Zone1 Why are democrats across the country lowering sentences for violent crimes

[2aguy]

Here we have a fresh story....democrats trying to lower the sentences for pedophiles....

Just to ensure that they are totally on-brand, the bill specifically mentions reductions in sentences for pedophiles. Gotta ensure pedos get a break, right?

WTF is WRONG with these people?

Let's take a look at some of the language in the bill, so you can see what crimes they are wanting to modify the sentences for:

Virginia Democrats Pushing to Release Rapists, Murderers, and Child Molesters Early

hotair.com

And more on the democrats....what is it with them and criminals..

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
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Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds


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Washington state...



So why are Washington Democrats offering up a bill in the state legislature to lower the penalties for drive-by shootings? Well, there’s woke and then there’s just plain stupid. Washington state Democrats are vying to become the best stupid they can be, bless ’em.

Currently, Washington law holds that a drive-by shooter should get an aggravated enhancement if he is arrested and prosecuted—and that’s a big if. Such an enhancement could land a drive-by murderer a life prison sentence.

But under a bill proposed for the upcoming Washington state legislature by white, woke ex-con state Rep. Tarra Simmons and her co-sponsor David Hackney, the reduction in penalties is a move toward “racial equity.” That’s right, drive-by shooting prosecutorial outcomes are racist. Never mind all the black and brown people who are the disproportionate victims of drive-by shootings.

Washington State Democrats Want Decreased Penalties for Drive-By Shooters Because... Aw, You Guessed

 

[martybegan]

Here we have a fresh story....democrats trying to lower the sentences for pedophiles....

Just to ensure that they are totally on-brand, the bill specifically mentions reductions in sentences for pedophiles. Gotta ensure pedos get a break, right?

WTF is WRONG with these people?

Let's take a look at some of the language in the bill, so you can see what crimes they are wanting to modify the sentences for:

Virginia Democrats Pushing to Release Rapists, Murderers, and Child Molesters Early

hotair.com

And more on the democrats....what is it with them and criminals..

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
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Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds


======



Washington state...



So why are Washington Democrats offering up a bill in the state legislature to lower the penalties for drive-by shootings? Well, there’s woke and then there’s just plain stupid. Washington state Democrats are vying to become the best stupid they can be, bless ’em.

Currently, Washington law holds that a drive-by shooter should get an aggravated enhancement if he is arrested and prosecuted—and that’s a big if. Such an enhancement could land a drive-by murderer a life prison sentence.

But under a bill proposed for the upcoming Washington state legislature by white, woke ex-con state Rep. Tarra Simmons and her co-sponsor David Hackney, the reduction in penalties is a move toward “racial equity.” That’s right, drive-by shooting prosecutorial outcomes are racist. Never mind all the black and brown people who are the disproportionate victims of drive-by shootings.

Washington State Democrats Want Decreased Penalties for Drive-By Shooters Because... Aw, You Guessed

Because to them the criminals are the real victims of an unjust system.

 

[August West]

Why are Republicans assuring that any a-hole that wants a gun can have one? The NRA is and has always been Public Enemy #1 and a friend to all criminals and crazy people.

 

[2aguy]

Why are Republicans assuring that any a-hole that wants a gun can have one? The NRA is and has always been Public Enemy #1 and a friend to all criminals and crazy people.

We have laws on the books that stop them....

You ignored the two specific examples I listed of democrats reducing the sentences for actual violent criminals caught not only with illegal guns.....but doing drive by shootings.........

We arrest the criminals, and the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians are releasing them.........

Like these guys....

Prosecutors allege the men stole fragrance items from Ulta valued at about $1,331 and shoes and a hat from the Nike store totaling $726.98.

"When the defendants were apprehended, they were allegedly laughing at the officers and not taking this matter seriously," said DuPage County State’s Attorney Robert Berlin. "While the defendants may not take the charges lightly, in DuPage County, we take these allegations very seriously."
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At a court hearing on Wednesday, the judge denied the motion to detain the suspects pre-trial. All individuals have been charged with felony burglary and felony retail theft, scheduled to appear in court again on March 18.

5 more migrants charged with theft from Oak Brook stores

Five Venezuelan migrants have been charged with theft from two separate Oak Brook stores on Tuesday.

www.fox32chicago.com

 

[Donald H]

The law must prescribe punishment that suits the crime. Shooting out a window in a house doesn't call for a life sentence.
This is an abuse of the justice system as much as the Rittenhouse law.

The progun side should be careful of what they oppose.

Canada disregards politics and enact laws that fit the crime. That can be discussed here but only rationally and politely.

 

[martybegan]

Why are Republicans assuring that any a-hole that wants a gun can have one? The NRA is and has always been Public Enemy #1 and a friend to all criminals and crazy people.

Zone 1.

This isn't the crux of the thread, try to stick to the topic, if you can.

 

[2aguy]

Why are Republicans assuring that any a-hole that wants a gun can have one? The NRA is and has always been Public Enemy #1 and a friend to all criminals and crazy people.

And you have to explain this....

Chicago.......

Last Monday, hours after three people were shot and three others stabbed in separate incidents following the Chicago Pride Parade, city officials offered glowing reviews of their performance.

Everyone responsible for the shootings and stabbings was in custody, they said.

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ndeed, moments after the shooting, Chicago police arrested three people who allegedly had a gun in a pickup truck similar to one that was seen speeding away from the shooting.

And police arrested a woman for allegedly slashing and stabbing three people near the Belmont Red Line station.

But, CWBChicago has learned, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office refused to file any charges against the three people who were in the pickup truck. As of this morning, no one is in custody for the triple shooting.

And the stabbing case?

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Well, CPD issued a press release last Tuesday evening to announce that a woman had been charged with three felony counts of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.

On Wednesday morning, they issued a correction. She had only been charged with misdemeanors.

Why? Because the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office rejected felony charges.

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[Auld Phart]

The law must prescribe punishment that suits the crime. Shooting out a window in a house doesn't call for a life sentence.
This is an abuse of the justice system as much as the Rittenhouse law.

The progun side should be careful of what they oppose.

Canada disregards politics and enact laws that fit the crime. That can be discussed here but only rationally and politely.

This is an abuse of the justice system as much as the Rittenhouse law.

the 'Rittenhouse' law?


care to explain what that law is

 

[Donald H]

the 'Rittenhouse' law?


care to explain what that law is

Yes, because it applies to this discussion in my opinion. Criminals such as Rittenhouse murders and walks away free. While a crime such as shooting out a window hears the progun side advocation life in prison.

America's justice system and it's prison system are complete failures and no Americans are offering any ideas on how to fix it.

Pay the bill and ignore it.

If you want a discussion, ask questions.

 

[Mac-7]

Why are Republicans assuring that any a-hole that wants a gun can have one?

Dont answer a question with a question

If you cant defend soft-on-crime lib policies just admit it and remain silent while the rest of us engage in a serious discussion

 

[Auld Phart]

Yes, because it applies to this discussion in my opinion. Criminals such as Rittenhouse murders and walks away free. While a crime such as shooting out a window hears the progun side advocation life in prison.

America's justice system and it's prison system are complete failures and no Americans are offering any ideas on how to fix it.

Pay the bill and ignore it.

If you want a discussion, ask questions.

Criminals such as Rittenhouse murders

Rittenhouse 'murdered' no one.

he was attacked and protected himself.

that is usually referred to as Self Defense.

 

[Mac-7]

Zone 1.

This isn't the crux of the thread, try to stick to the topic, if you can.

He cant

 

[2aguy]

Yes, because it applies to this discussion in my opinion. Criminals such as Rittenhouse murders and walks away free. While a crime such as shooting out a window hears the progun side advocation life in prison.

America's justice system and it's prison system are complete failures and no Americans are offering any ideas on how to fix it.

Pay the bill and ignore it.

If you want a discussion, ask questions.

Rittenhouse didn't murder anyone, as you know....he was violently attacked by 3 democrat party brown shirts in antifa and blm.....and fired in self defense....as was the decision in the trial.

 

[Donald H]

Rittenhouse 'murdered' no one.

he was attacked and protected himself.

that is usually referred to as Self Defense.

Rittenhouse's murders lowered the bar for Chauvin's murder, but Chauvin bit off more than he could chew, just a bit too soon.

Now our 2Aguy advocates vigilante justice!

 

[Auld Phart]

Rittenhouse's murders lowered the bar for Chauvin's murder, but Chauvin bit off more than he could chew, just a bit too soon.

Now our 2Aguy advocates vigilante justice!

again...

Rittenhouse murdered no one.

 

[Donald H]

again...

Rittenhouse murdered no one.

Alright then, think of it as a test case, to determine when or if death by citizen with a gun is to become legitimate and acceptable.

From a Canadian POV, I'm already firmly decided against it for my country. I guess I don't have the authority to care a lick for what America decides.

 

[Auld Phart]

Alright then, think of it as a test case, to determine when or if death by citizen with a gun is to become legitimate and acceptable.

From a Canadian POV, I'm already firmly decided against it for my country. I guess I don't have the authority to care a lick for what America decides.

Canadians don't have the right to self defense?

Glad I don't live up there

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Democrats like setting criminals free because the ensuing chaos makes it easier to justify tyranny.

 

[Resnic]

Because democrats don't want to actually fix problems and make things better.

They want the illusion of doing something so they find ways to make it look like they are doing things when they really aren't.

Too many blacks getting arrested because they broke the law? Well we can't have that so we need to take away arrestable offenses so on paper there aren't as many blacks getting arrested on statistical charts.