Why is the GOP even bothering to select a candidate for next year?

[HenryBHough]

If the "official" Republican Party nominates the most liberal candidate they can find then it won't matter who wins in November. Given that Hillary is likely toast Democrats could choose a centerist candidate and be assured of not only their economically captive base voting for him/her/it but also a slew of Republicans who refuse to understand that voting for "the lesser of evils" is still voting for evil and who will cast their ballots for the Democrat, more moderate, candidate.

 

[Stephanie]

I bet you said the same thing about the midterms, right before the dems took the shellacking of their lives

Come on now. for them that was a fluke and we should know this whole country just love em those Progressive/democrats...

good grief. some people in the dem party just never will accept reality

What they are missing is that the midterms were a clear sign people are recognizing Dem policies are not working. And now Obama has blundered Iran away and cemented his position as quite possibly the worst foreign policy president in history and guess who helped him mold that policy while Sec of State?

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

that's what I'm hoping for.

Carter was at least a likeable failure...Obama has been just downright ugly and failure for us

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I bet you said the same thing about the midterms, right before the dems took the shellacking of their lives

Come on now. for them that was a fluke and we should know this whole country just love em those Progressive/democrats...

good grief. some people in the dem party just never will accept reality

What they are missing is that the midterms were a clear sign people are recognizing Dem policies are not working. And now Obama has blundered Iran away and cemented his position as quite possibly the worst foreign policy president in history and guess who helped him mold that policy while Sec of State?

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

that's what I'm hoping for.

Carter was at least a likeable failure...Obama has been just downright ugly and failure for us

Obungles has a punchable face

 

[BULLDOG]

I bet you said the same thing about the midterms, right before the dems took the shellacking of their lives

Come on now. for them that was a fluke and we should know this whole country just love em those Progressive/democrats...

good grief. some people in the dem party just never will accept reality

No. You haven't been listening. I know you want us to be upset about the midterms, and I will admit a little disappointment, but historical precedent said the right was going to win and it did. No surprise, no ashes and sack cloth. The right is the only one to describe it as a fluke.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I bet you said the same thing about the midterms, right before the dems took the shellacking of their lives

Come on now. for them that was a fluke and we should know this whole country just love em those Progressive/democrats...

good grief. some people in the dem party just never will accept reality

What they are missing is that the midterms were a clear sign people are recognizing Dem policies are not working. And now Obama has blundered Iran away and cemented his position as quite possibly the worst foreign policy president in history and guess who helped him mold that policy while Sec of State?

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

Carter 1977

Jan 7.5%
Feb 7.6
March 7.4
April 7.2
May 7.0
June 7.2
July 6.9
Aug 7.0
Sept 6.8
Oct 6.8
Nov 6.8
Dec 6.4

1978
Jan 6.4
Feb 6.3
March 6.3
Apr 6.1
May 6.0
Jun 5.9
July 6.2
Aug 5.9
Sep 6.0
Oct 5.8
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1979
Jan 5.9
Feb 5.9
Mar 5.8
Apr 5.8
May 5.6
Jun 5.7
Jul 5.7
Aug 6.0
Sept 5.9
Oct 6.0
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1980
Jan 6.3
Feb 6.3
Mar 6.3
Apr 6.9
May 7.5
Jun 7.6
Jul 7.8
Aug 7.7
Sept 7.5
Oct 7.5
Nov 7.5
Dec 7.2

01/1981 - Unemployment rate 7.5% …. Reagan sworn in.
02/1981 - 7.4%
03/1981 - 7.4%
04/1981 - 7.2%
05/1981 - 7.5%
06/1981 - 7.5%
07/1981 - 7.2%
08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1% and says unemployment will DROP to 6.9%.
09/1981 - 7.6%
10/1981 - 7.9%
11/1981 - 8.3%
12/1981 - 8.5%

01/1982 - 8.6%
02/1982 - 8.9%
03/1982 - 9.0%
04/1982 - 9.3%
05/1982 - 9.4%
06/1982 - 9.6%
07/1982 - 9.8%
08/1982 - 9.8%
09/1982 - 10.1%
10/1982 - 10.4%
11/1982 - 10.8% * Unemployment HITS a post WW2 RECORD of 10.8%.
12/1982 - 10.8%

01/1983 - 10.4%
02/1983 - 10.4%
03/1983 - 10.3%
04/1983 - 10.3%
05/1983 - 10.1%
06/1983 - 10.1%
07/1983 - 9.4%
06/1983 - 9.5%
07/1983 - 9.4%
08/1983 - 9.5%
09/1983 - 9.2%
10/1983 - 8.8%
11/1983 - 8.5%
12/1983 - 8.3%

01/1984 - 8.0%
02/1984 - 7.8%


It took Reagan 28 MONTHS to get unemployment rate back down below 8 percent.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


AGAIN, CARTER HAD 9+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS GROWTH IN 4 YEARS VERSUS 14 MILLION FOR REAGAN'S 8

Jan 1979 65,636,000
Jan 1981 74,677,000

INCREASE OF 9,041,000 Total private IN 4 YEARS

Jan 1981 74,677,000
Jan 1989 89,394,000

14,717,00 Total private IN 8 YEARS

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I THOUGHT CARTER WAS HORRIBLE? LOL


The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.
Vox Verax The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1%

Reagan cut taxes for everybody.

 

[Dad2three]

Come on now. for them that was a fluke and we should know this whole country just love em those Progressive/democrats...

good grief. some people in the dem party just never will accept reality

What they are missing is that the midterms were a clear sign people are recognizing Dem policies are not working. And now Obama has blundered Iran away and cemented his position as quite possibly the worst foreign policy president in history and guess who helped him mold that policy while Sec of State?

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

Carter 1977

Jan 7.5%
Feb 7.6
March 7.4
April 7.2
May 7.0
June 7.2
July 6.9
Aug 7.0
Sept 6.8
Oct 6.8
Nov 6.8
Dec 6.4

1978
Jan 6.4
Feb 6.3
March 6.3
Apr 6.1
May 6.0
Jun 5.9
July 6.2
Aug 5.9
Sep 6.0
Oct 5.8
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1979
Jan 5.9
Feb 5.9
Mar 5.8
Apr 5.8
May 5.6
Jun 5.7
Jul 5.7
Aug 6.0
Sept 5.9
Oct 6.0
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1980
Jan 6.3
Feb 6.3
Mar 6.3
Apr 6.9
May 7.5
Jun 7.6
Jul 7.8
Aug 7.7
Sept 7.5
Oct 7.5
Nov 7.5
Dec 7.2

01/1981 - Unemployment rate 7.5% …. Reagan sworn in.
02/1981 - 7.4%
03/1981 - 7.4%
04/1981 - 7.2%
05/1981 - 7.5%
06/1981 - 7.5%
07/1981 - 7.2%
08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1% and says unemployment will DROP to 6.9%.
09/1981 - 7.6%
10/1981 - 7.9%
11/1981 - 8.3%
12/1981 - 8.5%

01/1982 - 8.6%
02/1982 - 8.9%
03/1982 - 9.0%
04/1982 - 9.3%
05/1982 - 9.4%
06/1982 - 9.6%
07/1982 - 9.8%
08/1982 - 9.8%
09/1982 - 10.1%
10/1982 - 10.4%
11/1982 - 10.8% * Unemployment HITS a post WW2 RECORD of 10.8%.
12/1982 - 10.8%

01/1983 - 10.4%
02/1983 - 10.4%
03/1983 - 10.3%
04/1983 - 10.3%
05/1983 - 10.1%
06/1983 - 10.1%
07/1983 - 9.4%
06/1983 - 9.5%
07/1983 - 9.4%
08/1983 - 9.5%
09/1983 - 9.2%
10/1983 - 8.8%
11/1983 - 8.5%
12/1983 - 8.3%

01/1984 - 8.0%
02/1984 - 7.8%


It took Reagan 28 MONTHS to get unemployment rate back down below 8 percent.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


AGAIN, CARTER HAD 9+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS GROWTH IN 4 YEARS VERSUS 14 MILLION FOR REAGAN'S 8

Jan 1979 65,636,000
Jan 1981 74,677,000

INCREASE OF 9,041,000 Total private IN 4 YEARS

Jan 1981 74,677,000
Jan 1989 89,394,000

14,717,00 Total private IN 8 YEARS

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I THOUGHT CARTER WAS HORRIBLE? LOL


The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.
Vox Verax The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1%

Reagan cut taxes for everybody.

Sure he did Bubba,THAT'S why right wing Mises says this:


Tax Cuts. One of the few areas where Reaganomists claim success without embarrassment is taxation. Didn't the Reagan administration, after all, slash income taxes in 1981, and provide both tax cuts and "fairness" in its highly touted tax reform law of 1986? Hasn't Ronald Reagan, in the teeth of opposition, heroically held the line against all tax increases?

The answer, unfortunately, is no. In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined. The reason is that, on the whole, the cut in income tax rates was more than offset by two forms of tax increase.

Mises Daily Mises Institute


YOU KNOW THE $2.7+ TRILLION THAT SS RAISED WHEN RONNIE "SAVED SS" AND WAS USED TO HIDE THE TRUE COSTS OF OPERATING GOV'T AND RONNIE/DUBYA TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH?


Boy do I miss honest conservatives like Goldwater

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What they are missing is that the midterms were a clear sign people are recognizing Dem policies are not working. And now Obama has blundered Iran away and cemented his position as quite possibly the worst foreign policy president in history and guess who helped him mold that policy while Sec of State?

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

Carter 1977

Jan 7.5%
Feb 7.6
March 7.4
April 7.2
May 7.0
June 7.2
July 6.9
Aug 7.0
Sept 6.8
Oct 6.8
Nov 6.8
Dec 6.4

1978
Jan 6.4
Feb 6.3
March 6.3
Apr 6.1
May 6.0
Jun 5.9
July 6.2
Aug 5.9
Sep 6.0
Oct 5.8
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1979
Jan 5.9
Feb 5.9
Mar 5.8
Apr 5.8
May 5.6
Jun 5.7
Jul 5.7
Aug 6.0
Sept 5.9
Oct 6.0
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1980
Jan 6.3
Feb 6.3
Mar 6.3
Apr 6.9
May 7.5
Jun 7.6
Jul 7.8
Aug 7.7
Sept 7.5
Oct 7.5
Nov 7.5
Dec 7.2

01/1981 - Unemployment rate 7.5% …. Reagan sworn in.
02/1981 - 7.4%
03/1981 - 7.4%
04/1981 - 7.2%
05/1981 - 7.5%
06/1981 - 7.5%
07/1981 - 7.2%
08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1% and says unemployment will DROP to 6.9%.
09/1981 - 7.6%
10/1981 - 7.9%
11/1981 - 8.3%
12/1981 - 8.5%

01/1982 - 8.6%
02/1982 - 8.9%
03/1982 - 9.0%
04/1982 - 9.3%
05/1982 - 9.4%
06/1982 - 9.6%
07/1982 - 9.8%
08/1982 - 9.8%
09/1982 - 10.1%
10/1982 - 10.4%
11/1982 - 10.8% * Unemployment HITS a post WW2 RECORD of 10.8%.
12/1982 - 10.8%

01/1983 - 10.4%
02/1983 - 10.4%
03/1983 - 10.3%
04/1983 - 10.3%
05/1983 - 10.1%
06/1983 - 10.1%
07/1983 - 9.4%
06/1983 - 9.5%
07/1983 - 9.4%
08/1983 - 9.5%
09/1983 - 9.2%
10/1983 - 8.8%
11/1983 - 8.5%
12/1983 - 8.3%

01/1984 - 8.0%
02/1984 - 7.8%


It took Reagan 28 MONTHS to get unemployment rate back down below 8 percent.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


AGAIN, CARTER HAD 9+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS GROWTH IN 4 YEARS VERSUS 14 MILLION FOR REAGAN'S 8

Jan 1979 65,636,000
Jan 1981 74,677,000

INCREASE OF 9,041,000 Total private IN 4 YEARS

Jan 1981 74,677,000
Jan 1989 89,394,000

14,717,00 Total private IN 8 YEARS

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I THOUGHT CARTER WAS HORRIBLE? LOL


The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.
Vox Verax The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1%

Reagan cut taxes for everybody.

Sure he did Bubba,THAT'S why right wing Mises says this:


Tax Cuts. One of the few areas where Reaganomists claim success without embarrassment is taxation. Didn't the Reagan administration, after all, slash income taxes in 1981, and provide both tax cuts and "fairness" in its highly touted tax reform law of 1986? Hasn't Ronald Reagan, in the teeth of opposition, heroically held the line against all tax increases?

The answer, unfortunately, is no. In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined. The reason is that, on the whole, the cut in income tax rates was more than offset by two forms of tax increase.

Mises Daily Mises Institute


YOU KNOW THE $2.7+ TRILLION THAT SS RAISED WHEN RONNIE "SAVED SS" AND WAS USED TO HIDE THE TRUE COSTS OF OPERATING GOV'T AND RONNIE/DUBYA TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH?


Boy do I miss honest conservatives like Goldwater

One was "bracket creep," a term for inflation quietly but effectively raising one into higher tax brackets,

And then he indexed the brackets for inflation.
So the idiotic claim here is that cutting taxes didn't cut taxes, because..............inflation.
So I guess there was no inflation, before the tax cuts. LOL!
It's hilarious to see you quoting (and agreeing with, I guess) this goofy libertarian.

The second source of higher taxes was Social Security taxation, which kept increasing, and which helped taxes go up overall.

I know, it was awful when the Social Security taxes were hiked from 5.7% all the way up to 6.2%. That totally wiped out the much, much larger drop in income tax rates. Not.

THAT'S why right wing Mises

LOL!

 

[Dad2three]

It said loud and clear we don't WANT anymore of you Progressives and Obama running over us...so the time could be right for a Conservative/Republican...just like after Jimma Carter...in fact Obama has been even worse what he's brought down on us

It took a Carter to get a Reagan and that's what we need now.

Carter 1977

Jan 7.5%
Feb 7.6
March 7.4
April 7.2
May 7.0
June 7.2
July 6.9
Aug 7.0
Sept 6.8
Oct 6.8
Nov 6.8
Dec 6.4

1978
Jan 6.4
Feb 6.3
March 6.3
Apr 6.1
May 6.0
Jun 5.9
July 6.2
Aug 5.9
Sep 6.0
Oct 5.8
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1979
Jan 5.9
Feb 5.9
Mar 5.8
Apr 5.8
May 5.6
Jun 5.7
Jul 5.7
Aug 6.0
Sept 5.9
Oct 6.0
Nov 5.9
Dec 6.0

1980
Jan 6.3
Feb 6.3
Mar 6.3
Apr 6.9
May 7.5
Jun 7.6
Jul 7.8
Aug 7.7
Sept 7.5
Oct 7.5
Nov 7.5
Dec 7.2

01/1981 - Unemployment rate 7.5% …. Reagan sworn in.
02/1981 - 7.4%
03/1981 - 7.4%
04/1981 - 7.2%
05/1981 - 7.5%
06/1981 - 7.5%
07/1981 - 7.2%
08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1% and says unemployment will DROP to 6.9%.
09/1981 - 7.6%
10/1981 - 7.9%
11/1981 - 8.3%
12/1981 - 8.5%

01/1982 - 8.6%
02/1982 - 8.9%
03/1982 - 9.0%
04/1982 - 9.3%
05/1982 - 9.4%
06/1982 - 9.6%
07/1982 - 9.8%
08/1982 - 9.8%
09/1982 - 10.1%
10/1982 - 10.4%
11/1982 - 10.8% * Unemployment HITS a post WW2 RECORD of 10.8%.
12/1982 - 10.8%

01/1983 - 10.4%
02/1983 - 10.4%
03/1983 - 10.3%
04/1983 - 10.3%
05/1983 - 10.1%
06/1983 - 10.1%
07/1983 - 9.4%
06/1983 - 9.5%
07/1983 - 9.4%
08/1983 - 9.5%
09/1983 - 9.2%
10/1983 - 8.8%
11/1983 - 8.5%
12/1983 - 8.3%

01/1984 - 8.0%
02/1984 - 7.8%


It took Reagan 28 MONTHS to get unemployment rate back down below 8 percent.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


AGAIN, CARTER HAD 9+ MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS GROWTH IN 4 YEARS VERSUS 14 MILLION FOR REAGAN'S 8

Jan 1979 65,636,000
Jan 1981 74,677,000

INCREASE OF 9,041,000 Total private IN 4 YEARS

Jan 1981 74,677,000
Jan 1989 89,394,000

14,717,00 Total private IN 8 YEARS

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I THOUGHT CARTER WAS HORRIBLE? LOL


The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration.
Vox Verax The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

08/1981 - 7.4% * Reagan CUTS taxes for top 1%

Reagan cut taxes for everybody.

Sure he did Bubba,THAT'S why right wing Mises says this:


Tax Cuts. One of the few areas where Reaganomists claim success without embarrassment is taxation. Didn't the Reagan administration, after all, slash income taxes in 1981, and provide both tax cuts and "fairness" in its highly touted tax reform law of 1986? Hasn't Ronald Reagan, in the teeth of opposition, heroically held the line against all tax increases?

The answer, unfortunately, is no. In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined. The reason is that, on the whole, the cut in income tax rates was more than offset by two forms of tax increase.

Mises Daily Mises Institute


YOU KNOW THE $2.7+ TRILLION THAT SS RAISED WHEN RONNIE "SAVED SS" AND WAS USED TO HIDE THE TRUE COSTS OF OPERATING GOV'T AND RONNIE/DUBYA TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH?


Boy do I miss honest conservatives like Goldwater

One was "bracket creep," a term for inflation quietly but effectively raising one into higher tax brackets,

And then he indexed the brackets for inflation.
So the idiotic claim here is that cutting taxes didn't cut taxes, because..............inflation.
So I guess there was no inflation, before the tax cuts. LOL!
It's hilarious to see you quoting (and agreeing with, I guess) this goofy libertarian.

The second source of higher taxes was Social Security taxation, which kept increasing, and which helped taxes go up overall.

I know, it was awful when the Social Security taxes were hiked from 5.7% all the way up to 6.2%. That totally wiped out the much, much larger drop in income tax rates. Not.

THAT'S why right wing Mises

LOL!

"One was "bracket creep," a term for inflation quietly but effectively raising one into higher tax brackets,

And then he indexed the brackets for inflation."


SURE HE DID BUBBA, SURE

History of the Alternative Minimum Tax

In 1982, President Reagan enacted the present day Alternative Minimum Tax or AMT. The AMT is a separate tax rate that is parallel to the Federal Income Tax. Long story short, you get to pay whichever is higher. President Reagan must have forgotten about 1981, because AMT was not indexed to inflation. This lapse trapped more and more people every year. AMT was ‘patched’ eleven times from 1986 to 2012 under presidents Bush 41, Clinton, George W, and Barack Obama. For the record, the predecessor to AMT goes back to the prehistoric days of 1969.

Ronald Regan Archives - Taxes for Everyman - Joseph Cahill Associates WorthTax




For many middle- and low-income families, this tax increase more than undid any gains from Mr. Reagan's income tax cuts. In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes. By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent—but the payroll tax share was up to 11.8 percent, and the combined urden was up, not down.

For those who don’t want to do the math, Krugman’s “middle-income families with children” were paying a combined burden of 18.4 percent by 1988, up from 17.7 percent in 1980. For these middle-class families, Reagan—who did reduce taxes overall—had actually raised their tax burden.


Krugman offers a useful point counteracting a decade of spinning


LOL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

 

[Dad2three]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

 

[Dad2three]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

 

[Dad2three]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

BZZ WRONG

AGAIN:



In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined.


National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase (or at best, the same rate as before) and, of the majority that did enjoy marginal tax cuts, only 11% got reductions of 10% or more. In short, most of the tax reductions were negligible. Not only that; the Tax Reform Act, these authors reckoned, would lower savings and investment overall because of the huge increases in taxes on business and on capital gains. Moreover savings were also hurt by the tax law's removal of tax deductibility on contributions to IRAs.
Mises Daily Mises Institute

OF COURSE THE SUPER WEALTHY DID GREAT

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In 1980, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates, middle-income families with children paid 8.2 percent of their income in income taxes, and 9.5 percent in payroll taxes.

Reagan didn't raise payroll taxes from the 1980 levels. He raised them from the 1983 levels. I'm shocked your source would lie about that.

By 1988 the income tax share was down to 6.6 percent

See, told you he didn't just cut rates for the top 1%, as you claimed earlier.
Liar!

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

BZZ WRONG

AGAIN:



In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined.


National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase (or at best, the same rate as before) and, of the majority that did enjoy marginal tax cuts, only 11% got reductions of 10% or more. In short, most of the tax reductions were negligible. Not only that; the Tax Reform Act, these authors reckoned, would lower savings and investment overall because of the huge increases in taxes on business and on capital gains. Moreover savings were also hurt by the tax law's removal of tax deductibility on contributions to IRAs.
Mises Daily Mises Institute

OF COURSE THE SUPER WEALTHY DID GREAT

National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase

The rates in every bracket were cut. Somehow that was a tax increase? LOL!
Liberals are stupid.....and really bad at math.

 

[Dad2three]

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

BZZ WRONG

AGAIN:



In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined.


National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase (or at best, the same rate as before) and, of the majority that did enjoy marginal tax cuts, only 11% got reductions of 10% or more. In short, most of the tax reductions were negligible. Not only that; the Tax Reform Act, these authors reckoned, would lower savings and investment overall because of the huge increases in taxes on business and on capital gains. Moreover savings were also hurt by the tax law's removal of tax deductibility on contributions to IRAs.
Mises Daily Mises Institute

OF COURSE THE SUPER WEALTHY DID GREAT

National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase

The rates in every bracket were cut. Somehow that was a tax increase? LOL!
Liberals are stupid.....and really bad at math.

Got it. You'll continue to be a moron and willfully ignorant of the difference between tax rates and tax burden. I'm shocked, lol

 

[Dad2three]

Boy do I miss honest conservatives THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN. Weird right?

Yes, Reagan increased SS taxes by over $2.7+ trillion the next 25 years, that Ronnie/Dubya used to hide the true costs of tax cuts for the rich!!!

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

BZZ WRONG

AGAIN:



In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined.


National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase (or at best, the same rate as before) and, of the majority that did enjoy marginal tax cuts, only 11% got reductions of 10% or more. In short, most of the tax reductions were negligible. Not only that; the Tax Reform Act, these authors reckoned, would lower savings and investment overall because of the huge increases in taxes on business and on capital gains. Moreover savings were also hurt by the tax law's removal of tax deductibility on contributions to IRAs.
Mises Daily Mises Institute

OF COURSE THE SUPER WEALTHY DID GREAT

National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase

The rates in every bracket were cut. Somehow that was a tax increase? LOL!
Liberals are stupid.....and really bad at math.

I'll note you keep swerving Bubba, when it's shown you are full of sh*t Bubs

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

THE POINT IS THE MIDDLE 40% OF US SAW THEIR FEDERAL TAX BURDEN INCREASE UNDER REAGAN.

The point is, Reagan didn't change payroll taxes until 1983, liar.
Weird, right?

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him AS HE GUTTED TAXES FOR THE RICH Bubba

Yes agreed, Ronnie increased SS taxes

Yup, he increased them after 1983.

AND the federal tax burden on the middle class increased under him

As your own source showed, his income tax cuts on the middle class were larger than his SS tax hike on the middle class.

BZZ WRONG

AGAIN:



In the first place, the famous "tax cut" of 1981 did not cut taxes at all. It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined.


National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase (or at best, the same rate as before) and, of the majority that did enjoy marginal tax cuts, only 11% got reductions of 10% or more. In short, most of the tax reductions were negligible. Not only that; the Tax Reform Act, these authors reckoned, would lower savings and investment overall because of the huge increases in taxes on business and on capital gains. Moreover savings were also hurt by the tax law's removal of tax deductibility on contributions to IRAs.
Mises Daily Mises Institute

OF COURSE THE SUPER WEALTHY DID GREAT

National Bureau study by Hausman and Poterba on the Tax Reform Act shows that over 40% of the nation's taxpayers suffered a marginal tax increase

The rates in every bracket were cut. Somehow that was a tax increase? LOL!
Liberals are stupid.....and really bad at math.

Got it. You'll continue to be a moron and willfully ignorant of the difference between tax rates and tax burden. I'm shocked, lol

Obviously, cutting the rate raises the burden....if you're a liberal idiot.

 

[HenryBHough]

So Reagan is alleged to have raised taxes and Democrats don't like that?

Get friggin' REAL!

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

So Reagan is alleged to have raised taxes and Democrats don't like that?

Get friggin' REAL!

I'm loathe to agree with the hyperpartisan clown brigade on anything, but yeah. Isn't it pretty common knowledge he raised taxes?