Who owned more slaves — George Washington, Mao, or Stalin?

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If you are comparing who controlled the largest number of slaves between George Washington and the two major communist powers of the 20th century, there is no competition—the communist regimes win hands down.

In general, the populations of Russia and China were so terrified and so submissive to the Communist Party that they often did things they knew were irrational and would cause suffering later. During the Great Leap Forward, for example, peasants were ordered to give up their tools, woks, and cooking cleavers to be melted down in backyard furnaces so Mao could meet his goal of making China the world’s leading iron producer.

So they complied, and the very tools they needed to make a living were turned into heaps of worthless pig iron. They knew what they were doing—they were surrendering the tools essential for survival—but they did it anyway, and many later suffered starvations as a result.

 

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Actually, it’s a meme. The specific example isn’t the point.

Slaves still did all the shit work, which allowed the “skilled, paid workforce of free citizens” to concentrate on the higher tasks. Do you think the slaves were just lounging around? Think better, son.

If you think enslaved people, had it bad, then consider this many poor white laborers in the antebellum South also lived under extremely harsh conditions. The only work many of them could get was the work considered too dangerous or too exhausting for enslaved laborers. Plantation owners often preferred to hire poor whites for hazardous jobs rather than risk the health or lives of enslaved people, who were considered valuable property.

Outside of those dangerous jobs, many poor whites struggled to survive. When hunting, fishing, and trapping were good, they managed, but during lean seasons they often faced hunger and even starvation. Historical studies—such as Wilfred M. McClay’s Masterless: Self and Society in Modern America (1994)—explore how class divisions, economic insecurity, and social hierarchy shaped the lives of non‑elite whites in the South and how they were marginalized within a slave‑based economy.

What made their situation even more difficult was that some slaveholders sent enslaved people into the woods during their limited free time to hunt, fish, trap, and gather wild foods to supplement plantation rations. This allowed slaveholders to save money on feeding the enslaved population, revealing a particularly stark form of exploitation and selfishness.

 

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The only work many of them could get was the work considered too dangerous or too exhausting for enslaved laborers. Plantation owners often preferred to hire poor whites for hazardous jobs rather than risk the health or lives of enslaved people, who were considered valuable property.

yes, the U.S. was the only country in the Americas where the Black slaves naturally reproduced themself. Demographers and historians note that unlike Brazil or the Caribbean—where mortality was extremely high and constant importation of enslaved Africans was required—the enslaved population in the United States grew primarily through natural increase, especially in the 18th–19th centuries.

By 1860, almost two‑thirds of all enslaved people in the New World lived in the U.S., despite the U.S. having received only about 6% of the total trans‑Atlantic slave trade. This growth was due to natural reproduction rather than new imports.

“So yes, the WASP slaveholders were too nice, too humane to risk the lives and health of the African slaves on dangerous work; the poor, always‑hungry white laborers would do it cheaply.”

 

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Actually, it’s a meme. The specific example isn’t the point.

Slaves still did all the shit work, which allowed the “skilled, paid workforce of free citizens” to concentrate on the higher tasks. Do you think the slaves were just lounging around? Think better, son.

The picture of the institution of slavery is much more complex than your meme.

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Actually, it’s a meme. The specific example isn’t the point.

Slaves still did all the shit work, which allowed the “skilled, paid workforce of free citizens” to concentrate on the higher tasks. Do you think the slaves were just lounging around? Think better, son.

If you think enslaved people, had it bad, then consider this many poor white laborers in the antebellum South also lived under extremely harsh conditions. The only work many of them could get was the work considered too dangerous or too exhausting for enslaved laborers. Plantation owners often preferred to hire poor...

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The picture of the institution of slavery is much more complex than your meme.

Are you under the impression that memes are supposed to be some deeply complex explanation of reality? Lulz

 

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An image of the only good type of communist-slavers

 

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If you are comparing who controlled the largest number of slaves between George Washington and the two major communist powers of the 20th century, there is no competition—the communist regimes win hands down.

In general, the populations of Russia and China were so terrified and so submissive to the Communist Party that they often did things they knew were irrational and would cause suffering later. During the Great Leap Forward, for example, peasants were ordered to give up their tools, woks, and cooking cleavers to be melted down in backyard furnaces so Mao could meet his goal of making China the world’s leading iron producer.

So they complied, and the very tools they needed to make a living were turned into heaps of worthless pig iron. They knew what they were doing—they were surrendering the tools essential for survival—but they did it anyway, and many later suffered starvations as a result.

Putin’s qazaliq — the campaigns in Chechnya, Moldova, Georgia, Belarus (in hybrid form) and Ukraine — serve to legitimize his claimed Mongol right to rule for the Mongol - Moscow imperialists. Each of these violent expeditions functions not only as conquest but as a ritual of political validation, echoing the old steppe tradition where raids established authority. Successful qazaliq does more than secure territory; it provides ideological justification for the existence of the Moscow empire itself. This is especially powerful in Afro‑Asian countries where democracy is weak or absent, allowing Moscow to present itself as a rightful imperial center, sustained by force and violent propaganda rather than consent.

"According to scholar Tjundeshev, Batu Khan was the true founder of Moscow statehood. han-China, India and Turkey also descend from the Mongols . For him, “it is so difficult for Moscow imperialists to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them." Moscow’s isolationism is also Mongol in nature. Foreigners are seen as enemies. ...."

Putin, heir to the Mongol Grand Khans

According to scholar Tjundeshev, Batu Khan was the true founder of Russian statehood. China, India and Turkey also descend from the Tatars. For him, “it is so difficult for Russians to

www.asianews.it

 

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It is all well documented, only the ignorant deny it. I am good with you being ignorant, it fits you.

Some say Bush killed over 1 million in Iraq

Iraq conflict has killed a million, says survey​

Some say not. Prove it wasn't over 1 million. It's well documented.

Oh, and MAO was a long time ago. If we aren't sure how many died in Iraq, how are YOU so sure MAO killed 1 million.

Watch. You will say it wasn't 1 million in Iraq but you will swallow that MAO killed MILLIONS because our leaders want to scare you away from that ISM.

What a dope you must be.

 

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Some say Bush killed over 1 million in Iraq

Iraq conflict has killed a million, says survey​

Some say not. Prove it wasn't over 1 million. It's well documented.

Oh, and MAO was a long time ago. If we aren't sure how many died in Iraq, how are YOU so sure MAO killed 1 million.

Watch. You will say it wasn't 1 million in Iraq but you will swallow that MAO killed MILLIONS because our leaders want to scare you away from that ISM.

What a dope you must be.

Not talking about Iraq but nice deflection. Idiot!

 

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Not talking about Iraq but nice deflection. Idiot!

You deny the count as much as I deny Mao's count, douchebag.

Hey, is Trump murdering Americans in Minneapolis a line for you? I notice Kyle Rittenhouse could carry a gun into a protest but now Kash Patel says no, you can not take a gun into a protest. This isn't the first time Republicans have shown their hypocrisy here. A liberal was shot for open carrying at a BLM protest and the Texas Governor pardoned him after a jury convicted him. He was SOOO ******* guilty, but a Republican gave him a pass for murdering a liberal. Now you are accepting Trump's excuses which is what I predicted.

The guy had 10 cops on top of him, one cop pulls his gun off of him THEN the other cop shot? LOL.

He's got a gun! BANG!!!! These ICE agents are ******* keystone cops.

 

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Some say Bush killed over 1 million in Iraq

Yes, RT, Iran, and Moscow imperialists are lying that the US killed over 1 million in Iraq. In reality, tribal, sectarian Arabs (fueled by Iran and Moscow) and Kurds killed many thousands, but nowhere near 1 million. Afro‑Asian thugs blocked our three‑state solution for Iraq; they are fully responsible for tribal, sectarian violence and deaths

 

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This is why it's so important to the Marxists to keep the public schools under their control. A new fresh set of ignorant young people who have never seen the horrors of Communism being told how great it is.

In a normal world, a guy like Mamdani would never have seen the light of day.

Tell me how American commies today can sell Marxism as the No. 1 human‑rights ideology after what they have done all over the world.

 

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You deny the count as much as I deny Mao's count, douchebag.

Hey, is Trump murdering Americans in Minneapolis a line for you? I notice Kyle Rittenhouse could carry a gun into a protest but now Kash Patel says no, you can not take a gun into a protest. This isn't the first time Republicans have shown their hypocrisy here. A liberal was shot for open carrying at a BLM protest and the Texas Governor pardoned him after a jury convicted him. He was SOOO ******* guilty, but a Republican gave him a pass for murdering a liberal. Now you are accepting Trump's excuses which is what I predicted.

The guy had 10 cops on top of him, one cop pulls his gun off of him THEN the other cop shot? LOL.

He's got a gun! BANG!!!! These ICE agents are ******* keystone cops.

If you need to believe conspiracies regarding Mao and the Holocaust be my guest, you are allowed to have the opinion, but you haven’t convinced me.

 

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If you need to believe conspiracies regarding Mao and the Holocaust be my guest, you are allowed to have the opinion, but you haven’t convinced me.

I listen to too many right wingers.

Tucker Carlson, the host of one of the country’s most popular podcasts, interviewed Nick Fuentes, a white-nationalist influencer, for more than two hours. The two men got along famously, and it was little wonder why. Carlson has become a fierce and obsessive critic of Israel; he has interviewed a Holocaust revisionist and said that “Christian Zionists” have “been seized by this brain virus.”

So in the aftermath of the Carlson-Fuentes conversation, Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a video defending Carlson, a “close friend” of the institution, against the “venomous coalition attacking him.” Heritage’s proper role, according to Roberts, is to “focus on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right.” Roberts said he may disagree with, and even abhor, some of what Fuentes has said, but he made clear that “canceling him is not the answer, either.” What Roberts didn’t anticipate is the backlash he received, from both within and outside Heritage.

“An old political poison is growing on the new right, led by podcasters and internet opportunists who are preoccupied with the Jews,” the conservative editorial board of The Wall Street Journal wrote. “It is spreading wider and faster than we thought, and it has even found an apologist in Kevin Roberts, president of the venerable Heritage Foundation.”

The Intellectual and Moral Decline of the American Right

The conservative backlash against Nick Fuentes has yet to challenge the president who had him over for dinner.

www.theatlantic.com

 

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I listen to too many right wingers.

Tucker Carlson, the host of one of the country’s most popular podcasts, interviewed Nick Fuentes, a white-nationalist influencer, for more than two hours. The two men got along famously, and it was little wonder why. Carlson has become a fierce and obsessive critic of Israel; he has interviewed a Holocaust revisionist and said that “Christian Zionists” have “been seized by this brain virus.”

So in the aftermath of the Carlson-Fuentes conversation, Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a video defending Carlson, a “close friend” of the institution, against the “venomous coalition attacking him.” Heritage’s proper role, according to Roberts, is to “focus on our political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right.” Roberts said he may disagree with, and even abhor, some of what Fuentes has said, but he made clear that “canceling him is not the answer, either.” What Roberts didn’t anticipate is the backlash he received, from both within and outside Heritage.

“An old political poison is growing on the new right, led by podcasters and internet opportunists who are preoccupied with the Jews,” the conservative editorial board of The Wall Street Journal wrote. “It is spreading wider and faster than we thought, and it has even found an apologist in Kevin Roberts, president of the venerable Heritage Foundation.”

The Intellectual and Moral Decline of the American Right

The conservative backlash against Nick Fuentes has yet to challenge the president who had him over for dinner.

www.theatlantic.com

Your post is too long and random for me to waste time on it, I don’t watch Carlson, never have.

 

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