Why do we need the Rich?

[Soggy in NOLA]

It sounds like the OP has been cut out of his families will and he's bitter about it.

The angriest poster here I can think of.
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Oh yeah... yesterday it degenerated into him wanting to shit on my mother. Seriously... something is horribly wrong with that one.

 

[Mac1958]

It sounds like the OP has been cut out of his families will and he's bitter about it.

The angriest poster here I can think of.
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Oh yeah... yesterday it degenerated into him wanting to shit on my mother. Seriously... something is horribly wrong with that one.

I've noticed that not a lot of the regular lefties here come to his defense.

Good for them. They can see what he is and want no part of it.
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[imawhosure]

We need our successful and innovators to be a successful society.

The American dream is all about getting ahead and living the good life. Sure, I want them to pay their taxes and pay their workers better, but to say why do we need the rich is kind of like saying why do we need successful people?

Looking at Haiti or Zimbabwe we can see two systems that have very few successful people and a lot of people that just don't care. I don't want that for America. Think good and hard Op.

The fight needs to be about regulations and a hybrid system of capitalism.

Mathew,

There has been many surveys and I know some very successful self made $100m+ guys... And money is not what drives them in the morning.. A lot of them have developed a very interesting working environment for them to thrive... I noticed myself when I started to grow my own company, as soon as you get into a comfort lifestyle you are driven more by the challenge rather than greed.
Some complain about tax, some don't... I know a lifelong Republican who loved Clinton because he created an environment to do more business...

So can rich pay more? Off course they can and probably should... Empirical data used with the Laffer Curve strongly indicates that 70% taxation doesn't affect major earners. There is a large distance between 20% and 70%... I would think 55% would be far fairer...

How is it fair for some to pay federal tax and not others?

If you truly want to be fair then tax everyone at the same rate, say 20 percent. That way everyone has skin in the game.

Then how could some in the government create class envy? If everybody's taxes went up, they would have a mass revolt on their hands. Tax and spenders could never allow that, now could they!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It sounds like the OP has been cut out of his families will and he's bitter about it.

The angriest poster here I can think of.
.

Oh yeah... yesterday it degenerated into him wanting to shit on my mother. Seriously... something is horribly wrong with that one.

I handled it well.... I told him good luck with that as she passed 11 years ago. It didn't make me angry, just kinda made me feel sorry for someone that would even go there.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It sounds like the OP has been cut out of his families will and he's bitter about it.

The angriest poster here I can think of.
.

Oh yeah... yesterday it degenerated into him wanting to shit on my mother. Seriously... something is horribly wrong with that one.

I've noticed that not a lot of the regular lefties here come to his defense.

Good for them. They can see what he is and want no part of it.
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Well, then there is hope.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why is it the only argument right-wingers come up with is we need the rich to invest in things?

So we need the rich for their...money?

Do they provide NOTHING else to all of civilization except they "provide the capital"?

Why not just take their money then...and redistribute it accordingly?

How is it by letting the Rich have it all (and living exorbitant life styles) better than social welfare states such as Germany? Where they limit the rich, tax the hell out of them, and give them money to everyone else?

It's not your money...next question?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

We need our successful and innovators to be a successful society.

The American dream is all about getting ahead and living the good life. Sure, I want them to pay their taxes and pay their workers better, but to say why do we need the rich is kind of like saying why do we need successful people?

Looking at Haiti or Zimbabwe we can see two systems that have very few successful people and a lot of people that just don't care. I don't want that for America. Think good and hard Op.

The fight needs to be about regulations and a hybrid system of capitalism.

Mathew,

There has been many surveys and I know some very successful self made $100m+ guys... And money is not what drives them in the morning.. A lot of them have developed a very interesting working environment for them to thrive... I noticed myself when I started to grow my own company, as soon as you get into a comfort lifestyle you are driven more by the challenge rather than greed.
Some complain about tax, some don't... I know a lifelong Republican who loved Clinton because he created an environment to do more business...

So can rich pay more? Off course they can and probably should... Empirical data used with the Laffer Curve strongly indicates that 70% taxation doesn't affect major earners. There is a large distance between 20% and 70%... I would think 55% would be far fairer...

How is it fair for some to pay federal tax and not others?

If you truly want to be fair then tax everyone at the same rate, say 20 percent. That way everyone has skin in the game.

Then how could some in the government create class envy? If everybody's taxes went up, they would have a mass revolt on their hands. Tax and spenders could never allow that, now could they!

That's why we need to vote someone into office that will set up a flat tax or fair tax system then we can reign in the ever growing government.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

What happens if socialist anarchists decide we "don't need the rich"? Will it mean war?

No, it means the rich will leave and take their money with them, and then there will remain only social anarchists with no money.

 

[The Rabbi]

My business depends on those classified as wealthy, if they are gone who will our customers then be?

The government can pretend to lead and mobilize production but as most well versed individuals will attest the government is incapable of taking care the social programs it currently controls, talk to a vet!

Name one country that equals the technological, manufacturing, and medical advances developed by the United States?

He actually claims that jobs are created when he demand a steak dinner and a cook shows up and cook s for him. He's a complete kook.

You misspelled "ignoramus."

ha ha ha... he also claimed to illicit a response from me.

Did you try to sell him drugs or something?
What a maroon that guy is.

 

[charwin95]

Why is it the only argument right-wingers come up with is we need the rich to invest in things?

So we need the rich for their...money?

Do they provide NOTHING else to all of civilization except they "provide the capital"?

Why not just take their money then...and redistribute it accordingly?

How is it by letting the Rich have it all (and living exorbitant life styles) better than social welfare states such as Germany? Where they limit the rich, tax the hell out of them, and give them money to everyone else?

It's my money my business..... What is your problem?

 

[easyt65]

Never seen a broke-ass person create jobs.
Funny how libs complain about the 'rich' when all their reps are millionaires, many who don't pay their taxes, and who love spending other people's money.

 

[Indeependent]

Why is it the only argument right-wingers come up with is we need the rich to invest in things?

So we need the rich for their...money?

Do they provide NOTHING else to all of civilization except they "provide the capital"?

Why not just take their money then...and redistribute it accordingly?

How is it by letting the Rich have it all (and living exorbitant life styles) better than social welfare states such as Germany? Where they limit the rich, tax the hell out of them, and give them money to everyone else?

Why don't you ask Bill Gates' employees?

Maybe he doesn't want to go to India.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Where is that little ******* maggot commie sweat off the balls of a baboon?...Creates a thread and runs like the little twerp every kid in the neighborhood wants to beat the shit out of....

 

[Papageorgio]

I can believe this is a serious thread. This is absolutely the dumbest thread I have ran into in a long, long time.