Why do liberals hate freedom?

[koshergrl]

The banners want to be able to use the justification "if abuse happened once (and wasn't proven) then it happens all the time!" when it comes to this topic...

But heaven forbid anyone point out that sometimes homosexuals abuse children. That's HATE!

 

[Two Thumbs]

Reparative therapy causes harm. Telling a child how horrible they are for the feelings they can't help, causes harm. Forcing children into this type of therapy causes harm and it isn't always physical. That is why CA is trying to prohibit parents from FORCING their children into this therapy. They aren't trying to take it away from consenting adults, just not allowing this horrible practice on CHILDREN.

As for the young man in the article, he is now an adult. This happened to him when he was 12. You can't press charges when you're 12.

while as a kid, he wouldn't know what to do

he was sent to the hospital many times, hospitals are required to report anything they think is abuse. and that many visits will get the cops on your ass.

now he's an adult and he still hasn't reported anything.

so

he's full of shit, and got his 15 minutes of fame. And you bought it b/c you wanted to.



Look, I know this is very personal for you, and I can't have the same reference. However, you can't tell me what I can and can't do with my child as long as they are not injured.

There has to be a line or it will just keep going until the state decides everything.

Statute of Limitations, hello? Moron.

google is your freind

Child Abuse and the Law - The Statute Of Limitations - Court, California, Time, and Stogner

 

[koshergrl]

It's not pooper's friend. She won't look, she admittedly doesn't follow links, research the topics she opines on, or care about accuracy.

 

[Emma]

google is your freind

Child Abuse and the Law - The Statute Of Limitations - Court, California, Time, and Stogner

SCOTUS ruled his prosecution unconstitutional. From your link:

Upon the defendant's second appeal, the California Court of Appeals, in Stogner v. Superior Court (93 Cal. App. 4th 1229, 114 Cal. Rptr. 2d 37, [2001]), held that the 1994 law allows the prosecution of Stogner's alleged crimes committed between 1955 and 1973. On June 26, 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Stogner v. California (01-1757). By a 5–4 vote, the high court reversed the appeals court decision, concluding that "a law enacted after expiration of a previously applicable limitations period violates the Ex Post Facto Clause when it is applied to revive a previously time-barred prosecution."

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The abuse referenced above occurred in Kansas. The statute of limitations there is 5 years, with this exception:

KSA 21-3106: Time limitations for commencement of prosecutions.

(f) whether or not the fact of the crime is concealed by the active act or conduct of the accused, there is substantially competent evidence to believe two or more of the following factors are present: (i) The victim was a child under 15 years of age at the time of the crime; (ii) the victim was of such age or intelligence that the victim was unable to determine that the acts constituted a crime; (iii) the victim was prevented by a parent or other legal authority from making known to law enforcement authorities the fact of the crime whether or not the parent or other legal authority is the accused; and (iv) there is substantially competent expert testimony indicating the victim psychologically repressed such witness' memory of the fact of the crime, and in the expert's professional opinion the recall of such memory is accurate and free of undue manipulation, and substantial corroborating evidence can be produced in support of the allegations contained in the complaint or information but in no event may a prosecution be commenced as provided in this section later than the date the victim turns 28 years of age. Corroborating evidence may include, but is not limited to, evidence the defendant committed similar acts against other persons or evidence of contemporaneous physical manifestations of the crime. "Parent or other legal authority" shall include but not be limited to natural and stepparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles or siblings.

 

[Two Thumbs]

google is your freind

Child Abuse and the Law - The Statute Of Limitations - Court, California, Time, and Stogner

SCOTUS ruled his prosecution unconstitutional. From your link:

Upon the defendant's second appeal, the California Court of Appeals, in Stogner v. Superior Court (93 Cal. App. 4th 1229, 114 Cal. Rptr. 2d 37, [2001]), held that the 1994 law allows the prosecution of Stogner's alleged crimes committed between 1955 and 1973. On June 26, 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Stogner v. California (01-1757). By a 5–4 vote, the high court reversed the appeals court decision, concluding that "a law enacted after expiration of a previously applicable limitations period violates the Ex Post Facto Clause when it is applied to revive a previously time-barred prosecution."

​

The abuse referenced above occurred in Kansas. The statute of limitations there is 5 years, with this exception:

KSA 21-3106: Time limitations for commencement of prosecutions.

(f) whether or not the fact of the crime is concealed by the active act or conduct of the accused, there is substantially competent evidence to believe two or more of the following factors are present: (i) The victim was a child under 15 years of age at the time of the crime; (ii) the victim was of such age or intelligence that the victim was unable to determine that the acts constituted a crime; (iii) the victim was prevented by a parent or other legal authority from making known to law enforcement authorities the fact of the crime whether or not the parent or other legal authority is the accused; and (iv) there is substantially competent expert testimony indicating the victim psychologically repressed such witness' memory of the fact of the crime, and in the expert's professional opinion the recall of such memory is accurate and free of undue manipulation, and substantial corroborating evidence can be produced in support of the allegations contained in the complaint or information but in no event may a prosecution be commenced as provided in this section later than the date the victim turns 28 years of age. Corroborating evidence may include, but is not limited to, evidence the defendant committed similar acts against other persons or evidence of contemporaneous physical manifestations of the crime. "Parent or other legal authority" shall include but not be limited to natural and stepparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles or siblings.

30 years



Thats longer than the sentence would have been