Why Could White Immigrants Come Here With Nothing and Make it and Blacks Can't?

[surada]

Not really. Oprah is the most successful black person in this country and she has never been called a Tom. Neither has Magic. And there are a bunch of others. The Toms are the ones who run around sounding like white supremacists and there are some toms living in the projects.

Okay. What makes Oprah and Magic different? Neither embrace gangsta culture, do they?

 

[theHawk]

Said by a white man. Turn black, try to live 5 years.

Then come talk.

We know. Life is so terrible for blacks in America. You get so much White Privilege, but it isn’t enough. You love the White man’s way of life over the African way.

 

[theHawk]

The subject here is how whites stole land from blacks after slavery. This is posted in the history section. That means we are discussing history, therefore the excuses about how someone is talking about the past have no place in this discussion. Nor does the stale references to crime and the white opinion on how people can make it if they are willing to work hard.

All off topic posts from this point on will be reported.

But wasn’t all that land stolen from the Indians?

I guess it is more righteous for blacks to own this “stolen land” than whites?

 

[theHawk]

Whites like you are the problem.

Of course, because I don’t buy into communist ideas.

 

[IM2]

Okay. What makes Oprah and Magic different? Neither embrace gangsta culture, do they?

This thread is about how whites stole land from blacks after slavery and the methods continued to be used today. It is not about a bunch of white opinions on how blacks can make it or the idiotic white belief that blacks are called sellouts because they are successful.

The Heirs Property Act is still in force today, as black owners lose every source of wealth they've created for generations. How about we discuss the heirs property act instead of using diversions whites use to avoid facing what they have done and continue to do. The Heirs Property Act is part of white gangsta culture. So how avout we discuss that?

 

[IM2]

What is heirs’ property? A huge contributor to Black land loss you might not have heard of.​

Untold numbers of Black Americans became landowners following the Civil War when the government handed over some 20 million acres, mostly in the South, under the Homestead Act. Three years later, Union General William Sherman promised formerly enslaved people “40 acres and a mule.” (President Andrew Johnson rescinded that, though.) By 1920, Black families owned 14 percent of all farmland in the U.S., a figure that’s fallen to less than 2 percent today.

Heirs’ property played no small part in this loss. The first generation of Black landowners who died in the early 20th century often left their property to children and spouses through informal transfers. Those parcels continued changing hands, often with the original landowner’s name still listed on the deed, which made proving ownership increasingly difficult as the years went on.

Much of the land loss has occurred since 1961, when the Kennedy Administration established a USDA loan program to assist farmers. The program was administered by locally elected authorities who often denied loans to disenfranchised Black farmers, particularly if they could not prove ownership. (They also granted far more generous terms to white farmers.) Even now, folks who can’t prove ownership are denied farming loans, foreclosure protection, and disaster relief. Predatory developers can use legislative loopholes like the Torrens Act to buy one heir’s interest and force land sales in court.

What is heirs’ property? A huge contributor to Black land loss you might not have heard of.

Advocates are working to right a major injustice that has implications for both landowners and the climate.

grist.org

 

[IM2]

But wasn’t all that land stolen from the Indians?

I guess it is more righteous for blacks to own this “stolen land” than whites?

By the same government ran by whites that made slavery legal and gave land to whites for free.

 

[IM2]

Thats not possible

But if it were I would be ok

If you could, you wouldn't talk so stupid.

So how about discussing the topic?

WHITES STEALING LAND FROM BLACKS FROM SLAVERY UNITL NOW.

 

[IM2]

You must not know many black immigrants, because in my experience they are considerably harder working than the native born blacks and they also don't buy into your victimhood narrative. Of course, that's because it hasn't been fed to them by the government education system and the media their entire lives.

Your experience?

I know many black immigrants and they face the same racism as every other black. Abner Louima was a black immigrant. An African immigrant got his skull broken in 27 places and was murdered by Thomas Metzger. Patrick Lyoya was a black immigrant murdered by a cop. There have been a number of other instances as well. So why don't you follow the rules you enforce on others and discuss the thread topic?

The government and media don't feed us anything and your "experience" with black immigrants must not be much. You're not white, these people tell you that every time you discipline them so quit pandering to racists.

This thread is about ways land was stolen from blacks and not your half baked opinion of how hard American blacks work as opposed to immigrant black who run away from Africa to escape the white man devastation of that continent during colonialism. The Africans that come here ain't poor son and they qualify for H1B Visas. So discuss the topic or leave.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

blaming whites because blacks were too damn stupid to follow a simple law on deeds is hilarious.

 

[IM2]

The issues that create and are caused by heirs’ property are inextricably tied to race. Accordingly, heirs’ property disproportionately impacts lower- wealth African Americans, particularly in the Black Belt South, which includes many northern Florida counties.

https://www.flhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Landmark-Act-in-Fla-aims-to-keep-land-and-wealth-in-Black-Families-v36-n2-2020.pdf#:~:text=The%20issues%20that%20create%20and%20are%20caused%20by,Belt%20South%2C%20which%20includes%20many%20northern%20Florida%20counties.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This happened after slavery.

... because it was uphill after slavery ended in 1865. Never a level playing field. Only a mountain sand of steep slopes, nettle thickets, uneven shale shelfs underone's feet, and white mean with clubs.

 

[AZrailwhale]

blaming whites because blacks were too damn stupid to follow a simple law on deeds is hilarious.

Yeah, it's odd, whites used the same system but they adapted when the laws changed.

 

[IM2]

blaming whites because blacks were too damn stupid to follow a simple law on deeds is hilarious.

That's not what happened.

 

[IM2]

The subject here is how whites stole land from blacks after slavery. This is posted in the history section. That means we are discussing history, therefore the excuses about how someone is talking about the past have no place in this discussion. Nor does the stale references to crime and the white opinion on how people can make it if they are willing to work hard.

All off topic posts from this point on will be reported.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

About 95% of the replies in this thread so far are OFF TOPIC. I suggest all of you read the opening post and realize the topic is about land that was stolen/taken from blacks. Thread bans and warnings will be issued for those continuing to post off topic.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

About 95% of the replies in this thread so far are OFF TOPIC. I suggest all of you read the opening post and realize the topic is about land that was stolen/taken from blacks. Thread bans and warnings will be issued for those continuing to post off topic.

LOL kow towing to the local racist even out of the racism area I see. He declared that a certain law was to blame so discussing that law IS in fact part of this discussion. He claims percentages are not right and should not be used in every other thread on any subject so that too is fair game,

The law in question is clear on what is required and isn't it telling that few NON blacks have not made the change to obey that law while he claims blacks can't wont or did not and had their land stolen.

and as his usual refrain it is all whiteys fault that black people arent smart enough to follow a law that is in effect for EVERYONE.

 

[IM2]

LOL kow towing to the local racist even out of the racism area I see. He declared that a certain law was to blame so discussing that law IS in fact part of this discussion. He claims percentages are not right and should not be used in every other thread on any subject so that too is fair game,

The law in question is clear on what is required and isn't it telling that few NON blacks have not made the change to obey that law while he claims blacks can't wont or did not and had their land stolen.

and as his usual refrain it is all whiteys fault that black people arent smart enough to follow a law that is in effect for EVERYONE.

Actually, if you watched the video you learn that whites used acts of violence and terrorism to take the land or scare blacks off the land. You also learn that whites manipulated the law as well as due to circumstances created by white racism caused black to get cheated out of land. You have chosen to ignore all those things to cling ti an argument that is disingenuous because quite frankly, you can't face the truth.

 

[IM2]

and as his usual refrain it is all whiteys fault that black people arent smart enough to follow a law that is in effect for EVERYONE.

Because it is whiteys fault and I'm not the person saying it. Courts have said it.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

LOL kow towing to the local racist even out of the racism area I see. He declared that a certain law was to blame so discussing that law IS in fact part of this discussion. He claims percentages are not right and should not be used in every other thread on any subject so that too is fair game,

The law in question is clear on what is required and isn't it telling that few NON blacks have not made the change to obey that law while he claims blacks can't wont or did not and had their land stolen.

and as his usual refrain it is all whiteys fault that black people arent smart enough to follow a law that is in effect for EVERYONE.

You can argue what he claims with facts that give another perspective as long as it's on topic (land being taken/stolen).