Who was she?

[frigidweirdo]

He did t say “because she was there”, but because he says she tried to run him over.



Yeah, that’s more a reflection on democrats than it is on republicans. Democrats only cared about deportations when trump is doing it. Makes you wonder, where were the anti ice protests when Biden was deporting illegals?



Agreed, they are protesting trump. I don’t think any of these protesters really care about the issues, I think they are out there just to vent their trump hate. Most of them are likely paid to be there.




There are differing opinions, there are multiple angles. Minnesota is doing an investigation as well, but it’s pointless because we already know where it’s going to go, just like you know where any trump administration investigation would go. The left screamed guilty, even before the alternate angles came out. The reports now are saying the officer is experiencing internal bleeding. How does that happen if he wasn’t hit?

At the end of the day, we’ll be no closer to any truth, so, for me to speculate on what happened would be improper.



On, we don’t know. I wish he would release them. But Ill always go back to, why didn’t Biden release them?




Obama lied too, Biden lied too, did you ever speak out against them?


The government is executive, legislative, and judicial branches, and all the bureaucracies in between, the people who make the decisions, those whom were elected. The people who work for those agencies are not the government. Your freedom to petition was intended to be to your elected representatives.




But there is no point in protesting ice agents since they are not the government and do not have the power to make changes.

Again, protesting an ice agent would be like protesting a grocery store employee because the price of tomatoes is too high.




So your plan is to aggravate ice agents to the point of quitting? Who’s going to enforce our immigration laws?

Can I come to your place of employment and harass you until you quit for things that are beyond your control?

She didn't try and run him over. Not in a million years.

For Trump to say that, he's being totally dishonest.

Maybe they're just protesting Trump. Maybe they're protesting the WAY Trump is doing it. If he wasn't so loud, nobody would have cared. But EVERYTHING with Trump has to be "look, look at me, look at me, I just did something", like an annoying child in class.

Minnesota is NOT doing an investigation, because Trump told them they couldn't. Why?

If Trump is so honest about things, why does he constantly have to hide things?

Biden probably didn't release them for the same reason Trump won't. Protecting powerful people. The US political system is corrupt and it's run by the rich, for the rich.

The government is all parts that are the government. ICE work for the executive branch.

There's lots of point in protesting ICE agents. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't so.

Not my plan. I'm not protesting anyone.

 

[ThisIsMe]

She didn't try and run him over. Not in a million years.

See, I’m not such an absolutist. I honestly don’t know, and I’m not casting judgment either way. The fact that she hit him in the main point. You can argue if her intent was to hit him, we’re not going to know that. If she saw him in front of the vehicle and accelerated anyway, the question will be, should she have known better.

Again, let’s see what the investigation comes up with. We have body cameras I believe, they will tell the story.

Maybe they're just protesting Trump. Maybe they're protesting the WAY Trump is doing it.

I think this is correct. It’s not about illegals, it’s just straight up hatred of trump. Biden was said to have deported more people than trump, hell, Bill Clinton is on video saying the exact same things trump is saying, and nobody batted an eye at Biden or Clinton. All of this is just because it’s trump doing it.

If he wasn't so loud, nobody would have cared. But EVERYTHING with Trump has to be "look, look at me, look at me, I just did something", like an annoying child in class.

I agree, he’s pretty self centered, but he’s just saying out loud what every president actually thinks. You HAVE to be a narcissist to be president. To think YOU are the only person who can fix the country’s problems..yeah, that’s an ego play, for every president.

Minnesota is NOT doing an investigation, because Trump told them they couldn't. Why?

Trump can’t tell a state they can’t conduct their own investigation. They won’t get federal help, but if the state wants to do its own investigation, I don’t guess there is anything trump can do about that.

If Trump is so honest about things, why does he constantly have to hide things?

I don’t know. All I can say is, if trump was guilty, we would know about it. Trump has enough haters and had enough leaks in his first term that there is no way it would have been hidden if it were true.

Biden probably didn't release them for the same reason Trump won't. Protecting powerful people. The US political system is corrupt and it's run by the rich, for the rich.

And knowing that, and yet no democrat is willing to point fingers at Biden. Why?

The government is all parts that are the government. ICE work for the executive branch.

But they are not “the government”, they just work for the government. Protesting them won’t change laws. The politicians have to do that. THAT is where your protest should be.

There's lots of point in protesting ICE agents. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't so.

And they are all wrong. Ice agents can’t change laws.

 

[frigidweirdo]

See, I’m not such an absolutist. I honestly don’t know, and I’m not casting judgment either way. The fact that she hit him in the main point. You can argue if her intent was to hit him, we’re not going to know that. If she saw him in front of the vehicle and accelerated anyway, the question will be, should she have known better.

Again, let’s see what the investigation comes up with. We have body cameras I believe, they will tell the story.



I think this is correct. It’s not about illegals, it’s just straight up hatred of trump. Biden was said to have deported more people than trump, hell, Bill Clinton is on video saying the exact same things trump is saying, and nobody batted an eye at Biden or Clinton. All of this is just because it’s trump doing it.




I agree, he’s pretty self centered, but he’s just saying out loud what every president actually thinks. You HAVE to be a narcissist to be president. To think YOU are the only person who can fix the country’s problems..yeah, that’s an ego play, for every president.




Trump can’t tell a state they can’t conduct their own investigation. They won’t get federal help, but if the state wants to do its own investigation, I don’t guess there is anything trump can do about that.



I don’t know. All I can say is, if trump was guilty, we would know about it. Trump has enough haters and had enough leaks in his first term that there is no way it would have been hidden if it were true.



And knowing that, and yet no democrat is willing to point fingers at Biden. Why?



But they are not “the government”, they just work for the government. Protesting them won’t change laws. The politicians have to do that. THAT is where your protest should be.




And they are all wrong. Ice agents can’t change laws.

Is it the main point? She tried to avoid him, that is pretty obvious, we can see where she drove, we can see the direction she put her tires in. The point is they said she tried to deliberately run this agent over. She didn't. She was trying to avoid a guy standing right in front of her car.

Trump claimed the guy was lucky to survive. Oh please, Trump is a liar.

The investigation will be a sham and will say whatever Trump and Noem want it to say. So no, let's not wait for that sham.

And why do they hate Trump so much? Because he's doing things wrong, he's getting in everyone's face. He's a bad president.

Surely that's something to protest.

Yes, saying out loud what a diplomatic person wouldn't say, because they understand that you DON'T SAY OUT LOUD WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.


Trump told the state they're not doing an investigation.

We do know Trump is guilty.

People aren't pointing the finger at Biden because that's how it goes. But Trump said he'd release the files, and now won't. Why? Obvious.

ICE agents can't change laws. But the lawmakers and the president can see the protests. And they can do something about it.

 

[Leo123]

Is it the main point? She tried to avoid him, that is pretty obvious, we can see where she drove, we can see the direction she put her tires in. The point is they said she tried to deliberately run this agent over. She didn't. She was trying to avoid a guy standing right in front of her car.

Trump claimed the guy was lucky to survive. Oh please, Trump is a liar.

The investigation will be a sham and will say whatever Trump and Noem want it to say. So no, let's not wait for that sham.

And why do they hate Trump so much? Because he's doing things wrong, he's getting in everyone's face. He's a bad president.

Surely that's something to protest.

Yes, saying out loud what a diplomatic person wouldn't say, because they understand that you DON'T SAY OUT LOUD WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.


Trump told the state they're not doing an investigation.

We do know Trump is guilty.

People aren't pointing the finger at Biden because that's how it goes. But Trump said he'd release the files, and now won't. Why? Obvious.

ICE agents can't change laws. But the lawmakers and the president can see the protests. And they can do something about it.

She friggin' HIT HIM! It doesn't matter what she was trying to do, she struck the officer with her car and now, we hear, cause internal bleeding. She did not heed the officer she listened to her 'wife' who told her to drive. She played a stupid game and got herself offed.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Is it the main point? She tried to avoid him, that is pretty obvious, we can see where she drove, we can see the direction she put her tires in.

Well again, let’s see what the investigation comes up with. I just don’t see the need to besmirch a woman who lost her life.

Trump claimed the guy was lucky to survive. Oh please, Trump is a liar.

I haven’t heard that but I’ll take your word for it. You know, people who play politics say political things.

The investigation will be a sham and will say whatever Trump and Noem want it to say. So no, let's not wait for that sham.

I’m taking about the Minnesota investigation.

Either way, for me, it doesn’t matter. I’m not going to trample on her grave, no matter what the result is.

And why do they hate Trump so much? Because he's doing things wrong, he's getting in everyone's face. He's a bad president.

No, they hate trump because they are told to. Almost all of the division is media driven. This goes for the right too. If people were really interested in doing the right thing, they would hold their side accountable first.

Yes, saying out loud what a diplomatic person wouldn't say, because they understand that you DON'T SAY OUT LOUD WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

Yeah, trump has no filter, the point is, all presidents thing like that, trump just has the fault of speaking his mind, or, maybe that’s a good thing…

Trump told the state they're not doing an investigation.

Ok, so the state tells trump to pound sand, easy peasy.

We do know Trump is guilty.

No, you assume he’s guilty because you want him to be.

People aren't pointing the finger at Biden because that's how it goes.

…I know, and that’s the problem

But Trump said he'd release the files, and now won't. Why? Obvious.

Why does that even matter? I really do not see how Biden not stating he would release the files excuses that he didn’t.

Again, if he knew, he had an obligation.

ICE agents can't change laws. But the lawmakers and the president can see the protests. And they can do something about it.

Right, and so the protests should be toward the lawmakers.

To petition the government for the redress of grievances means, to implore them to make changes. This is not going to happen at the agent level, but only at the legislative level. Harassing ice agent is just….harassment.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well again, let’s see what the investigation comes up with. I just don’t see the need to besmirch a woman who lost her life.




I haven’t heard that but I’ll take your word for it. You know, people who play politics say political things.




I’m taking about the Minnesota investigation.

Either way, for me, it doesn’t matter. I’m not going to trample on her grave, no matter what the result is.




No, they hate trump because they are told to. Almost all of the division is media driven. This goes for the right too. If people were really interested in doing the right thing, they would hold their side accountable first.



Yeah, trump has no filter, the point is, all presidents thing like that, trump just has the fault of speaking his mind, or, maybe that’s a good thing…




Ok, so the state tells trump to pound sand, easy peasy.



No, you assume he’s guilty because you want him to be.



…I know, and that’s the problem




Why does that even matter? I really do not see how Biden not stating he would release the files excuses that he didn’t.

Again, if he knew, he had an obligation.




Right, and so the protests should be toward the lawmakers.

To petition the government for the redress of grievances means, to implore them to make changes. This is not going to happen at the agent level, but only at the legislative level. Harassing ice agent is just….harassment.

Trump doesn't say "political thing". Trump lies out of his ASS.

MSN

"Donald Trump says 'it's hard to believe ICE agent is alive' after Minneapolis shooting"

"Trump said he has "viewed the clip" of the incident and called the deceased woman "a professional agitator", adding that "it is hard to believe he is alive," referring to the ICE officer injured."

If he's actually watched a clip of it, he wouldn't find it hard to believe he's still alive. The only reason he was in danger in the first place was because he was standing somewhere he shouldn't have been standing.

Trump and Noem came out that first day and decided they were going to control the narrative by LYING SO BADLY it's impossible not to see Trump for what he is.

Look, a lot of people in politics, and around politics, are manipulated by the rich. Trump's an expert at it. And he's playing the game and others are playing the game.

I support having Proportional Representation because I think it leads to more sensible politics, but the current state of affairs in the free world is looking pretty grim.

How many people actually go out there and do their own research? I'd say on a forum like this, with people actively speaking about politics, it's probably as low as about 5% or less. 95% of the forum have no idea what they're talking about. Facebook is even worse.

So yes, a lot of these people will be doing things they don't understand. HOWEVER, what they're opposing is the same thing. Trump either doesn't know what he's doing, dangerous, or he does, which is even more dangerous.

So, people opposing a fuckhead like Trump who keeps calling for no elections, for a third term, for people losing their rights and all of this, he DESERVES to be protested against.

The problem with the investigation from the state is, they might not have access to a lot of the things because the feds have made them disappear.

No, I know Trump is guilty, I know he's a criminal, I know he does dodgy things. You can see the patterns.

What I also know is that Trump has had a life time of avoiding getting caught, because he knows when to get other people to do his work for him.

Hence why he has yes people, "go do this" "yes" and they do it, and then they get found out.

People have a right to protest. You can't dictate who they protest. That's not what the 1A is for.

 

[Hafar1014]

You do not know anything about her or her parenting abilities you dumb shit. You do not know what her first husband put here through or how he used her relationship with the woman who became her wife against her . In addition, she had custody of the youngest child from her second husband who died . If she were such a terrible parent, wouldn't she have lost custody of that child also. . Your post only raises questions about your mental status and judgement.

She is emotionally disturbed and democrats used her as cannon fodder by creating a political vigilante who was incapable of dealing with the situation she placed herself in. She obstructed justice resisted arrest and used a 4000 pound car as a weapon to escape. All she had to do was nothing instead she showed poor judgement and stepped on the gas.
When poor judgment kills you thats the hallmark of mental illness.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trump doesn't say "political thing". Trump lies out of his ASS.

As do all politicians.

"Trump said he has "viewed the clip" of the incident and called the deceased woman "a professional agitator", adding that "it is hard to believe he is alive," referring to the ICE officer injured."

Again, he’s playing up the politics, that’s what politicians do.

If he's actually watched a clip of it, he wouldn't find it hard to believe he's still alive. The only reason he was in danger in the first place was because he was standing somewhere he shouldn't have been standing.

And there are different angles of the clip, and different opinions of it. I want to see what..whatever investigation comes up with. Maybe it might uncover something we haven’t seen.

Trump and Noem came out that first day and decided they were going to control the narrative by LYING SO BADLY it's impossible not to see Trump for what he is.

Yeah, but left wing media didn’t same thing. They were calling it a murder from the very start, even before any real evidence came out.

Look, a lot of people in politics, and around politics, are manipulated by the rich. Trump's an expert at it. And he's playing the game and others are playing the game.

Ok, most of our elected leaders are wealthy, or become wealthy while in office. Neither side seems to mind that.

I support having Proportional Representation because I think it leads to more sensible politics, but the current state of affairs in the free world is looking pretty grim.

Correct, and we actually do have proportional representation already. It’s why California has 54 votes and Wyoming has 3.

How many people actually go out there and do their own research? I'd say on a forum like this, with people actively speaking about politics, it's probably as low as about 5% or less. 95% of the forum have no idea what they're talking about. Facebook is even worse.

I agree, we all need to do better about being informed before speaking, but we also need to be better about letting politics sway our opinions just because we don’t like the other side.

So yes, a lot of these people will be doing things they don't understand. HOWEVER, what they're opposing is the same thing. Trump either doesn't know what he's doing, dangerous, or he does, which is even more dangerous.

Ok, I’m not sure what this is in response to, hard to follow when the posts they are not responding to are not included, sorry.

So, people opposing a fuckhead like Trump who keeps calling for no elections, for a third term, for people losing their rights and all of this, he DESERVES to be protested against.

Sure, and you should protest the government for that, not people in the streets.

Your elected leaders, senators, representatives. That’s what petitioning your government looks like.

The problem with the investigation from the state is, they might not have access to a lot of the things because the feds have made them disappear.

What evidence, besides maybe body cameras, would the state not have access to?

No, I know Trump is guilty, I know he's a criminal, I know he does dodgy things. You can see the patterns.

You have no idea if he’s guilty of anything with Epstein, you claim he does because you want to believe that. It’s all just assumption at this point.

What I also know is that Trump has had a life time of avoiding getting caught, because he knows when to get other people to do his work for him.

Smoke and mirrors. What you “know” is what left wing media has been drilling into yours, and other people’s heads, for more than a decade. Trump was a “good guy” when he was a Clinton donor, but when he decided to run for president, he became the worst person in the world, and the media made sure to smear him and twist every single thing he ever did to make him look bad.

Has he done some shady stuff? Sure, but you don’t think the Clintons have done some shady stuff? Or many other democrats politicians? The only difference between them and trump is they didn’t go on a crusade against them, and twist context about every action they ever made.

People have a right to protest. You can't dictate who they protest. That's not what the 1A is for.

Yes, we can dictate who they protest, because that’s what the cotus and law does. The cotus says you have the right to PETITION your GOVERNMENT for the redress of grievances. It doesn’t say you can harass agents, or stand in the street and block citizens, beat on their cars, prevent them from moving.

The police need to start enforcing this more.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

She is emotionally disturbed and democrats used her as cannon fodder by creating a political vigilante who was incapable of dealing with the situation she placed herself in. She obstructed justice resisted arrest and used a 4000 pound car as a weapon to escape. All she had to do was nothing instead she showed poor judgement and stepped on the gas.
When poor judgment kills you thats the hallmark of mental illness.

Holy shit!! You’re some piece of work. Seems like whatever the subject- be it trans people or now this- all that you gab do is mindlessly repeat the inane talking points spoon fed to you by the mad king and his thugs. You claimed to have an advanced degree in psychology but you dishonor that profession by making absurd judgements about her mental health who you don’t know based on what other hateful jadrools are saying on the internet. Regardless of any of that , anyone who watch the videos can plainly see that the murderer fired at least two of the three shots from the side of the car as it moved away from him. There is no justification for the use of deadly force, but you seem to be too brain washed and blinded by hateful ideology to see that

 

[Hafar1014]

Holy shit!! You’re some piece of work. Seems like whatever the subject- be it trans people or now this- all that you gab do is mindlessly repeat the inane talking points spoon fed to you by the mad king and his thugs. You claimed to have an advanced degree in psychology but you dishonor that profession by making absurd judgements about her mental health who you don’t know based on what other hateful jadrools are saying on the internet. Regardless of any of that , anyone who watch the videos can plainly see that the murderer fired at least two of the three shots from the side of the car as it moved away from him. There is no justification for the use of deadly force, but you seem to be too brain washed and blinded by hateful ideology to see that

Who are you to prove me wrong. So you dont know the law either.
She struck him end of story. In an act of obstruction and resisting arrest using a car as weapon. That justifies use of deadly force to stop her because she s using deadly force.
Now who does all these things? A person with mental issues. Used by democrats to be political vigilante and cannon fodder for democrats. S what kind of nind deos that. A mind thats emotionally disturbed and vulnerable.
Notice the pattern trans and vulnerable women all with emotional disturbances used by democrats.
One bullet hole was fired from the front as it was perfectly round.
Lets summarize
You dont understand psychology the law or ballistics which makes your opinion worthless

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Who are you to prove me wrong. So you dont know the law either.
She struck him end of story. In an act of obstruction and resisting arrest using a car as weapon. That justifies use of deadly force to stop her because she s using deadly force.
Now who does all these things? A person with mental issues. Used by democrats to be political vigilante and cannon fodder for democrats. S what kind of nind deos that. A mind thats emotionally disturbed and vulnerable.
Notice the pattern trans and vulnerable women all with emotional disturbances used by democrats.
One bullet hole was fired from the front as it was perfectly round.
Lets summarize
You dont understand psychology the law or ballistics which makes your opinion worthless

You sound a bit unhinged yourself, Pal. I think that I may be getting to you

 

[DigitalDrifter]

If they were dealing with people, illegal or not, who are trying to start fights with them, then I don't think people would have a problem.

When they're shooting people who aren't posing a threat, or when they're beating people up, pushing them on the floor when they don't pose a threat, then it's a ******* PROBLEM.

it's not hard to distinguish between the two, unless of course you're an idiot ICE officer who couldn't even pass the writing test. Which is seems a lot of them are.

Stay out of their way, do not interfere with them, do not harass them, and the only people who may end up getting shot is a violent illegal.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You dont understand psychology

He is on record as claiming that 2-3 year old boys are experiencing an "awakening sexuality". That is about all a person needs to know about him.

As to the actual psychology involved, what has happened is that miserably unhappy people with a low sense of self-esteem based upon all their personal failings in life are looking desperately for any way to feel superior to others instead of inferior. Virtue signaling provides them with such a way, and WHAT they are actually supporting (child sex trafficking and violent gang activity) is less important than the praise they receive from others as they conform to the ethos.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Stay out of their way, do not interfere with them, do not harass them, and the only people who may end up getting shot is a violent illegal.

 

[frigidweirdo]

As do all politicians.



Again, he’s playing up the politics, that’s what politicians do.



And there are different angles of the clip, and different opinions of it. I want to see what..whatever investigation comes up with. Maybe it might uncover something we haven’t seen.



Yeah, but left wing media didn’t same thing. They were calling it a murder from the very start, even before any real evidence came out.



Ok, most of our elected leaders are wealthy, or become wealthy while in office. Neither side seems to mind that.



Correct, and we actually do have proportional representation already. It’s why California has 54 votes and Wyoming has 3.



I agree, we all need to do better about being informed before speaking, but we also need to be better about letting politics sway our opinions just because we don’t like the other side.



Ok, I’m not sure what this is in response to, hard to follow when the posts they are not responding to are not included, sorry.



Sure, and you should protest the government for that, not people in the streets.

Your elected leaders, senators, representatives. That’s what petitioning your government looks like.



What evidence, besides maybe body cameras, would the state not have access to?



You have no idea if he’s guilty of anything with Epstein, you claim he does because you want to believe that. It’s all just assumption at this point.




Smoke and mirrors. What you “know” is what left wing media has been drilling into yours, and other people’s heads, for more than a decade. Trump was a “good guy” when he was a Clinton donor, but when he decided to run for president, he became the worst person in the world, and the media made sure to smear him and twist every single thing he ever did to make him look bad.

Has he done some shady stuff? Sure, but you don’t think the Clintons have done some shady stuff? Or many other democrats politicians? The only difference between them and trump is they didn’t go on a crusade against them, and twist context about every action they ever made.



Yes, we can dictate who they protest, because that’s what the cotus and law does. The cotus says you have the right to PETITION your GOVERNMENT for the redress of grievances. It doesn’t say you can harass agents, or stand in the street and block citizens, beat on their cars, prevent them from moving.

The police need to start enforcing this more.

You don't know what Proportional Representation is. And it's definitely not "proportional" comparing CA and WY.

Many politicians will lie. But they'll at least pretend they're not lying. Trump doesn't even bother. He'll tell you it's Thursday when it's Sunday.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Stay out of their way, do not interfere with them, do not harass them, and the only people who may end up getting shot is a violent illegal.

Sounds like the sort of thing an autocratic government would say.

 

[Lesh]

IDGAF who she was other than the fact that she was a domestic terrorist that impeded traffic, attempted to interfere with LE in the performance of their duties, failed to follow the legal instructions of an officer and assaulted a LE officer with a deadly weapon. Nothing else is relevant in spite of your feelings and TDS affliction.

I don’t GAF who she was other than someone gunned down by an ICE thug because she pissed him off

 

[ThisIsMe]

You don't know what Proportional Representation is. And it's definitely not "proportional" comparing CA and WY.

Many politicians will lie. But they'll at least pretend they're not lying. Trump doesn't even bother. He'll tell you it's Thursday when it's Sunday.

States with more people have more representatives, that’s proportional. What you’re asking for is more voting power.

Every state has 2 senators, who are there to represent the state as a whole, then they have any number of representatives, based on their population, to represent at the district level.

I don’t understand the semantics. Are you saying it’s more palatable for politicians to lie to you, as long as they are trying to cover the fact that they are lying?

 

[frigidweirdo]

States with more people have more representatives, that’s proportional. What you’re asking for is more voting power.

Every state has 2 senators, who are there to represent the state as a whole, then they have any number of representatives, based on their population, to represent at the district level.

I don’t understand the semantics. Are you saying it’s more palatable for politicians to lie to you, as long as they are trying to cover the fact that they are lying?

You're not even trying to understand, are you?

Proportional Representation is an electoral system. The US uses First Past The Post.

In an age where we have information at the tips of our fingers, and you can't even go to wikipedia and look it up?

Proportional representation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

First-past-the-post voting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There's nothing proportional about FPTP.

In 2017 in Germany the CDU/CSU got 37.27% of the votes with FPTP (because they do both PR and FPTP at the same time) and got 79% of the seats.

With PR they got 32.93% of the votes and 34.7% of the seats.

How can 79% of the seats from 37% of the votes be considered proportional?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Many lies have been told about Renee Good on this board, and by Trump and Noem. Who the people around her knew her to be. The very violent right is trying to give ICE the license to kill.

A bad driver?

Did I win a prize?