Why Climate Change is everyones problem

[Patriot52]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

 

[Patriot52]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

Who are you who can't formulate a supportable argument?

You just babble without evidence.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

Bla, bla, bla…..Zzzzz.

Who trained you?

 

[Hossfly]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

I have a friend who is a scientist in NOAA. He told me Friday that Al Gore and company are making millions off their phony "climate change" scam.

 

[Hossfly]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

I have a friend who is a scientist in NOAA. He told me Friday that Al Gore and company are making millions off their phony "climate change" scam.

He is ignoring my long counterpoint POST 14

 

[SSDD]

The average citizen has no idea what is causing the climate to change, how fast it is changing or


how this is impacting them. Most people believe that CO2 emissions from power plants are the

primary contributor causing the atmosphere to act like the glass on a greenhouse. The reality is

that the CO2 emissions from cars are about equal to that of power plants in the U. S. This makes

every driver of an internal combustion engine vehicle a contributor to the problem. Car CO2

emissions do not just dissipate on the ground, they migrate up to the lower atmosphere where

they can persist for up to 1000 years.

The average citizen does not understand the difference between weather and climate either.

Weather happens real-time where climate is primarily a measure of land and ocean temperatures

over a long period of time. Some people believe that if the planet is really warming then it should

be warm everywhere. This is nonsense because the poles will always be cooler and it will always

be colder in winter. The Jet-Stream is moving more erratically now, bringing cold-fronts down to

Florida and sometimes extreme heat in North Dakota. Because the oceans are warmer now,

hurricanes are more frequent, extreme and earlier each year. More moisture is in the

atmosphere, so severe floods, hail storms and deep-snow are more common. Flooding events

are occurring somewhere in the U. S. almost every week. Maryland just had 1000-year floods for

2 years in a row. Texas just had record hailstorm damage, costing over $1B. High temperature

records are broken every year across the U. S. Wildfires are hotter and more common now.

These are not freak events of mother-nature. They are caused by long-term human activity. The

debate whether Climate Change/Global Warming is caused by humans is OVER. It is proven

science verified by experts worldwide.

Climatologists now have the analytical tools to attribute individual weather events to Climate

Change. For instance the severe flooding that was caused by hurricane Harvey in Houston has

been 100% attributed to Climate Change. The economic damage that Climate Change is causing

in the U. S. is rising every year. The estimated cost to the U. S. economy in 2017 is $300B, half

the budget for the U. S. military.

Even those that live in areas unaffected by hurricanes and tornadoes are being impacted. Besides the recurring wildfires here, the cost of food has been

increasing due to crop failures in Florida and lack of water in California. FEMA payouts for

weather disasters continue to increase each year, increasing our tax burden and/or adding to the

National Debt. Ocean warming is causing many wild fish and shellfish stocks to be endangered,

including the wild salmon fishery off the west coast. Many west-coast rivers don’t have runs

anymore. The incidents of insect-borne diseases including West Nile Virus, Zika, Dengue and

Spotted Fever have TRIPLED in the U. S. from 2004 to 2016. Air pollution is responsible for over

10 million deaths world-wide and 200,000 deaths in US each year, more than cigarettes, war or

famine.

Global Warming is now accelerating because we have reached a “tipping-point” caused by effects

that reinforce warming. Shrinkage of the ice-caps reduces the heat reflected back into space.

In addition to oil exploration, thawing permafrost releases Methane gas, a greenhouse gas 80 times more potent than CO2.

Forests, which along with the oceans are the ONLY absorbers of CO2, are shrinking at an

alarming rate due to wildfires and deforestation for farming. Global Warming is one of the top

threats to mankind. It’s time for everyone to take this seriously at the ballot box and in your

personal choices.

The biggest problem with climate science is how badly they misinform people who lack either the interest, time, or intellectual wattage to check things out for themselves.

You are a prime example of someone who has been terribly...and I mean ttttteeeeerrrrrriiiiiiibbbbbblllllyyyyyy misinformed by climate science and are living under the pall of that misinformation.

I doubt that the average citizen is anywhere near as misinformed as you

 

[SSDD]

Yawn......Zzzzz…

So many errors spotted but you wouldn't know since you didn't make a factual case for any of it.

Please bring rational thinking to the forum next time.

You would have to look pretty hard to find someone more misinformed than the OP..

 

[skookerasbil]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

Your not getting it s0n.........everybody knows about the "consensus" science. The problem is, nobody is caring. Since the science is "decided" one would think there would be some action on climate change. Look at the Paris Treaty......dead as a doornail. Nobody gives a rats ass in congress for well over 10 years, in fact, nobody in congress even brings legislation to the floor on climate change because they know they will get their clocks cleaned. And the president is scuttling the Clean Power Plan as we speak. Why? Because he can. Voters know by now that the scientists are fucking with the data sets plus, they've watched prediction after prediction fall like a stone in water. So its on nobodys radar. For Christsakes, they've never even debated about climate change in the presidential debates.........ever. Nobody cares.

 

[Muhammed]

The average citizen has no idea what is causing the climate to change, how fast it is changing or


how this is impacting them. Most people believe that CO2 emissions from power plants are the

primary contributor causing the atmosphere to act like the glass on a greenhouse. The reality is

that the CO2 emissions from cars are about equal to that of power plants in the U. S. This makes

every driver of an internal combustion engine vehicle a contributor to the problem. Car CO2

emissions do not just dissipate on the ground, they migrate up to the lower atmosphere where

they can persist for up to 1000 years.

The average citizen does not understand the difference between weather and climate either.

Weather happens real-time where climate is primarily a measure of land and ocean temperatures

over a long period of time. Some people believe that if the planet is really warming then it should

be warm everywhere. This is nonsense because the poles will always be cooler and it will always

be colder in winter. The Jet-Stream is moving more erratically now, bringing cold-fronts down to

Florida and sometimes extreme heat in North Dakota. Because the oceans are warmer now,

hurricanes are more frequent, extreme and earlier each year. More moisture is in the

atmosphere, so severe floods, hail storms and deep-snow are more common. Flooding events

are occurring somewhere in the U. S. almost every week. Maryland just had 1000-year floods for

2 years in a row. Texas just had record hailstorm damage, costing over $1B. High temperature

records are broken every year across the U. S. Wildfires are hotter and more common now.

These are not freak events of mother-nature. They are caused by long-term human activity. The

debate whether Climate Change/Global Warming is caused by humans is OVER. It is proven

science verified by experts worldwide.

Climatologists now have the analytical tools to attribute individual weather events to Climate

Change. For instance the severe flooding that was caused by hurricane Harvey in Houston has

been 100% attributed to Climate Change. The economic damage that Climate Change is causing

in the U. S. is rising every year. The estimated cost to the U. S. economy in 2017 is $300B, half

the budget for the U. S. military.

Even those that live in areas unaffected by hurricanes and tornadoes are being impacted. Besides the recurring wildfires here, the cost of food has been

increasing due to crop failures in Florida and lack of water in California. FEMA payouts for

weather disasters continue to increase each year, increasing our tax burden and/or adding to the

National Debt. Ocean warming is causing many wild fish and shellfish stocks to be endangered,

including the wild salmon fishery off the west coast. Many west-coast rivers don’t have runs

anymore. The incidents of insect-borne diseases including West Nile Virus, Zika, Dengue and

Spotted Fever have TRIPLED in the U. S. from 2004 to 2016. Air pollution is responsible for over

10 million deaths world-wide and 200,000 deaths in US each year, more than cigarettes, war or

famine.

Global Warming is now accelerating because we have reached a “tipping-point” caused by effects

that reinforce warming. Shrinkage of the ice-caps reduces the heat reflected back into space.

In addition to oil exploration, thawing permafrost releases Methane gas, a greenhouse gas 80 times more potent than CO2.

Forests, which along with the oceans are the ONLY absorbers of CO2, are shrinking at an

alarming rate due to wildfires and deforestation for farming. Global Warming is one of the top

threats to mankind. It’s time for everyone to take this seriously at the ballot box and in your

personal choices.

Wow! You bought all of that ridiculous propaganda without question. No skepticism whatsoever.

 

[SSDD]

Wow! You bought all of that ridiculous propaganda without question. No skepticism whatsoever.

The opposite of skeptical is gullible.

 

[Old Rocks]

The average citizen has no idea what is causing the climate to change, how fast it is changing or


how this is impacting them. Most people believe that CO2 emissions from power plants are the

primary contributor causing the atmosphere to act like the glass on a greenhouse. The reality is

that the CO2 emissions from cars are about equal to that of power plants in the U. S. This makes

every driver of an internal combustion engine vehicle a contributor to the problem. Car CO2

emissions do not just dissipate on the ground, they migrate up to the lower atmosphere where

they can persist for up to 1000 years.

The average citizen does not understand the difference between weather and climate either.

Weather happens real-time where climate is primarily a measure of land and ocean temperatures

over a long period of time. Some people believe that if the planet is really warming then it should

be warm everywhere. This is nonsense because the poles will always be cooler and it will always

be colder in winter. The Jet-Stream is moving more erratically now, bringing cold-fronts down to

Florida and sometimes extreme heat in North Dakota. Because the oceans are warmer now,

hurricanes are more frequent, extreme and earlier each year. More moisture is in the

atmosphere, so severe floods, hail storms and deep-snow are more common. Flooding events

are occurring somewhere in the U. S. almost every week. Maryland just had 1000-year floods for

2 years in a row. Texas just had record hailstorm damage, costing over $1B. High temperature

records are broken every year across the U. S. Wildfires are hotter and more common now.

These are not freak events of mother-nature. They are caused by long-term human activity. The

debate whether Climate Change/Global Warming is caused by humans is OVER. It is proven

science verified by experts worldwide.

Climatologists now have the analytical tools to attribute individual weather events to Climate

Change. For instance the severe flooding that was caused by hurricane Harvey in Houston has

been 100% attributed to Climate Change. The economic damage that Climate Change is causing

in the U. S. is rising every year. The estimated cost to the U. S. economy in 2017 is $300B, half

the budget for the U. S. military.

Even those that live in areas unaffected by hurricanes and tornadoes are being impacted. Besides the recurring wildfires here, the cost of food has been

increasing due to crop failures in Florida and lack of water in California. FEMA payouts for

weather disasters continue to increase each year, increasing our tax burden and/or adding to the

National Debt. Ocean warming is causing many wild fish and shellfish stocks to be endangered,

including the wild salmon fishery off the west coast. Many west-coast rivers don’t have runs

anymore. The incidents of insect-borne diseases including West Nile Virus, Zika, Dengue and

Spotted Fever have TRIPLED in the U. S. from 2004 to 2016. Air pollution is responsible for over

10 million deaths world-wide and 200,000 deaths in US each year, more than cigarettes, war or

famine.

Global Warming is now accelerating because we have reached a “tipping-point” caused by effects

that reinforce warming. Shrinkage of the ice-caps reduces the heat reflected back into space.

In addition to oil exploration, thawing permafrost releases Methane gas, a greenhouse gas 80 times more potent than CO2.

Forests, which along with the oceans are the ONLY absorbers of CO2, are shrinking at an

alarming rate due to wildfires and deforestation for farming. Global Warming is one of the top

threats to mankind. It’s time for everyone to take this seriously at the ballot box and in your

personal choices.

Well written and all correct, Patriot. However, these know nothing denialists will not accept any of it, no matter what the evidence and observations say. They are members of the Trump cult, and believe that any lie you tell long enough becomes the truth.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

The Ocean’s Carbon Balance

You are the one that knows next to nothing. Anyone can look at the NASA site for the information on this subject;

Carbon Cycle | Science Mission Directorate


The ocean plays a vital dominant role in the Earth's carbon cycle. The total amount of carbon in the ocean is about 50 times greater than the amount in the atmosphere, and is exchanged with the atmosphere on a time-scale of several hundred years.

 

[Old Rocks]

Here is the TRUE history of U.S. Wildfire lossed since 1926:

Total Wildland Fires and Acres (1926-2017)

Total Wildland Fires and Acres (1926-2017)
The National Interagency Coordination Center at NIFC compiles annual wildland fire statistics for federal and state agencies. This information is provided through Situation Reports, which have been in use for several decades. Prior to 1983, sources of these figures are not known, or cannot be confirmed, and were not derived from the current situation reporting process. As a result the figures prior to 1983 should not be compared to later data.

Source: National Interagency Coordination Center

National Interagency Fire Center

Real convenient of you to leave out the disclaimer at the head of the list. In spite of the fact that we have huge four engine jet tankers, helicopters, and all kinds of heavy equipment, the fires today actually burn into our cities and have destroyed some small towns. Over 10 thousand homes lost in California alone in just one season.

 

[Old Rocks]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

No, these dolts never read a damned thing. They are fucking ignorant rednecks, room temperature IQ's that think that the absorption spectra of the GHGs do not matter.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

I have a friend who is a scientist in NOAA. He told me Friday that Al Gore and company are making millions off their phony "climate change" scam.

Then your friend, like you, is a liar. You guys are like your orange clown, all you know is lies. And anyone that now backs that treasonous bastard after Helsinki is complicit in that treason.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yawn......Zzzzz…

So many errors spotted but you wouldn't know since you didn't make a factual case for any of it.

Please bring rational thinking to the forum next time.

You would have to look pretty hard to find someone more misinformed than the OP..

Oh my, SSoDDumb, of the smart photons is calling someone else misinformed? LOL

 

[skookerasbil]

We've been hearing "its everybody's problem" for 25 years now. But nobody is having any sense of urgency about this "problem"....in fact, the lack of any action on climate change is rather astounding. And that's after we've seen in recent years the bomb throwing getting just beyond absurd ( ie: flying rivers, cities under water, terrorism caused by global warming, tsunamis caused by climate change). Yet still Americans show zero interest in opening up their wallets s0ns! So while a few folks see it as this daunting "problem", until we see a glacier floating up the Hudson River, most people are far to concerned with real problems to care!

This is the dynamic that the climate crusaders just fail to comprehend. Indeed, the science doesn't matter if it fails to transcend the science!!

 

[Hossfly]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

I have a friend who is a scientist in NOAA. He told me Friday that Al Gore and company are making millions off their phony "climate change" scam.

Then your friend, like you, is a liar. You guys are like your orange clown, all you know is lies. And anyone that now backs that treasonous bastard after Helsinki is complicit in that treason.

In person, you wouldn't make that statement. Only on a keyboard.