

For starters, even if they ban AR-15's, criminials will still use them. Secondly, if a mentally ill person couldn't get an AR-15 they would simply use something else that is equally affected. There are a pleathora of alternatives. The left would them want to ban those. The "banning' would never stop.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Many handguns hold 15-18 rounds. Handgun are much more mobile and concealable. The rounds they hold can be excessively deadly.

Calibres in handguns with mags holding that many don't have the killing power of AR 15 calibres at the same ranges.

1. It's Calibers.
2. most shootings are done within pistol caliber range
3. Back in the 80's there was a move to ban all pistols but those making the push knew it would never happen so they went after the AR because it wasn't in common use but now it is.

 

[Mac-7]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Except for this little ranch rifle.

Dont give liberals any ideas

If they ban the AR-15 they will come after all the other guns in due time

 

[bigrebnc1775]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Except for this little ranch rifle.

Dont give liberals any ideas

If they ban the AR-15 they will come after all the other guns in due time

Hate to break it to you but if they get the chance to ban AR's no firearm will be safe from the next ban.

 

[2aguy]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

Almost.....it won't be more powerful guns....it will be all semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns, and then they will come back for bolt action rifles, lever action rifles and revolvers.....

The AR-15 is the gate way tool for banning all semi-automatic weapons....

 

[2aguy]

***\\\This Is My Opinion///***

I believe Liberals want to ban the AR-15 for two reasons...

1. The AR-15 is scary looking, it's that simple. The AR-15 is scary looking and it's easy to get people to think the AR-15 is bad because of the way it looks.

2. Here's the main reason why Liberals want to ban the AR-15. If Liberals are successful, they can then point to other guns as more powerful and say "We banned the AR-15 so we should ban all of these other weapons because they are more powerful and accurate."

That's why the big push to ban the AR-15.

And you are wrong. No other gun, freely available to civilians, is designed for or capable of killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible as the AR-15.

Many handguns hold 15-18 rounds. Handgun are much more mobile and concealable. The rounds they hold can be excessively deadly.

Yes, in some situations, but not as consistently as the AR. The AR's accuracy doesn't degrade any where near as quickly as any other commonly available gun, including pistols, and concealment isn't always an issue.

You are a moron....

Gilroy shooting....rifle with a magazine...3 killed.

Dayton shooting...rifle with magazine....9 killed

Russian Polytechnic shooting, 5 shot, tube fed, pump action shotgun....20 killed, 40 injured.

Navy yard shooting, tube fed, pump action shotgun...12 killed....

You don't know what you are talking about....it isn't the weapon used, it is the location chosen for the attack and how long it takes for some good guy with a gun to shoot back at the attacker.....