Why Don't the Democrats Discuss Obama's Policies?

[8537]

I guess that is what needs to be said when the president didn't have his eye on the ball for the first two years of his presidency. His policies toward corporations, small businesses, energy and Obamacare was a downer for any type of serious recovery. just sayin....

Except they weren't, as evidenced by Corporate profits being at an *all time high.

Tell us again how Corporations are doing better than ever, in history, and at the same time Obama is some big drag on their success.....

These platitudes you just typed, which are without merit, are exactly why "fuck it" comes to mind when considering putting any time or effort into a discussion of any issues.

You contribute to the same ole' same ole' partisan rhetoric, then make a thread like this wondering why nobody wants to have a serious discussion.




And let me post-face (as opposed to preface, if you will) this by saying - - - Democrat partisans are also playing these corny little games, too.

Really? The first year and half was hammering down his healthcare bill, GT. Nothing serious was being dealt with regarding the economy.

An act known as the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act had a bit to do with the economy and it was passed well before the 1.5 year timeframe. Perhaps you've heard of it?

 

[G.T.]

I guess that is what needs to be said when the president didn't have his eye on the ball for the first two years of his presidency. His policies toward corporations, small businesses, energy and Obamacare was a downer for any type of serious recovery. just sayin....

Yet somehow we went from losing 800,00 jobs per month when he took office to creating jobs 6 months later.

We went from losing 9% annualized of our income to gaining in six months.

Just saying...

facts, numbers, data.

versus

platitude, perceptions.

 

[jillian]

I guess that is what needs to be said when the president didn't have his eye on the ball for the first two years of his presidency. His policies toward corporations, small businesses, energy and Obamacare was a downer for any type of serious recovery. just sayin....

Yet somehow we went from losing 800,00 jobs per month when he took office to creating jobs 6 months later.

We went from losing 9% annualized of our income to gaining in six months.

Just saying...

facts, numbers, data.

versus

platitude, perceptions.

really? how about the facts, numbers and data from the last time the GOP had the white house.

you see any changes in their policies?

 

[Meister]

I guess that is what needs to be said when the president didn't have his eye on the ball for the first two years of his presidency. His policies toward corporations, small businesses, energy and Obamacare was a downer for any type of serious recovery. just sayin....

Yet somehow we went from losing 800,00 jobs per month when he took office to creating jobs 6 months later.

We went from losing 9% annualized of our income to gaining in six months.

Just saying...

Just what did Obama do that accomplished that, what policies did he set in place to accomplish that? Or was it the normal recovery cycle after having come out of a recession? You do realize that recessions on quite common and do have a natural cycle, his has been the weakest

 

[G.T.]

It's an election year and it seems all the democrats want to discuss is contrived "Dog and Pony Shows". This is a serious election, and Obama's policies are off the table.
I would like to see the left defend what Obama's accomplishments have been, both the good and the bad.

Obama is out on the road right now discussing his economic and education policies.

Okay, I'll bite, just what is his economic policies? Or, is it more of a vision and not any serious details?

^ this right here should cause concern for anyone with a brain.

You're on a message board, hammering a candidate who's policies are easily found online -

Asking a message board what they are, and continuing the partisan canaard that both sides continue which is create a false discussion and perpetuate it in light of facts and data.

for fuck's sake, read and learn:

Jobs and the Economy — President Obama’s Record — Barack Obama

 

[tjvh]

The economy was shedding 800,00 jobs per month when he took office. It has created 4.5M private sector jobs in the past 3 years.

The economy was an annualized 9% of its income when Obama took office. It has since been growing for 12 straight quarters.

The President stuck to his promise and timeline in Iraq and to his promise (with a delay due to the situation on the ground) in Afghanistan.

The President ordered the death of OBL. On the other hand, GITMO is still open.

The President rescinded DADT.

The President quit defending DOMA and took steps towards recognizing all marriages.

The President passed the most significant health care reform package since LBJ and significant, if watered-down, financial reform.

Three years after the end of a recession:
GDP Growth...................Unemployment rate..............Consumer spending
1948-1949 25.4%.......... 2.8%...................................13.5%
1953-1954 12.4%...........4.3%.............................. ....13.9%
1960-1961 18.4%...........5.4%.............................. ....15.3%
1969-1970 16.4%...........4.9%.............................. ....15.2%
1973-1975 14.1%...........6.1%.............................. ....15.1%
1981-1982 18.5%...........7.0%.............................. ....16.5%
1990-1991 9.8%.............6.4%............................. .....10.7%
2000..........9.0%............5.4%................ ...................8.9%
2007-2009..6.4%............8.3%........................ ...........6.5%

you're right... they didn't keep a budget from being passed in order to try to kill planned parenthood.

and they didn't refuse to pass a pro forma debt ceiling resolution which forced us to lose our AAA rating... nah.. never happened.

and the tea people weren't elected to congress for the sole purpose of being obstructionist or anything.

again... bush's policies cost us approximately 750,00 jobs a month. there is nothing in romney's policies or the GOP policies that wouldn't return us to that nightmare.

you guys cut our revenue...
then cut money to the states
which in turn cut firemen, teachers, police, etc...
which in turn raised the unemployment rate
which in turn reduced our revenue...

the fact that we're doing as well as we are in the face of the teaparty invasion and the political extremism of the right is a miracle.

How soon people forget that the Democrats held a majority the first half of Obama's one term. I guess those^ things weren't very important then.

 

[Meister]

Except they weren't, as evidenced by Corporate profits being at an *all time high.

Tell us again how Corporations are doing better than ever, in history, and at the same time Obama is some big drag on their success.....

These platitudes you just typed, which are without merit, are exactly why "fuck it" comes to mind when considering putting any time or effort into a discussion of any issues.

You contribute to the same ole' same ole' partisan rhetoric, then make a thread like this wondering why nobody wants to have a serious discussion.




And let me post-face (as opposed to preface, if you will) this by saying - - - Democrat partisans are also playing these corny little games, too.

Really? The first year and half was hammering down his healthcare bill, GT. Nothing serious was being dealt with regarding the economy.

An act known as the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act had a bit to do with the economy and it was passed well before the 1.5 year timeframe. Perhaps you've heard of it?

That's what you're hanging your hat on? Obama even said it didn't work very well, but it did pay off some unions

 

[007]

The economy was shedding 800,00 jobs per month when he took office. It has created 4.5M private sector jobs in the past 3 years.

The economy was an annualized 9% of its income when Obama took office. It has since been growing for 12 straight quarters.

The President stuck to his promise and timeline in Iraq and to his promise (with a delay due to the situation on the ground) in Afghanistan.

The President ordered the death of OBL. On the other hand, GITMO is still open.

The President rescinded DADT.

The President quit defending DOMA and took steps towards recognizing all marriages.

The President passed the most significant health care reform package since LBJ and significant, if watered-down, financial reform.

Oooooohh... WHOOPSIE... what's this now... oh noooo, this just blows your line of bull shit clear out of the water... real sorry about that leftist, but hey, nobody really likes you guys lying all the time... know what I mean... ?

ANOTHER TRILLION-DOLLAR DEFICIT

CBO: Feds flirting with double-dip recession - Washington Times

The little kenyan boy with the muslim name is nothing more than a shitty little radical raised by commies that hates America. He should be thrown out with the trash from the White House, and that will happen in November.

 

[G.T.]

Three years after the end of a recession:
GDP Growth...................Unemployment rate..............Consumer spending
1948-1949 25.4%.......... 2.8%...................................13.5%
1953-1954 12.4%...........4.3%.............................. ....13.9%
1960-1961 18.4%...........5.4%.............................. ....15.3%
1969-1970 16.4%...........4.9%.............................. ....15.2%
1973-1975 14.1%...........6.1%.............................. ....15.1%
1981-1982 18.5%...........7.0%.............................. ....16.5%
1990-1991 9.8%.............6.4%............................. .....10.7%
2000..........9.0%............5.4%................ ...................8.9%
2007-2009..6.4%............8.3%........................ ...........6.5%

you're right... they didn't keep a budget from being passed in order to try to kill planned parenthood.

and they didn't refuse to pass a pro forma debt ceiling resolution which forced us to lose our AAA rating... nah.. never happened.

and the tea people weren't elected to congress for the sole purpose of being obstructionist or anything.

again... bush's policies cost us approximately 750,00 jobs a month. there is nothing in romney's policies or the GOP policies that wouldn't return us to that nightmare.

you guys cut our revenue...
then cut money to the states
which in turn cut firemen, teachers, police, etc...
which in turn raised the unemployment rate
which in turn reduced our revenue...

the fact that we're doing as well as we are in the face of the teaparty invasion and the political extremism of the right is a miracle.

How soon people forget that the Democrats held a majority the first half of Obama's one term. I guess those^ things weren't very important then.

You mean a not fillubuster proof majority, during a period in which fillubuster was used a record number of time?

Forget all that, and forget that Joe Lieberman was being "counted" as one of those Democrats in office even though he endorsed McCain and became cuddle-buddies during the whole campaign with Sean Hannity's radio show, bashing Obama and Democrats in general the entire time.

Reality.

 

[G.T.]

Really? The first year and half was hammering down his healthcare bill, GT. Nothing serious was being dealt with regarding the economy.

An act known as the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act had a bit to do with the economy and it was passed well before the 1.5 year timeframe. Perhaps you've heard of it?

That's what you're hanging your hat on? Obama even said it didn't work very well, but it did pay off some unions

It was 36% tax cuts, and according to Paul Ryan, it did work to create jobs and according to the CBO, it would have been much worse if it hadn't been passed.

 

[G.T.]

The economy was shedding 800,00 jobs per month when he took office. It has created 4.5M private sector jobs in the past 3 years.

The economy was an annualized 9% of its income when Obama took office. It has since been growing for 12 straight quarters.

The President stuck to his promise and timeline in Iraq and to his promise (with a delay due to the situation on the ground) in Afghanistan.

The President ordered the death of OBL. On the other hand, GITMO is still open.

The President rescinded DADT.

The President quit defending DOMA and took steps towards recognizing all marriages.

The President passed the most significant health care reform package since LBJ and significant, if watered-down, financial reform.

Oooooohh... WHOOPSIE... what's this now... oh noooo, this just blows your line of bull shit clear out of the water... real sorry about that leftist, but hey, nobody really likes you guys lying all the time... know what I mean... ?

ANOTHER TRILLION-DOLLAR DEFICIT

CBO: Feds flirting with double-dip recession - Washington Times

The little kenyan boy with the muslim name is nothing more than a shitty little radical raised by commies that hates America. He should be thrown out with the trash from the White House, and that will happen in November.

And here, this answers your OP, Meister. It says it all. It really does.

 

[tjvh]

you're right... they didn't keep a budget from being passed in order to try to kill planned parenthood.

and they didn't refuse to pass a pro forma debt ceiling resolution which forced us to lose our AAA rating... nah.. never happened.

and the tea people weren't elected to congress for the sole purpose of being obstructionist or anything.

again... bush's policies cost us approximately 750,00 jobs a month. there is nothing in romney's policies or the GOP policies that wouldn't return us to that nightmare.

you guys cut our revenue...
then cut money to the states
which in turn cut firemen, teachers, police, etc...
which in turn raised the unemployment rate
which in turn reduced our revenue...

the fact that we're doing as well as we are in the face of the teaparty invasion and the political extremism of the right is a miracle.

How soon people forget that the Democrats held a majority the first half of Obama's one term. I guess those^ things weren't very important then.

You mean a not fillubuster proof majority, during a period in which fillubuster was used a record number of time?

Forget all that, and forget that Joe Lieberman was being "counted" as one of those Democrats in office even though he endorsed McCain and became cuddle-buddies during the whole campaign with Sean Hannity's radio show, bashing Obama and Democrats in general the entire time.

Reality.

Yeah, well blame yourselves for Joe Lieberman... Next time you throw one of your peers under the Bus, you better make sure they can't crawl back out.

 

[candycorn]

It's an election year and it seems all the democrats want to discuss is contrived "Dog and Pony Shows". This is a serious election, and Obama's policies are off the table.
I would like to see the left defend what Obama's accomplishments have been, both the good and the bad.

Passed ACA extending insurable age until 26 y/o. Made it illegal for insurance companies to reject you on PECs. Closing the Medicare Loophole. Saved GM. Killed OBL. Got us out of Iraq. Getting us out of Afghanistan although not quickly enough. Appled American muscle where it was needed; hesitated where it was not. Appointed two level-headed justices to the high court. Will appoint more.

All good reasons to re-elect him.

Bad reasons?

Too big to fail institutions are still too big to fail. Wall Street reform was laughed at by Wall Street and is a muddled mess. Never came up with a 10 word answer about the ACA. The new normal unemployment rate happened on his watch; hesitated to use it.

He has a naievity that is almost the stuff of mal-practice at times...he actually thought he could work with the GOP. Sucker.

These are reasons not to re-elect him but the good drastically outweighs the bad.

 

[Meister]

Obama is out on the road right now discussing his economic and education policies.

Okay, I'll bite, just what is his economic policies? Or, is it more of a vision and not any serious details?

^ this right here should cause concern for anyone with a brain.

You're on a message board, hammering a candidate who's policies are easily found online -

Asking a message board what they are, and continuing the partisan canaard that both sides continue which is create a false discussion and perpetuate it in light of facts and data.

for fuck's sake, read and learn:

Jobs and the Economy — President Obama’s Record — Barack Obama

Good grief! That is a joke and you know it. Auto sales are down, GM still owes us billions of dollars and the government is a shareholder. Talk about a friggin false discussion, GT, I thought you were smarter than this, I'm disappointed.
Small businesses had to jump through hoops to get any benefits.
Obama cherry picked companies to receive government grants. YES, platitudes huh?
Typical

 

[Plasmaball]

It's an election year and it seems all the democrats want to discuss is contrived "Dog and Pony Shows". This is a serious election, and Obama's policies are off the table.
I would like to see the left defend what Obama's accomplishments have been, both the good and the bad.

wait i was told he didnt have a record to run on therefore he had to create these " dog and pony shows" YET his policies are destroying this nation. Yet he hasnt been able to do anything hence why he cant run on anything.

Therefore Obama is a weak tyrant who only thinks about himself, yet cant get anything actually done while he destroys this nation.

When you guys get your story straight then sure, have a conversation.

 

[G.T.]

Okay, I'll bite, just what is his economic policies? Or, is it more of a vision and not any serious details?

^ this right here should cause concern for anyone with a brain.

You're on a message board, hammering a candidate who's policies are easily found online -

Asking a message board what they are, and continuing the partisan canaard that both sides continue which is create a false discussion and perpetuate it in light of facts and data.

for fuck's sake, read and learn:

Jobs and the Economy — President Obama’s Record — Barack Obama

Good grief! That is a joke and you know it. Auto sales are down, GM still owes us billions of dollars and the government is a shareholder. Talk about a friggin false discussion, GT, I thought you were smarter than this, I'm disappointed.
Small businesses had to jump through hoops to get any benefits.
Obama cherry picked companies to receive government grants. YES, platitudes huh?
Typical

^ all platitudes, no facts or data.

"had to jump through hoops to get any benefits"

Stoppit. just stoppit.

Government grants are always cherry picked. Learn how grants work, and then come off the (not to be redundant) platitude.

No facts, no data, no answers for the facts and data that were presented for you - no REAL discussion of policy coming out of you..........

you answered your own thread. Congratulations, and have a nice day.

 

[Meister]

An act known as the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act had a bit to do with the economy and it was passed well before the 1.5 year timeframe. Perhaps you've heard of it?

That's what you're hanging your hat on? Obama even said it didn't work very well, but it did pay off some unions

It was 36% tax cuts, and according to Paul Ryan, it did work to create jobs and according to the CBO, it would have been much worse if it hadn't been passed.

It created temporary jobs for the most part, GT. When the money ran out the jobs ended. If he had not made those jobs "Union Wage and Benefit" A lot more would have come from the stimulus....but that wasn't what he wanted, GT.

 

[Full-Auto]

It's an election year and it seems all the democrats want to discuss is contrived "Dog and Pony Shows". This is a serious election, and Obama's policies are off the table.
I would like to see the left defend what Obama's accomplishments have been, both the good and the bad.

He doesn't offend us. There are things I might not agree with, but most of them consist of standing up to the bullies on the right and not trying to compromise for the first two years of his term.

Nothing he could do or has done is worse than what the right has done and will do again.

And the din on the right has been so loud since inauguration day that it's almost impossible to have a discussion on the merits.

Point out where repubs have committed over 2000 felonies. That is just the FBI side.

There are plenty of other felonies to pass around.

Then you have the unmitigated Gaul to talk trash.....And people wonder why I dislike democrats so much...Not a single honest one in the bunch....

 

[Meister]

It's an election year and it seems all the democrats want to discuss is contrived "Dog and Pony Shows". This is a serious election, and Obama's policies are off the table.
I would like to see the left defend what Obama's accomplishments have been, both the good and the bad.

Passed ACA extending insurable age until 26 y/o. Made it illegal for insurance companies to reject you on PECs. Closing the Medicare Loophole. Saved GM. Killed OBL. Got us out of Iraq. Getting us out of Afghanistan although not quickly enough. Appled American muscle where it was needed; hesitated where it was not. Appointed two level-headed justices to the high court. Will appoint more.

All good reasons to re-elect him.

Bad reasons?

Too big to fail institutions are still too big to fail. Wall Street reform was laughed at by Wall Street and is a muddled mess. Never came up with a 10 word answer about the ACA. The new normal unemployment rate happened on his watch; hesitated to use it.

He has a naievity that is almost the stuff of mal-practice at times...he actually thought he could work with the GOP. Sucker.

These are reasons not to re-elect him but the good drastically outweighs the bad.

Whoa! GM would have survived through bankruptcy protection, and would have come out of it leaner and meaner than before. Their revenues are down 41% from a year ago. You just bought into the talking points of the left.
The ACA is a bill that the overwhelming number of Americans wanted no part of for various reasons.
Killed OBL...yes that is good
We got out of Iraq under Bush's timeline...nothing more and nothing less.
Gitmo os still open.
Yes, two liberal judges are level headed

 

[Meister]

^ this right here should cause concern for anyone with a brain.

You're on a message board, hammering a candidate who's policies are easily found online -

Asking a message board what they are, and continuing the partisan canaard that both sides continue which is create a false discussion and perpetuate it in light of facts and data.

for fuck's sake, read and learn:

Jobs and the Economy — President Obama’s Record — Barack Obama

Good grief! That is a joke and you know it. Auto sales are down, GM still owes us billions of dollars and the government is a shareholder. Talk about a friggin false discussion, GT, I thought you were smarter than this, I'm disappointed.
Small businesses had to jump through hoops to get any benefits.
Obama cherry picked companies to receive government grants. YES, platitudes huh?
Typical

^ all platitudes, no facts or data.

"had to jump through hoops to get any benefits"

Stoppit. just stoppit.

Government grants are always cherry picked. Learn how grants work, and then come off the (not to be redundant) platitude.

No facts, no data, no answers for the facts and data that were presented for you - no REAL discussion of policy coming out of you..........

you answered your own thread. Congratulations, and have a nice day.

No REAL discussion of Obama's policies are coming from him either. That's been my point all along.
By the way, might want to do a little research for yourself about the small businesses jumping through hoops.....that's why very few took the offer. But, you wouldn't believe me so look for yourself.