Why Aren’t Liberal Women Outraged By Sharia Law?

[emilynghiem]

So, the biggest LIAR ever to hit USMB is saying I don't have a right to freedom of speech? What a surprise...

Free speech is a natural right that is inalienable.

The only way you can mess up your free speech is abusing it to cause disruption of the peace,
bear false witness/slander/libel, commit fraud to harm oneself or others, or obstruct justice,
due process, or right to petition to redress grievances by speaking falsely or misrepresenting.

As long as you don't abuse your free speech, and you respect the same of others,
then who can stop you. Go for it but just don't abuse it to obstruct the process of reaching an agreed understanding.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

So, the biggest LIAR ever to hit USMB is saying I don't have a right to freedom of speech? What a surprise...

Free speech is a natural right that is inalienable.

The only way you can mess up your free speech is abusing it to cause disruption of the peace,
bear false witness/slander/libel, commit fraud to harm oneself or others, or obstruct justice,
due process, or right to petition to redress grievances by speaking falsely or misrepresenting.

As long as you don't abuse your free speech, and you respect the same of others,
then who can stop you. Go for it but just don't abuse it to obstruct the process of reaching an agreed understanding.

If telling lies were illegal, well for starters most of Congress would be in jail.

 

[Lakhota]

So, the biggest LIAR ever to hit USMB is saying I don't have a right to freedom of speech? What a surprise...

Free speech is a natural right that is inalienable.

The only way you can mess up your free speech is abusing it to cause disruption of the peace,
bear false witness/slander/libel, commit fraud to harm oneself or others, or obstruct justice,
due process, or right to petition to redress grievances by speaking falsely or misrepresenting.

As long as you don't abuse your free speech, and you respect the same of others,
then who can stop you. Go for it but just don't abuse it to obstruct the process of reaching an agreed understanding.

That's funny. Please tell that to the NaziCons in Congress (i.e. the GOP Taliban).

 

[emilynghiem]

I'm actually fairly moderate. For instance I support gay "marriage" I support a minimum wage increase. Etc etc.

I also think there are quite a few conservative morons on this site.

But at the moment I'm speaking to the liberal idiot Lakhota who lies, is a racist, is stupid, and just generally needs to shut the **** up.

I think the best way is to let them stick their feet in their own mouths.
Let them talk until they trip themselves up, like hanging by their own ropes.

I find that if I give people room to untangle themselves, they will eventually.
And when it's my turn, people are just as gracious with me.

Sadly , I must wonder if this board is representative of our society in general. Tell any lie, make up any facts, ignore any reality, just to make a political point???

It's like good news bad news.
It is like practice or therapy for learning how to express and resolve grievances we have about the world.

The bad news is there is this learning curve, and the free speech brings out the worst sides sometimes.

The good news is that we are throwing word bombs and not using real weapons to attack each other.
If we can hash out our differences civilly, even with the hostile name calling and emotions attached,
there is hope for the real world. We can use each other here for practice in resolving issues,
not just target practice for venting.

In general our citizenry does need to learn how to spell out and resolve our grievances,
and communicate UNIFIED solutions we all agree on, if we are going to instruct our govt leaders
what policies to make or to change.

If we keep fighting and don't even agree among each other, the politicians take advantage
and use that conflict to sell themselves as the solution. Why not bypass the politics,
come up with our own solutions directly, feed that through our parties and get that into govt?

We the people need to be in charge, not playing the victim card complaining we are helpless.

So that is what I see we could and should be using these internet groups and forums to do:
organize solutions across party lines, write up the proposed corrections, and present these
to govt officials so they have clear marching orders from the people who hire them
on what kind of legislation we agree should be passed.

 

[Kondor3]

So, the biggest LIAR ever to hit USMB is saying I don't have a right to freedom of speech? What a surprise...

Free speech is a natural right that is inalienable.

The only way you can mess up your free speech is abusing it to cause disruption of the peace,
bear false witness/slander/libel, commit fraud to harm oneself or others, or obstruct justice,
due process, or right to petition to redress grievances by speaking falsely or misrepresenting.

As long as you don't abuse your free speech, and you respect the same of others,
then who can stop you. Go for it but just don't abuse it to obstruct the process of reaching an agreed understanding.

That's funny. Please tell that to the NaziCons in Congress (i.e. the GOP Taliban).

NaziCons?

GOP Taliban?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

So, the biggest LIAR ever to hit USMB is saying I don't have a right to freedom of speech? What a surprise...

Free speech is a natural right that is inalienable.

The only way you can mess up your free speech is abusing it to cause disruption of the peace,
bear false witness/slander/libel, commit fraud to harm oneself or others, or obstruct justice,
due process, or right to petition to redress grievances by speaking falsely or misrepresenting.

As long as you don't abuse your free speech, and you respect the same of others,
then who can stop you. Go for it but just don't abuse it to obstruct the process of reaching an agreed understanding.

That's funny. Please tell that to the NaziCons in Congress (i.e. the GOP Taliban).

NaziCons?

GOP Taliban?

I know right? Lakhota is a drooling moron.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I'm actually fairly moderate. For instance I support gay "marriage" I support a minimum wage increase. Etc etc.

I also think there are quite a few conservative morons on this site.

But at the moment I'm speaking to the liberal idiot Lakhota who lies, is a racist, is stupid, and just generally needs to shut the **** up.

I think the best way is to let them stick their feet in their own mouths.
Let them talk until they trip themselves up, like hanging by their own ropes.

I find that if I give people room to untangle themselves, they will eventually.
And when it's my turn, people are just as gracious with me.

Sadly , I must wonder if this board is representative of our society in general. Tell any lie, make up any facts, ignore any reality, just to make a political point???

It's like good news bad news.
It is like practice or therapy for learning how to express and resolve grievances we have about the world.

The bad news is there is this learning curve, and the free speech brings out the worst sides sometimes.

The good news is that we are throwing word bombs and not using real weapons to attack each other.
If we can hash out our differences civilly, even with the hostile name calling and emotions attached,
there is hope for the real world. We can use each other here for practice in resolving issues,
not just target practice for venting.

In general our citizenry does need to learn how to spell out and resolve our grievances,
and communicate UNIFIED solutions we all agree on, if we are going to instruct our govt leaders
what policies to make or to change.

If we keep fighting and don't even agree among each other, the politicians take advantage
and use that conflict to sell themselves as the solution. Why not bypass the politics,
come up with our own solutions directly, feed that through our parties and get that into govt?

We the people need to be in charge, not playing the victim card complaining we are helpless.

So that is what I see we could and should be using these internet groups and forums to do:
organize solutions across party lines, write up the proposed corrections, and present these
to govt officials so they have clear marching orders from the people who hire them
on what kind of legislation we agree should be passed.

I disagree. We the people should not be in charge until there are some standards where idiots like Lakhota are not permitted to vote.


I mean seriously, that person is a raving lunatic and should have NO say in our government.

 

[emilynghiem]

If telling lies were illegal, well for starters most of Congress would be in jail.

Instead of jail which we pay for, why not hold the members of Congress responsible for
the federal shutdown that cost an estimated $24 billion. Demand that the parties responsible
pay that back before running any more campaigns for office.

if it takes 2-4 years to raise the money, maybe Greens and Libertarians will have a chance
to run for office if the Republicans and Democrats are grounded for not solving their conflicts
BEFORE passing the ACA bill and budget that caused the deadlock and shutdown.

If you can't do your jobs right, where policies reflect the consent of ALL the public,
and you keep fighting over political agenda that is NOT following the Constitution,
then you should have to pay the costs for your own negligent performance on the job
and failure to resolve issues to prevent that damage and debt to the public.

Why not hold them to pay back the $24 billion they incurred at taxpayer expense?
And use it fund separate health care models per party instead of fighting which system to use.
give taxpayers free and equal choice, instead of mandating one policy only representing half the nation
which cause govt to shut down.

 

[emilynghiem]

I disagree. We the people should not be in charge until there are some standards where idiots like Lakhota are not permitted to vote.

I mean seriously, that person is a raving lunatic and should have NO say in our government.

You and I might agree in spirit, but have different ways of correcting these same problems:

1. require that all citizens must agree to abide by laws in order to become equal privileged citizens
upon turning 18, including signing agreement to pay the costs of infractions where either the
person or a cosigning sponsors agrees to the legal and financial responsibilities where it doesn't land on the public.

2. let people with different political beliefs fund and support these through their own parties.
recognize the various platforms as political beliefs, religions or creeds that cannot be passed
into law without the consent of the governed parties and taxpayers by religious freedom and 14th amendment.

So people like lakotha would have to pay for their own belief systems
and allow others to pay for theirs and quit imposing on each other through govt.

And if you commit a crime, abuse, corruption or violation of law that costs money
to other citizens or taxpayers, you are financially responsible for that and must
sign a legal agreement in order to reside in cities or districts that adopt such an ordinance for its residents.

 

[emilynghiem]

NaziCons?

GOP Taliban?

I'm a prochoice Democrat who is a Constitutionalist and believes in equal inclusion of all political and religious views
in public policies decided by consent so they represent the full public.

I'm probably scarier than any GOP or Taliban because my views of isonomy would require
conflict resolution and consensus between opposing groups, or else get out of the way and let others lead
who can reach agreements that represent their entire populations.

That's scarier to make peace than people who declare war.
anyone can attack someone else and succeed in making war.
Trying making peace where opposing sides agree to a solution
and to set aside the parts they can't agree on and handle that separately.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I disagree. We the people should not be in charge until there are some standards where idiots like Lakhota are not permitted to vote.

I mean seriously, that person is a raving lunatic and should have NO say in our government.

You and I might agree in spirit, but have different ways of correcting these same problems:

1. require that all citizens must agree to abide by laws in order to become equal privileged citizens
upon turning 18, including signing agreement to pay the costs of infractions where either the
person or a cosigning sponsors agrees to the legal and financial responsibilities where it doesn't land on the public.

2. let people with different political beliefs fund and support these through their own parties.
recognize the various platforms as political beliefs, religions or creeds that cannot be passed
into law without the consent of the governed parties and taxpayers by religious freedom and 14th amendment.

So people like lakotha would have to pay for their own belief systems
and allow others to pay for theirs and quit imposing on each other through govt.

And if you commit a crime, abuse, corruption or violation of law that costs money
to other citizens or taxpayers, you are financially responsible for that and must
sign a legal agreement in order to reside in cities or districts that adopt such an ordinance for its residents.

That's insane. Let each citizen pay for things they agree with? I agree with literally NOTHING the federal government does, so I want my $106K back.

Would never work.

And frankly, I'm not stuck on 18 as the minimum voting age, and why is there a minimum but no maximum?

You want to "fix" government, it's easy.

1. Switch to online voting. No exceptions, if you can't find a computer to vote at, too ******* bad.

2. Voter exams. If you're not intelligent enough to pass a basic civics exam then you don't get to vote. No matter if you're 16 or 50. Can't pass the exam, too ******* bad.

3. If you've been on welfare for more than 12 months out of any 4 years, you don't get to vote.

Those 3 simple steps would do MUCH to fix all the problems with our government.

 

[Lakhota]

I disagree. We the people should not be in charge until there are some standards where idiots like Lakhota are not permitted to vote.

I mean seriously, that person is a raving lunatic and should have NO say in our government.

You and I might agree in spirit, but have different ways of correcting these same problems:

1. require that all citizens must agree to abide by laws in order to become equal privileged citizens
upon turning 18, including signing agreement to pay the costs of infractions where either the
person or a cosigning sponsors agrees to the legal and financial responsibilities where it doesn't land on the public.

2. let people with different political beliefs fund and support these through their own parties.
recognize the various platforms as political beliefs, religions or creeds that cannot be passed
into law without the consent of the governed parties and taxpayers by religious freedom and 14th amendment.

So people like lakotha would have to pay for their own belief systems
and allow others to pay for theirs and quit imposing on each other through govt.

And if you commit a crime, abuse, corruption or violation of law that costs money
to other citizens or taxpayers, you are financially responsible for that and must
sign a legal agreement in order to reside in cities or districts that adopt such an ordinance for its residents.

That's insane. Let each citizen pay for things they agree with? I agree with literally NOTHING the federal government does, so I want my $106K back.

Would never work.

And frankly, I'm not stuck on 18 as the minimum voting age, and why is there a minimum but no maximum?

You want to "fix" government, it's easy.

1. Switch to online voting. No exceptions, if you can't find a computer to vote at, too ******* bad.

2. Voter exams. If you're not intelligent enough to pass a basic civics exam then you don't get to vote. No matter if you're 16 or 50. Can't pass the exam, too ******* bad.

3. If you've been on welfare for more than 12 months out of any 4 years, you don't get to vote.

Those 3 simple steps would do MUCH to fix all the problems with our government.

Thanks for playing, Adolf.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I disagree. We the people should not be in charge until there are some standards where idiots like Lakhota are not permitted to vote.

I mean seriously, that person is a raving lunatic and should have NO say in our government.

You and I might agree in spirit, but have different ways of correcting these same problems:

1. require that all citizens must agree to abide by laws in order to become equal privileged citizens
upon turning 18, including signing agreement to pay the costs of infractions where either the
person or a cosigning sponsors agrees to the legal and financial responsibilities where it doesn't land on the public.

2. let people with different political beliefs fund and support these through their own parties.
recognize the various platforms as political beliefs, religions or creeds that cannot be passed
into law without the consent of the governed parties and taxpayers by religious freedom and 14th amendment.

So people like lakotha would have to pay for their own belief systems
and allow others to pay for theirs and quit imposing on each other through govt.

And if you commit a crime, abuse, corruption or violation of law that costs money
to other citizens or taxpayers, you are financially responsible for that and must
sign a legal agreement in order to reside in cities or districts that adopt such an ordinance for its residents.

That's insane. Let each citizen pay for things they agree with? I agree with literally NOTHING the federal government does, so I want my $106K back.

Would never work.

And frankly, I'm not stuck on 18 as the minimum voting age, and why is there a minimum but no maximum?

You want to "fix" government, it's easy.

1. Switch to online voting. No exceptions, if you can't find a computer to vote at, too ******* bad.

2. Voter exams. If you're not intelligent enough to pass a basic civics exam then you don't get to vote. No matter if you're 16 or 50. Can't pass the exam, too ******* bad.

3. If you've been on welfare for more than 12 months out of any 4 years, you don't get to vote.

Those 3 simple steps would do MUCH to fix all the problems with our government.

Thanks for playing, Adolf.

Shouldn't you be looking for those mythical lies of mine? Seriously, this thread is no place for a lightweight such as yourself, you might get hurt.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can anyone actually name a woman who is

1) a bonafide liberal by any reasonable measure, and,

2) also a supporter of Sharia Law?

...or is the OP full of shit to begin with?

I'll turn that right around on you - can you show any woman in the USA who is a conservative and supports Sharia?

Yet look at the lies your fellow Communist Shitting Bull has posted about the "Christians" and Sharia.

Okay so you can't name any. Anyone else want to try?

Name any what ? What the **** are you talking about? I haven't defended the OP at all you moron, I merely pointed out that you LIED about what the OP said.

If the OP wants to acknowledge that most feminists do in fact oppose Sharia Law, and he is really only contesting the amount of 'outrage' they show,

then I'll stand corrected. Otherwise I stand by my earlier statement.

why so dishonest? YOU put words in the OP's mouth. If you think that is what he meant, then it is your job to prove it, not his job to prove you're wrong.

Further , the OP was about LIBERALS, not FEMINISTS, so that is another blatant lie from you.

I'm waiting for him to deny it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Please name one place in America where Sharia Law is a problem.

Figuratively speaking,

Hobby Lobby.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Please name one place in America where Sharia Law is a problem.

Figuratively speaking,

Hobby Lobby.

LOL yes because Hobby Lobby stones you if you ask for Plan B

Get the **** out of here

 

[Lakhota]

Please name one place in America where Sharia Law is a problem.

Figuratively speaking,

Hobby Lobby.

I agree - but I call them the Christian Taliban.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Please name one place in America where Sharia Law is a problem.

Figuratively speaking,

Hobby Lobby.

I agree - but I call them the Christian Taliban.

That's better than calling them Kikes


I suppose.

 

[kaz]

Please name one place in America where Sharia Law is a problem.

So you admit you only care about women in the US? That's cold.

Well, sparky, what Muslims do in their own countries is their business - not mine.

How many sheets of paper would it take to write down all your double standards over that one?

So you opposed Obama meddling in Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt and the Ukraine because what happens in other countries isn't our problem? You oppose criticism of Israel, not our problem what they do in their country? Funny, you never mention this standard. Probably because it isn't one, it's an excuse.

 

[Redfish]

Conservative Americans agree with far more tenets of sharia law than any half-decent liberal.

horseshit.