Why Grenfell Tower Burned: Regulators Put Cost Before Safety

[longknife]

Residents of Grenfell Tower had complained for years that the 24-story public housing block invited catastrophe. It lacked fire alarms, sprinklers and a fire escape. It had only a single staircase. And there were concerns about a new aluminum facade that was supposed to improve the building — but was now whisking the flames skyward.

The facade, Mr. Adam said, “burned like a fire that you pour petrol on.”

What’s left out of this essay is that the refitting was also designed along environmental lines. They wanted Green apartment buildings.

If you click on the photo at the link it will take you to 10 photos. The story is @ Why Grenfell Tower Burned: Regulators Put Cost Before Safety

 

[percysunshine]

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Environmental virtue signalling comes at a price.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Actually, one of the causes that they are looking into is the cladding they used on the outside of the building to make it look nice, because one of the complaints of the residents was a concern that the cladding was flammable.

Well, turns out it was, and there are about 6 other buildings that have been found to have bad cladding as well. Saw it on VICE news the other day.

 

[BlackFlag]

Residents of Grenfell Tower had complained for years that the 24-story public housing block invited catastrophe. It lacked fire alarms, sprinklers and a fire escape. It had only a single staircase. And there were concerns about a new aluminum facade that was supposed to improve the building — but was now whisking the flames skyward.

The facade, Mr. Adam said, “burned like a fire that you pour petrol on.”

What’s left out of this essay is that the refitting was also designed along environmental lines. They wanted Green apartment buildings.

If you click on the photo at the link it will take you to 10 photos. The story is @ Why Grenfell Tower Burned: Regulators Put Cost Before Safety

^ dumb liberal was to kill facade refitting industry by increasing regulations

 

[MisterBeale]

Gee. . . I'm just wondering why it didn't collapse in it's own foot print.

According to the new revised physics of the Universe, that's what's supposed to happen.

Opposite of 9/11: 2 Buildings in 48 Hours Engulfed in Flames, Neither Collapse into Own Footprint

High-rise building with 27 floors goes up in flames, yet doesn't uniformly collapse like WTC 7... ever wonder why?

 

[BlackFlag]

Gee. . . I'm just wondering why it didn't collapse in it's own foot print.

According to the new revised physics of the Universe, that's what's supposed to happen.

Opposite of 9/11: 2 Buildings in 48 Hours Engulfed in Flames, Neither Collapse into Own Footprint

High-rise building with 27 floors goes up in flames, yet doesn't uniformly collapse like WTC 7... ever wonder why?

The smoking gun!!!

 

[Dalia]

Director of company responsible for Grenfell Tower refurbishment admits he is clueless over what cladding was made from !

Company director of Grenfell Tower refurb uncertain what cladding was made from

 

[waltky]

60 more high-rise buildings at risk of catastrophic fire in London...

UK finds 60 buildings at fire risk
WARNED OF RISKS: An insurance association said it had told authorities that external cladding made from combustible material can cause fire to spread

The fallout from London’s devastating tower block blaze continued on Sunday with the government announcing 60 high-rises have failed safety tests, as an insurance body said they had warned officials of the fire risks. The massive operation to test tower blocks follows the Grenfell Tower inferno earlier this month that is presumed to have killed 79 people after it spread at shocking speed. Suspicion has fallen on the cladding installed on the outside of Grenfell and urgent checks have found such material used on 60 other residential buildings has failed fire tests. “All landlords and fire and rescue services for these local authorities have been alerted to the results and we are in touch with all of them to support and monitor follow-up action,” local government minister Sajid Javid said.

The new figure is a significant jump from the 34 high-rise buildings in England deemed unsafe by the government on Saturday. While many people have been able to stay in their homes despite the fire risk, thousands of residents from 650 flats in north London were evacuated on Saturday. An inspection showed four of the five Chalcots Estate towers in Camden were at risk over cladding, fire doors, gas pipes and insulation, prompting a chaotic evacuation with temporary accommodation offered in a local leisure center and hotels.

A man walks past Dorney Tower residential block on the Chalcots Estate in London​

Despite the safety fears, about 200 residents have refused to leave their homes, some of whom suffer from agoraphobia, local authority leader Georgia Gould said. “I’m going myself back to the blocks to knock on doors and have those conversations,” she told BBC television of her efforts to convince residents to leave. Gould refused to be drawn on whether there was a deadline to evacuate residents, saying: “The last thing I want to do is force people out of their homes.”

It is up to each local authority to decide whether to evacuate residents from blocks which have failed fire tests, a spokesman for the communities and local government department told reporters. As tests continue to avoid a repeat of the horror which broke out at the Grenfell Tower on June 14, the Association of British Insurers (ABI) said it had warned of the risks posed by cladding in feedback to a government policy document. “In our response to the government’s housing white paper in May this year we drew attention to the fact that external cladding made from combustible material can cause fire to spread,” ABI spokesman Malcolm Tarling told reporters by e-mail.

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[Dalia]

60 more high-rise buildings at risk of catastrophic fire in London...

UK finds 60 buildings at fire risk
WARNED OF RISKS: An insurance association said it had told authorities that external cladding made from combustible material can cause fire to spread

The fallout from London’s devastating tower block blaze continued on Sunday with the government announcing 60 high-rises have failed safety tests, as an insurance body said they had warned officials of the fire risks. The massive operation to test tower blocks follows the Grenfell Tower inferno earlier this month that is presumed to have killed 79 people after it spread at shocking speed. Suspicion has fallen on the cladding installed on the outside of Grenfell and urgent checks have found such material used on 60 other residential buildings has failed fire tests. “All landlords and fire and rescue services for these local authorities have been alerted to the results and we are in touch with all of them to support and monitor follow-up action,” local government minister Sajid Javid said.

The new figure is a significant jump from the 34 high-rise buildings in England deemed unsafe by the government on Saturday. While many people have been able to stay in their homes despite the fire risk, thousands of residents from 650 flats in north London were evacuated on Saturday. An inspection showed four of the five Chalcots Estate towers in Camden were at risk over cladding, fire doors, gas pipes and insulation, prompting a chaotic evacuation with temporary accommodation offered in a local leisure center and hotels.

A man walks past Dorney Tower residential block on the Chalcots Estate in London​

Despite the safety fears, about 200 residents have refused to leave their homes, some of whom suffer from agoraphobia, local authority leader Georgia Gould said. “I’m going myself back to the blocks to knock on doors and have those conversations,” she told BBC television of her efforts to convince residents to leave. Gould refused to be drawn on whether there was a deadline to evacuate residents, saying: “The last thing I want to do is force people out of their homes.”

It is up to each local authority to decide whether to evacuate residents from blocks which have failed fire tests, a spokesman for the communities and local government department told reporters. As tests continue to avoid a repeat of the horror which broke out at the Grenfell Tower on June 14, the Association of British Insurers (ABI) said it had warned of the risks posed by cladding in feedback to a government policy document. “In our response to the government’s housing white paper in May this year we drew attention to the fact that external cladding made from combustible material can cause fire to spread,” ABI spokesman Malcolm Tarling told reporters by e-mail.

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Yes, and some people do not want to leave their apartment.
They could have checked the product before using it is great anything.
People burned alive, these are assholes that have made some saving on the back of people's lives

 

[idb]

Residents of Grenfell Tower had complained for years that the 24-story public housing block invited catastrophe. It lacked fire alarms, sprinklers and a fire escape. It had only a single staircase. And there were concerns about a new aluminum facade that was supposed to improve the building — but was now whisking the flames skyward.

The facade, Mr. Adam said, “burned like a fire that you pour petrol on.”

What’s left out of this essay is that the refitting was also designed along environmental lines. They wanted Green apartment buildings.

If you click on the photo at the link it will take you to 10 photos. The story is @ Why Grenfell Tower Burned: Regulators Put Cost Before Safety

^ dumb liberal was to kill facade refitting industry by increasing regulations

Yeah, because obviously less regulations is the way to prevent this.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I watched VICE news do a couple of segments on this, and in one of the interviews of people who had lived there, they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

I'm still wondering why a fire safety system and sprinklers were not installed in the first place when they built the building.

 

[Dalia]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

 

[waltky]

Better to be safe than sorry...

German high-rise evacuated over insulation concerns in wake of Grenfell disaster
Wednesday 28th June, 2017 - A western German city has decided to evacuate an 11-storey apartment block because of concerns over exterior insulation similar to that of Grenfell Tower.

City authorities in Wuppertal said the fire risk at the building had been reassessed following the fire in London that killed at least 79 people, news agency dpa reported.

The 80 residents were told they could return to their flats when the cladding had been removed​

It said replacement accommodation is available for the residents and they can return to their apartments once the insulation is removed. In all, 72 people are believed to be affected.

Aluminium composite panels used as exterior cladding are believed to have rapidly spread the fire in London on June 14, trapping residents in their homes before firefighters could save them.

German high-rise evacuated over insulation concerns in wake of Grenfell disaster - Independent.ie

See also:

Grenfell Tower fire: German flats cleared amid cladding fears
Tue, 27 Jun 2017: An 11-storey block is evacuated in Wuppertal because it has panels similar to Grenfell Tower's.

An 11-storey block of flats is being evacuated in the German city of Wuppertal because its facade has panels similar to those that caught fire at Grenfell Tower in London. At least 79 people died in the London fire and authorities in Wuppertal said the disaster had prompted a reassessment of security. The German block was built in the 1960s and houses at least 72 people. The type of cladding used at Grenfell Tower was reportedly banned in Germany. Since the 1980s only non-flammable material can be used on the external walls of buildings greater than 22m in height.

Police cordoned off the building in the Hilgershöhe district of Wuppertal on Tuesday afternoon and buses were made available to move residents to alternative accommodation. "There is danger in delaying, so we have to deal with it immediately," Martina Eckermann told Der Westen website. The residents were told they should be able to return to their homes as soon as the cladding had been removed. Since the 14 June Grenfell Tower fire, authorities have begun inspecting flats across England and found that cladding on 95 high-rise buildings is unsafe. At the weekend, hundreds of flats were evacuated from the Camden area of north London because of safety concerns over cladding and other fire risks.

The fire at Grenfell Tower started on the fourth floor and spread to the 24th floor​

During the last fire inspection of the Wuppertal block, flammable insulation material was found with a wooden sublayer, and concerns were raised about narrow corridors and a lack of fire alarms, the head of the city's building department was quoted as saying. Escape routes could quickly become filled with smoke in the event of a fire. Residents were told to take only one suitcase before the building was sealed to prevent looting. They were due to be moved to flats that had been intended for refugees but were now empty. Testing is expected to take place on another 70 buildings in Wuppertal.

Grenfell Tower fire: German flats cleared amid cladding fears - BBC News

 

[idb]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

 

[Dalia]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

Hey, learn to read before call me a cow, fuck off no good leftie Ok Buy yourself a pair of glasses and the post is from Lucy Hamilton i say in my post and she is not a cow Fuck you she give a link.

 

[idb]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

Hey, learn to read before call me a cow, fuck off no good leftie Ok Buy yourself a pair of glasses and the post is from Lucy Hamilton i say in my post and she is not a cow Fuck you she give a link.

And you re-posted it.

 

[Dalia]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

Hey, learn to read before call me a cow, fuck off no good leftie Ok Buy yourself a pair of glasses and the post is from Lucy Hamilton i say in my post and she is not a cow Fuck you she give a link.

And you re-posted it.

Yes, ...and ? you got the link the picture what do you need more ?

 

[idb]

I they said that the cladding was put on the building to make it look "nicer" for the rich people living around them.

.

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

Hey, learn to read before call me a cow, fuck off no good leftie Ok Buy yourself a pair of glasses and the post is from Lucy Hamilton i say in my post and she is not a cow Fuck you she give a link.

And you re-posted it.

Yes, ...and ? you got the link the picture what do you more ?

You repost an article saying that it shows how 'leftists' are being divisive then try to back off any responsibility.
Fuck off.

And fuck off with your 'leftie' accusation.
Is doing research, looking at a subject critically and having empathy reserved only for 'lefties'?
It's a sad world in that case.
Fuck off again.

 

[Dalia]

Hello,

A great post from Lucy Hamilton at a other thread that explain the Inside of the Grenfell Tower.

I'm not sure how many of those people were technically poor as in poverty.

Here are some pictures of what those flats in Grenfell Tower looked like before the horrendous disaster and are people in Britain considered poor if the rent on those flats was £2,000 a month? I'm sorry poor people do NOT live in apartment buildings where the flats cost £2,000 a month to rent.

So this terrible situation has nothing to do with the economics of the people who lived in Grenfell Tower, but Leftists WANT to use this as a Rich vs Poor political football to attempt to cause division, which is a typical Leftist Strategy of driving wedges and pitting one group of people against the other and to use an horrific tragedy as Grenfell Tower to do this is lower than low.

Do poor people live in flats like the one below from Grenfell Tower? I think not.

London fire: Inside the £2,000-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

"A huge fire has raged through a 24-storey block of flats in north Kensington, killing at least 12 people and leaving many more missing or injured.

The inferno broke out at Grenfell Tower, home to hundreds of residents in the Lancaster West Estate shortly before 1am on Wednesday morning.

The blaze is thought to have started on the third or fourth floor before destroying flat after flat as flames and smoke ripped through the block.

Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, is owned by Kensington and Chelsea council and run by its housing association, Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation.

The block contains 120 flats made up of a mix of social housing and also private homes which are sold or rented out by KCTMO.

Last year a multi-million pound refurbishment of the block was completed which included work to modernise the tower with cladding and replacement windows.

One of the two-bed flats, on the 18th floor of the building, was listed to rent at the end of the last year for £1,971 a month.

Photos of the inside of the flat shows a fitted kitchen, open plan living room, two double bedrooms, bathroom and separate toilet.

The advert boasts of the flat’s location near to Latimer Road Tube station and says the property is well insulated”.

Inside the £2k-a-month Grenfell Tower flats before the blaze

Lucy Hamilton post at the forum :

How much is a poor persons life worth ?

Do some research you miserable cow.
You accuse others of being divisive over this issue but it's people like you that are trying to start conflict.

Since its construction in the 1970s, Grenfell Tower has been considered social housing, which means that rent is maintained at a low price by law. It’s owned by a local council that’s legally obligated to provide housing for people in its neighborhood who are homeless or in need. Units are supposed to be kept at affordable prices for people with low incomes.

When the building was constructed, it was completely dedicated to affordable social housing, said David Ireland, the director of the Building and Social Housing Foundation based in the UK. Since then, however, some units have been bought by residents who often rent them out at a drastically higher market price. Approximately 20 percent of the units in Grenfell Tower were rented at more expensive rates.
Grenfell Tower, explained: how a deadly fire in London became a political crisis

Hey, learn to read before call me a cow, fuck off no good leftie Ok Buy yourself a pair of glasses and the post is from Lucy Hamilton i say in my post and she is not a cow Fuck you she give a link.

And you re-posted it.

Yes, ...and ? you got the link the picture what do you more ?

You repost an article saying that it shows how 'leftists' are being divisive then try to back off any responsibility.
Fuck off.

And fuck off with your 'leftie' accusation.
Is doing research, looking at a subject critically and having empathy reserved only for 'lefties'?
It's a sad world in that case.
Fuck off again.

What do expect after the way you act you no good leftie coming and right away call me a cow go and learn how to behave.

 

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Yanno idb, I wouldn't call Dalia a cow. Cows are useful.