Why it isn't important for fathers to be in the household

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For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
Because they should be partly financially responsible for their children instead of the states and the federal government, which is usually what happens when there is no father.
 
Because they should be partly financially responsible for their children instead of the states and the federal government, which is usually what happens when there is no father.
There's no instead. The state or federal government would be responsible regardless, such is the father is a convicted felon who has a hard time finding work anywhere but fast food restaurants.
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
Yeah, pretty sure we don't need to hear about your justification for your lack of responsibility.
 
Yeah, pretty sure we don't need to hear about your justification for your lack of responsibility.
No justification needed. In the case of many of the individuals who end up producing offspring, it may very well be better that they aren't residing in the same residence as the offspring in question.
 
There's no instead. The state or federal government would be responsible regardless, such is the father is a convicted felon who has a hard time finding work anywhere but fast food restaurants.
There are lots of deadbeat fathers who aren’t convicted felons.
 
There are lots of deadbeat fathers who aren’t convicted felons.
And tell me how they would instantly become role models if they resided in the same household, or instantly be able to acquire a well-paying job.
 
And tell me how they would instantly become role models if they resided in the same household, or instantly be able to acquire a well-paying job.
Who is a role model when the father is missing and the mother doesn’t work and lives off of welfare?
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
That's a good argument for not forcing fathers to live with their children and children's mother.

It is a very poor argument that children are better off without fathers.

Children would be far better off of women did not have unprotected sex with men whose characters they do not know well enough to predict that they will stop up to the plate in the event of an unplanned pregnance and would be far better off if such men would turn out to be the kind who would at least try to provide the financial, emotional, and educational support that every child need from their dad.

Fatherlessness - not institutional racism - is the primary factor in the Black crime rate.
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
That just makes them poor, but they can still be a father.

The idea that the child does not need both parents, regardless of their financial situation, is flat out bizarre.
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
Feeling guilty about your life choices?
 
No justification needed. In the case of many of the individuals who end up producing offspring, it may very well be better that they aren't residing in the same residence as the offspring in question.
Yea sure, you're just asking for "a friend".
 
Yea sure, you're just asking for "a friend".
I don't have any children, that I'm aware of. And don't necessarily want any. You haven't address my question.

If the father is incompetent, or a criminal then why would him being in the home magically transform him into a competent father?
 
I don't have any children, that I'm aware of. And don't necessarily want any. You haven't address my question.

If the father is incompetent, or a criminal then why would him being in the home magically transform him into a competent father?
Such a person belongs in jail, and probably grew up without a father, so he found his role model father on the streets.
 
I don't have any children, that I'm aware of. And don't necessarily want any. You haven't address my question.

If the father is incompetent, or a criminal then why would him being in the home magically transform him into a competent father?
Ignorance doesn't get you off the hook.
 
For starters:

If a father is incompetent or a bad role model, then him simply residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother and offspring won't necessarily make a difference, or may even be more harmful to the child than would be the case with a single mother.

The reality is that many of the fathers of the children of single mothers are financially unable or unwilling to provide, may be involved in gangs and criminal activities, and may be in an out of prison. So I'm unsure why some believe that if the father in question was merely residing in the same physical vicinity as the mother, that it would magically solve problems which people allege as playing a role in youth crime and delinquency, or that they would somehow magically morph into an ideal father and role model, when they clearly are not.

Conversely, part of this argument may even be selfishness, and the result of some individuals merely having possessiveness over their biological children, when, in reality, the children are better off without them, and the courts may have rightfully decided such.
It has become acceptable in black culture for women not to marry and have children. The result is they create 52% if all murder and crime
 
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There's no instead. The state or federal government would be responsible regardless, such is the father is a convicted felon who has a hard time finding work anywhere but fast food restaurants.
George Floyd is a successful Prog father. And a reason we are in decline.
 

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