This is beneath you, Barb.
Let's keep this honest.
If there is the tiniest indication of what you suggest, it is way,way, more than out weighed by quotas, preferences and anti-white male bias.
As for a 'tint' of racism, as in your final phrase, surely you realize the intent of the use of the phrase 'people of color.' It means "everyone against you, ******."
I never USED the phrase, "people of color," or "tint of racism." Perhaps you should go back through the thread.
And those who have gotten to where they are, in positions of power and influence, BECAUSE of affirmative action to then advocate the pulling up of the ladder (the end to the very programs that helped them get where they sit) does and has occurred with the voices of the very people Lone cited. That some programs have survived is no thanks to those who advocated against them. Pointing out facts will never be "beneath me." Unpopular perhaps, and oh well.
I used the phrases people of color and tint of racism, as cultural equivalents of your use of "Possibly padlocking the door to the bathroom at a beer bash..."
Thought you would see that.
Now, as for affirmative action...are you prepared to respond to the question of how long you would apply these racist programs?
1. Have you researched the effects?
a. Thomas Sowell studied the results of such policies around the world, and found the following: 1) ‘temporary’ programs expand and persist, 2) there is no way to assure that benefits go to the less fortunate members of designated groups, 3) polarizations increase vis-a-vis non-favored groups, and 4) increase of fraudulent claims of belonging designated groups. Thomas Sowell, “Preferential Politics: An International Perspective,” p. 15-16
b. Affirmative action was quickly expanded to women, Hispanics, Asians, Aleuts, Pacific Islanders, American Indians. How does one accommodate perks for those who are recent immigrants, who have suffered no such discrimination?
c. Applying affirmative action to medical education means that the liberal ideology is more important than the risk of producing incompetent physicians. Braverman and Anziska, “Challenges to Science and Authority in Contemporary Medical Education,” Academic Questions, Summer 1994, p. 14
SpringerLink - Journal Article
Is there no ‘safety exception’ for affirmative action?
d. The ‘mortgage meltdown’ has the fingerprints of this kind of thinking all over it. “The FHA’s urban-loan debacle of the 1960s and early seventies, its most ruinous lending mistake yet: politicians in both parties argued that extending the American dream of homeownership to poor and to immigrants would stabilize urban communities and prevent further violence. So in 1968, the federal government passed a law giving poor families FHA-insured loans that required down payments of as little as $250. Not urban uplift but urban nightmare followed. In the end, the government absorbed an estimated $1.4 billion in loss nationwide.”
Obsessive Housing Disorder by Steven Malanga, City Journal Spring 2009
2. The irony of claims of discrimination is that there is evidence that such occurs far more frequently in industries and businesses that are well regulated rather than those in which competition and rivalry predominates; the employer who hires the best people has the competitive advantage. As Thomas Sowell states, “Prejudice is free but discrimination has costs.” Sowell, “Preferential Politics: An International Perspective,” p. 22.
a. Discrimination against Jews was practiced far more often in regulated industries than in competitive ones, discrimination being costless where the firm was shielded from competition by regulators. See Becker, “The Economics of Discrimination.”
3. How can you accomodated racialism of affirmative action with the 1964 Civil Rights Act which outlawed private discrimination in employment and public accommodations?