Why Is The Government Killing The Last Of Our Wild Horses?

[Lakhota]

It's a real tragedy and a disgrace.
Maybe a petition with enough signatures will force the gvmnt to stop this?

I agree! I'm still researching - but here is one site:

Take action today to stop roundups and mustang slaughter!

 

[sealybobo]

We eat the co

Their shit is full of methane. We can't have that.

Much less than cows grazing on our taxpayer-owned public lands.

WE eat the cows. No one rides horses anymore.

We're going to be sorry if we loose all our technology. If I didn't have a car I'd want a horse.

 

[dilloduck]

are they really native or are they an invasive species ?

 

[sealybobo]

That's really messed up, I agree with you. Wild horses should be protected.

Are they endangered?

 

[Lakhota]

are they really native or are they an invasive species ?

Invasive species? You mean like insects and weeds?

 

[dilloduck]

We eat the co

Their shit is full of methane. We can't have that.

Much less than cows grazing on our taxpayer-owned public lands.

WE eat the cows. No one rides horses anymore.

We're going to be sorry if we loose all our technology. If I didn't have a car I'd want a horse.

If we lose our technology we'll all be dead. No worries about transportation.

 

[Lakhota]

Protect Mustangs™

Damn, it just gets sadder and sadder.

 

[liarintheWH]

They are starving. Slaughter is the best option unless you folks would like to start rescues? Horses aren't cheap to feed but feel free.

Who is feeding all the cattle on government grazing land?

Ranchers who own them? Duh.

Cattle cubes, grain, mineral blocks...

All things a fucking wild horse doesn't get. Feel free to rescue some.

 

[Lakhota]

They are starving. Slaughter is the best option unless you folks would like to start rescues? Horses aren't cheap to feed but feel free.

Who is feeding all the cattle on government grazing land?

Ranchers who own them? Duh.

Cattle cubes, grain, mineral blocks...

All things a fucking wild horse doesn't get. Feel free to rescue some.

The wild mustangs can survive on grass and water - so why should the cattle ranchers hog up all the public grazing land?

 

[Lakhota]

They deserve better.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You're running. It seems like it's been days … and it has. You're strong and powerful but your legs hurt so badly because you've been running for what seems like forever. You can barely catch your breath. You're trying to protect your baby, as well, but she can barely keep up and is stumbling on her brand new legs. But the predators are literally on your tail. You're being chased by those who intend to inflict harm, so you keep on running. You're in a panic. You're frantic. You're hungry, you're thirsty, but you can't stop. If you stop, they catch you. And when they catch you, it's over.

This is the life of wild horses today. The mustangs.

Our great mustangs descended from Spanish horses and were brought here in the 16th century by Spanish explorers. Their name in Spanish, mustengo, means "stray horse."

Just last month the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) completed a roundup of roughly 1,400 wild horses in Oregon in Beaty's Butte, historically known as the area of the Kiger mustangs.

According to a Pacific Standard report, there were five deaths on November 19, including "one 8 year old mare with old break in right hind leg and one 4 month old colt with old break in left hind leg." Two days later, 16 horses were dead. According to another report published in the same article, "The most heartbreaking [scene] of the day involved the foals. The helicopters are running these horses from very long distances, and often foals just can't keep up for as long as the rest of their herd."

What we once considered an American icon is now fodder for the latest cull by government entities. It seems nothing is sacred these days, even a beautiful part of our history.

When we hear that dogs are culled in Asian countries for fear of rabies, we rant and rave and express our disgust. Yet here in our very own country we are culling the last of our great wild horses, and our rants and raves seem to fall on deaf ears.

The horse has a long and integral part in the history of the U.S., which was founded on the backs of these great icons, as they helped pioneers settle the West. After being brought here by the Spaniards, the mustangs were used by Native Americans for a variety of tasks such as transportation. They were revered for their "fantastic stamina and speed," while their stocky legs made them perfect for long hauls.

Where once 2 million wild horses roamed in the 19th century, according to an article referencing Western writer J. Frank Dobie, "by the time the wild horse received federal protection in 1971, it was officially estimated that only about 17,000 of them roamed America's plains. More than 1 million had been conscripted for World War I combat; the rest had been hunted for their flesh, for the chicken feed and dog food companies, and for the sport of it."

In response to public outrage over the horses' annihilation, the 1971 Wild Free-Roaming Horse & Burro Act was passed, protecting wild horses from capture and death. The BLM and the U.S. Forest Service were responsible for implementing the act and ensuring protections were in place for the wild horses while they also issued grazing permits to cattle ranchers on public land.

While they were once considered iconic and majestic, wild horses are now deemed nothing more than a nuisance by ranchers who use federal land for subsidized grazing. And we've let them down. Big time.

The kill buyers don't hide, according to Meagher. "There is nothing illegal in what they are doing. It's immoral, but it's not illegal. It is legal to buy horses here and transport across country lines" to sell to slaughter.

We owe our wild horses so much more than extinction.

To find out more about protecting and helping our wild horses, visit American Wild Horse Preservation, International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros, and The Humane Society of the United States.

More: Why Is The Government Killing The Last Of Our Wild Horses?

This is really sad. Cattle ranchers pushing iconic and majestic wild horses off government grazing lands. So now they're just a nuisance and sold to slaughter. Damn, that is really sad.

If you wish to contact President Obama:

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 202-456-1111
​

Petitions: Take action today to stop roundups and mustang slaughter!

Protect Mustangs™

DO wild horses make rich people richer? No, then let those who support the rich people kill the fuck out of them.

 

[Lakhota]

You're running. It seems like it's been days … and it has. You're strong and powerful but your legs hurt so badly because you've been running for what seems like forever. You can barely catch your breath. You're trying to protect your baby, as well, but she can barely keep up and is stumbling on her brand new legs. But the predators are literally on your tail. You're being chased by those who intend to inflict harm, so you keep on running. You're in a panic. You're frantic. You're hungry, you're thirsty, but you can't stop. If you stop, they catch you. And when they catch you, it's over.

This is the life of wild horses today. The mustangs.

Our great mustangs descended from Spanish horses and were brought here in the 16th century by Spanish explorers. Their name in Spanish, mustengo, means "stray horse."

Just last month the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) completed a roundup of roughly 1,400 wild horses in Oregon in Beaty's Butte, historically known as the area of the Kiger mustangs.

According to a Pacific Standard report, there were five deaths on November 19, including "one 8 year old mare with old break in right hind leg and one 4 month old colt with old break in left hind leg." Two days later, 16 horses were dead. According to another report published in the same article, "The most heartbreaking [scene] of the day involved the foals. The helicopters are running these horses from very long distances, and often foals just can't keep up for as long as the rest of their herd."

What we once considered an American icon is now fodder for the latest cull by government entities. It seems nothing is sacred these days, even a beautiful part of our history.

When we hear that dogs are culled in Asian countries for fear of rabies, we rant and rave and express our disgust. Yet here in our very own country we are culling the last of our great wild horses, and our rants and raves seem to fall on deaf ears.

The horse has a long and integral part in the history of the U.S., which was founded on the backs of these great icons, as they helped pioneers settle the West. After being brought here by the Spaniards, the mustangs were used by Native Americans for a variety of tasks such as transportation. They were revered for their "fantastic stamina and speed," while their stocky legs made them perfect for long hauls.

Where once 2 million wild horses roamed in the 19th century, according to an article referencing Western writer J. Frank Dobie, "by the time the wild horse received federal protection in 1971, it was officially estimated that only about 17,000 of them roamed America's plains. More than 1 million had been conscripted for World War I combat; the rest had been hunted for their flesh, for the chicken feed and dog food companies, and for the sport of it."

In response to public outrage over the horses' annihilation, the 1971 Wild Free-Roaming Horse & Burro Act was passed, protecting wild horses from capture and death. The BLM and the U.S. Forest Service were responsible for implementing the act and ensuring protections were in place for the wild horses while they also issued grazing permits to cattle ranchers on public land.

While they were once considered iconic and majestic, wild horses are now deemed nothing more than a nuisance by ranchers who use federal land for subsidized grazing. And we've let them down. Big time.

The kill buyers don't hide, according to Meagher. "There is nothing illegal in what they are doing. It's immoral, but it's not illegal. It is legal to buy horses here and transport across country lines" to sell to slaughter.

We owe our wild horses so much more than extinction.

To find out more about protecting and helping our wild horses, visit American Wild Horse Preservation, International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros, and The Humane Society of the United States.

More: Why Is The Government Killing The Last Of Our Wild Horses?

This is really sad. Cattle ranchers pushing iconic and majestic wild horses off government grazing lands. So now they're just a nuisance and sold to slaughter. Damn, that is really sad.

If you wish to contact President Obama:

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 202-456-1111
​

Petitions: Take action today to stop roundups and mustang slaughter!

Protect Mustangs™

DO wild horses make rich people richer? No, then let those who support the rich people kill the fuck out of them.

Wow, thanks for your compassion. I judge humans by how they treat animals and environment.

 

[flacaltenn]

Protect Mustangs™

Damn, it just gets sadder and sadder.

I sympathize with your BLM problems.. Even if you never give a shit about ANYONE ELSE'S problems with the BLM or the Feds..

And I support efforts to protect the wild horses. But I believe you've been stiirred up about this PZP business.
As usual -- these enviro causes often get bad information passed over and over again..

It IS humane to reduce the breeding of these horses.. Because they have little natural natural pressures except starvation. And if conditions on the prairie can't support their numbers -- I'd rather see their numbers managed, than shooting them or allowing them to starve from over-breeding.

So I support the use of PZP -- which as far as I can see --- has the scientific validation to be safe and effective.


Is PZP Safe? Immunocontraceptive Vaccines and Their Regulation : The Humane Society of the United States

The zona pellucida (PZP) immunocontraceptive vaccine has been studied for more than 30 years, and its effects are well known. Thousands of PZP vaccinations have been delivered to wild horses and deer by The HSUS' research team and its many university and government collaborators. Hundreds of zoo animals have received the vaccine, too.

As a naturally occurring protein, PZP is biodegradable and does not pass through the food chain. In deer and wild horses, the best studied species, the contraceptive effects of PZP are reversible even after several consecutive years of treatment (in horses, up to at least five years). PZP vaccination has no effect on ongoing pregnancies, and the offspring of treated females survive and reproduce as well as the offspring of untreated females.

The side effects of PZP are very limited—and not all of them are bad. A small proportion (less than 2 percent) of deer and horses that receive PZP by dart can suffer from abscesses at the injection site.These are small (an inch or less across), and heal within a month. Female white-tailed deer, which typically mate in November and December, can go through repeated breeding cycles (as late as March) when treated with PZP. However, there is no evidence that this causes any harm to the PZP-treated female deer or to the male deer who might pursue them, and it does not put them at higher risk of collisions with vehicles. PZP does not extend breeding cycles in wild horses.

 

[Tilly]

You're running. It seems like it's been days … and it has. You're strong and powerful but your legs hurt so badly because you've been running for what seems like forever. You can barely catch your breath. You're trying to protect your baby, as well, but she can barely keep up and is stumbling on her brand new legs. But the predators are literally on your tail. You're being chased by those who intend to inflict harm, so you keep on running. You're in a panic. You're frantic. You're hungry, you're thirsty, but you can't stop. If you stop, they catch you. And when they catch you, it's over.

This is the life of wild horses today. The mustangs.

Our great mustangs descended from Spanish horses and were brought here in the 16th century by Spanish explorers. Their name in Spanish, mustengo, means "stray horse."

Just last month the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) completed a roundup of roughly 1,400 wild horses in Oregon in Beaty's Butte, historically known as the area of the Kiger mustangs.

According to a Pacific Standard report, there were five deaths on November 19, including "one 8 year old mare with old break in right hind leg and one 4 month old colt with old break in left hind leg." Two days later, 16 horses were dead. According to another report published in the same article, "The most heartbreaking [scene] of the day involved the foals. The helicopters are running these horses from very long distances, and often foals just can't keep up for as long as the rest of their herd."

What we once considered an American icon is now fodder for the latest cull by government entities. It seems nothing is sacred these days, even a beautiful part of our history.

When we hear that dogs are culled in Asian countries for fear of rabies, we rant and rave and express our disgust. Yet here in our very own country we are culling the last of our great wild horses, and our rants and raves seem to fall on deaf ears.

The horse has a long and integral part in the history of the U.S., which was founded on the backs of these great icons, as they helped pioneers settle the West. After being brought here by the Spaniards, the mustangs were used by Native Americans for a variety of tasks such as transportation. They were revered for their "fantastic stamina and speed," while their stocky legs made them perfect for long hauls.

Where once 2 million wild horses roamed in the 19th century, according to an article referencing Western writer J. Frank Dobie, "by the time the wild horse received federal protection in 1971, it was officially estimated that only about 17,000 of them roamed America's plains. More than 1 million had been conscripted for World War I combat; the rest had been hunted for their flesh, for the chicken feed and dog food companies, and for the sport of it."

In response to public outrage over the horses' annihilation, the 1971 Wild Free-Roaming Horse & Burro Act was passed, protecting wild horses from capture and death. The BLM and the U.S. Forest Service were responsible for implementing the act and ensuring protections were in place for the wild horses while they also issued grazing permits to cattle ranchers on public land.

While they were once considered iconic and majestic, wild horses are now deemed nothing more than a nuisance by ranchers who use federal land for subsidized grazing. And we've let them down. Big time.

The kill buyers don't hide, according to Meagher. "There is nothing illegal in what they are doing. It's immoral, but it's not illegal. It is legal to buy horses here and transport across country lines" to sell to slaughter.

We owe our wild horses so much more than extinction.

To find out more about protecting and helping our wild horses, visit American Wild Horse Preservation, International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros, and The Humane Society of the United States.

More: Why Is The Government Killing The Last Of Our Wild Horses?

This is really sad. Cattle ranchers pushing iconic and majestic wild horses off government grazing lands. So now they're just a nuisance and sold to slaughter. Damn, that is really sad.

If you wish to contact President Obama:

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 202-456-1111
​

Petitions: Take action today to stop roundups and mustang slaughter!

Protect Mustangs™

DO wild horses make rich people richer? No, then let those who support the rich people kill the fuck out of them.

Eh???

 

[frigidweirdo]

You're running. It seems like it's been days … and it has. You're strong and powerful but your legs hurt so badly because you've been running for what seems like forever. You can barely catch your breath. You're trying to protect your baby, as well, but she can barely keep up and is stumbling on her brand new legs. But the predators are literally on your tail. You're being chased by those who intend to inflict harm, so you keep on running. You're in a panic. You're frantic. You're hungry, you're thirsty, but you can't stop. If you stop, they catch you. And when they catch you, it's over.

This is the life of wild horses today. The mustangs.

Our great mustangs descended from Spanish horses and were brought here in the 16th century by Spanish explorers. Their name in Spanish, mustengo, means "stray horse."

Just last month the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) completed a roundup of roughly 1,400 wild horses in Oregon in Beaty's Butte, historically known as the area of the Kiger mustangs.

According to a Pacific Standard report, there were five deaths on November 19, including "one 8 year old mare with old break in right hind leg and one 4 month old colt with old break in left hind leg." Two days later, 16 horses were dead. According to another report published in the same article, "The most heartbreaking [scene] of the day involved the foals. The helicopters are running these horses from very long distances, and often foals just can't keep up for as long as the rest of their herd."

What we once considered an American icon is now fodder for the latest cull by government entities. It seems nothing is sacred these days, even a beautiful part of our history.

When we hear that dogs are culled in Asian countries for fear of rabies, we rant and rave and express our disgust. Yet here in our very own country we are culling the last of our great wild horses, and our rants and raves seem to fall on deaf ears.

The horse has a long and integral part in the history of the U.S., which was founded on the backs of these great icons, as they helped pioneers settle the West. After being brought here by the Spaniards, the mustangs were used by Native Americans for a variety of tasks such as transportation. They were revered for their "fantastic stamina and speed," while their stocky legs made them perfect for long hauls.

Where once 2 million wild horses roamed in the 19th century, according to an article referencing Western writer J. Frank Dobie, "by the time the wild horse received federal protection in 1971, it was officially estimated that only about 17,000 of them roamed America's plains. More than 1 million had been conscripted for World War I combat; the rest had been hunted for their flesh, for the chicken feed and dog food companies, and for the sport of it."

In response to public outrage over the horses' annihilation, the 1971 Wild Free-Roaming Horse & Burro Act was passed, protecting wild horses from capture and death. The BLM and the U.S. Forest Service were responsible for implementing the act and ensuring protections were in place for the wild horses while they also issued grazing permits to cattle ranchers on public land.

While they were once considered iconic and majestic, wild horses are now deemed nothing more than a nuisance by ranchers who use federal land for subsidized grazing. And we've let them down. Big time.

The kill buyers don't hide, according to Meagher. "There is nothing illegal in what they are doing. It's immoral, but it's not illegal. It is legal to buy horses here and transport across country lines" to sell to slaughter.

We owe our wild horses so much more than extinction.

To find out more about protecting and helping our wild horses, visit American Wild Horse Preservation, International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros, and The Humane Society of the United States.

More: Why Is The Government Killing The Last Of Our Wild Horses?

This is really sad. Cattle ranchers pushing iconic and majestic wild horses off government grazing lands. So now they're just a nuisance and sold to slaughter. Damn, that is really sad.

If you wish to contact President Obama:

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 202-456-1111
​

Petitions: Take action today to stop roundups and mustang slaughter!

Protect Mustangs™

DO wild horses make rich people richer? No, then let those who support the rich people kill the fuck out of them.

Wow, thanks for your compassion. I judge humans by how they treat animals and environment.

I'm a vegetarian, and I'm sarcastic.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Well first of all we go through 4 pages of thread before someone realizes horses are an invasive species. They are not native to America but were introduced by the early Spanish conquistadors, and changed the whole culture,of many Indian tribes, which in today's climate would be a cardinal sin.......Horses: Breeds

In other news, the usual liberal tug at the heartstrings ignores the usual facts of the case. The bureau of land management conduct these round ups to keep horses from overpopulating and starving to death. Horses that are kept are put up for adoption or kept in holding pens that probably then go for meat or glue. There are 45,000 wild horses on federal land. They all deserve to live in a healthy environment.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Well first of all we go through 4 pages of thread before someone realizes horses are an invasive species. They are not native to America but were introduced by the early Spanish conquistadors, and changed the whole culture,of many Indian tribes, which in today's climate would be a cardinal sin.......Horses: Breeds

In other news, the usual liberal tug at the heartstrings ignores the usual facts of the case. The bureau of land management conduct these round ups to keep horses from overpopulating and starving to death. Horses that are kept are put up for adoption or kept in holding pens that probably then go for meat or glue. There are 45,000 wild horses on federal land. They all deserve to live in a healthy environment.

So are cattle and they're the reason for shooting horses.

Cattle do much more damage than horses but govt subsidizes cattle ranchers - like Clive Bundy. There's no money in horses and who cares if cattle trash the land?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

They are starving. Slaughter is the best option unless you folks would like to start rescues? Horses aren't cheap to feed but feel free.

Who is feeding all the cattle on government grazing land?

Ranchers who own them? Duh.

Cattle cubes, grain, mineral blocks...

All things a fucking wild horse doesn't get. Feel free to rescue some.

Mostly, you - the tax payer.

Read up on welfare ranching,starting with Howard Lyman.

 

[Tilly]

Well first of all we go through 4 pages of thread before someone realizes horses are an invasive species. They are not native to America but were introduced by the early Spanish conquistadors, and changed the whole culture,of many Indian tribes, which in today's climate would be a cardinal sin.......Horses: Breeds

In other news, the usual liberal tug at the heartstrings ignores the usual facts of the case. The bureau of land management conduct these round ups to keep horses from overpopulating and starving to death. Horses that are kept are put up for adoption or kept in holding pens that probably then go for meat or glue. There are 45,000 wild horses on federal land. They all deserve to live in a healthy environment.

The provenance of the horses was in the OP.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Their shit is full of methane. We can't have that.

Cattle account for something like +90%
Horses, less than 2%.