Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[PaintMyHouse]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

Wrong.

You are more than welcome to your wrong opinion.

 

[saveliberty]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

Wrong.

You are more than welcome to your wrong opinion.

As are you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Great...

Then since all of those other services are covered by Obozocare, and are readily available from other providers (unless you are ready to admit Obozocare is a failure), the federal government doesn't need to finance PP...

Thanks for playing...

always funny when really, really stupid people who don't even know their own president's name try to play

p.s. there is no insurance plan called "obamacare". there is the Affordable Care Act which allowed millions of people to obtain affordable insurance. there are still many people who aren't insured or who are underinsured.

but it's good to know that you hate women so much that you think that the millions of cancer screenings, etc, that planned parenthood does every year, which forms the vast majority of that planned parenthood does, should be terminated because you "disapprove" of a legal act which isn't funded by your tax dollars.

good thing is no one cares what you approve of.

So you're saying Obozocare isn't working...

Please continue...

no, i'm saying there is no such thing as "obozocare" and that you don't understand the Affordable Care Act.

idiota.

So....how come you haven't provided the percentages of folks who disapprove of it?

It's about the same 60% you quoted earlier.

Sometimes percentages don't count, huh?

So you're willing to accept poll numbers as the arbiters of these issues?

How about the 2 to 1 support for continuing to fund PP? Will you concede to that?

How about the 2 to 1 opposition to repealing Roe v Wade? Will you concede to that?

English syntax is not one of your strong points.....

When you begin with "So..." you are extending something that has been said by the previous poster.

As I never said any such thing....you are merely offering one more example of why you are known as the NYLiar.

True?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I have given you her quotes proving otherwise. Here they are again

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

The very first quote in that link says Sanger called blacks "human weeds".

That's a lie. And you can tell it is a lie by the fact they put those words in total isolation without showing the full context. She makes NO reference to blacks in the statement that comes from.

In short, your source is full of shit.

Prove it. your saying it proves nothing. If the source is lying why hasn't PP sued them for slander?

Sanger opposed the eugenicists, as she states here:

• Eugenists imply or insist that a woman's first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her first duty to the state. We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother.

Margaret Sanger Quotes - Controversial Contraceptives Pioneer

We understand the rationalization that Sanger used to justify murdering pre-born children Gilligan. What you are simply incapable of understanding is that for that rationalization to be VALID... the woman's first duty is to CHOOSE WISELY in with whom, when and where she allows a man to insert his reproductive organ into her reproductive organ.

As once she CHOOSES to allow a man to DO SO... she has MADE HER CHOICE. And must from that point forward bear the responsibilities intrinsic to HER CHOICE!

Actually Sanger agreed with YOU on abortion:

"while there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."

Well, that would make the irony of your allegiance to her and THAT MUCH SWEETER, now wouldn't it Gilligan?

OH! You're an imbecile... so you likely can't understand that. Oh well... more's the pity. Because IT IS HYSTERICAL!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Then why don't you support sending women to prison for having abortions?

Why wouldn't she? She supports sending women to prison for carving up and dismembering Dogs... or shoplifting, or stealing other people's property.

Why would someone not be for sending a woman to prison for murdering her baby that was depending upon her protection as it was developing in her womb?

Well, unfortunately she's Korean, so your butchering of dogs analogy is a bit misguided, BUT, more importantly,

she will not state for the record her view on what the penalty SHOULD be for women having abortions.

Unlike you, crazed as you are, she is dishonest...

...she loves the rhetoric but runs from the reality.

PC is one of an ethnicity that will soon outnumber Hispanics in America and I say:

Hurry up...we need your skills!

I'm certain that they are just putting the final jewels on the crown I will be offered!

 

[Ava]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

I'm against taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood and PBS. It is not my job to secure your future. That is your job. If you don't want children, start your own birth control and if you want your present children to watch TV for kids, then find a way to pay for it yourself or start reading to your children. Novel idea. ( pun intended )

Obamacare should be paying for women's heath issues anyway. Remember this lie? O didn't tell you that most of them would not be in a network.....

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Obamacare is not gonna affect you! You like your doctor, you like your plan, you keep it."

 

[NYcarbineer]

The very first quote in that link says Sanger called blacks "human weeds".

That's a lie. And you can tell it is a lie by the fact they put those words in total isolation without showing the full context. She makes NO reference to blacks in the statement that comes from.

In short, your source is full of shit.

Prove it. your saying it proves nothing. If the source is lying why hasn't PP sued them for slander?

Sanger opposed the eugenicists, as she states here:

• Eugenists imply or insist that a woman's first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her first duty to the state. We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother.

Margaret Sanger Quotes - Controversial Contraceptives Pioneer

We understand the rationalization that Sanger used to justify murdering pre-born children Gilligan. What you are simply incapable of understanding is that for that rationalization to be VALID... the woman's first duty is to CHOOSE WISELY in with whom, when and where she allows a man to insert his reproductive organ into her reproductive organ.

As once she CHOOSES to allow a man to DO SO... she has MADE HER CHOICE. And must from that point forward bear the responsibilities intrinsic to HER CHOICE!

Actually Sanger agreed with YOU on abortion:

"while there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."

Well, that would make the irony of your allegiance to her and THAT MUCH SWEETER, now wouldn't it Gilligan?

OH! You're an imbecile... so you likely can't understand that. Oh well... more's the pity. Because IT IS HYSTERICAL!

No, i don't agree with her opposition to abortion. See how easy that was?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"no. it's part of the woman's body."
No, it isn't.

Since it dies the same time that she does, that matters very little, if at all.

How often is that the case?

And....it matters a great deal, since the death rate for abortion is very near 100%.

It doesn't matter how often. One can survive without the other, and one cannot.

False.

1. 
   According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500g (17.6 ounces) to survive.
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia

And when born that young, we hook them up to an artificial host, because they cannot survive on their own. See how that works?

Confederate General Wise, running from Union General Cox, refused to call it 'retreat,' called it, 'a retrograde movement.'

Nice retrograde movement you've made

 

[Ava]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

I'm against taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood and PBS. It is not my job to secure your future. That is your job. If you don't want children, start your own birth control and if you want your present children to watch TV for kids, then find a way to pay for it yourself or start reading to your children. Novel idea. ( pun intended )

Obamacare should be paying for women's heath issues anyway. Remember this lie? O didn't tell you that most of them would not be in a network.....

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Obamacare is not gonna affect you! You like your doctor, you like your plan, you keep it."

My doctor retired instead.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

I'm against taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood and PBS. It is not my job to secure your future. That is your job. If you don't want children, start your own birth control and if you want your present children to watch TV for kids, then find a way to pay for it yourself or start reading to your children. Novel idea. ( pun intended )

Obamacare should be paying for women's heath issues anyway. Remember this lie? O didn't tell you that most of them would not be in a network.....

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Obamacare is not gonna affect you! You like your doctor, you like your plan, you keep it."

An interesting position considering the burden you've placed on society, but so be it. And please fix your Sanger quote lies. That's what they are BTW.

 

[saveliberty]

I must have taken someone's free lunch? Nope, I pay for all of mine.

 

[NYcarbineer]

always funny when really, really stupid people who don't even know their own president's name try to play

p.s. there is no insurance plan called "obamacare". there is the Affordable Care Act which allowed millions of people to obtain affordable insurance. there are still many people who aren't insured or who are underinsured.

but it's good to know that you hate women so much that you think that the millions of cancer screenings, etc, that planned parenthood does every year, which forms the vast majority of that planned parenthood does, should be terminated because you "disapprove" of a legal act which isn't funded by your tax dollars.

good thing is no one cares what you approve of.

So you're saying Obozocare isn't working...

Please continue...

no, i'm saying there is no such thing as "obozocare" and that you don't understand the Affordable Care Act.

idiota.

So....how come you haven't provided the percentages of folks who disapprove of it?

It's about the same 60% you quoted earlier.

Sometimes percentages don't count, huh?

So you're willing to accept poll numbers as the arbiters of these issues?

How about the 2 to 1 support for continuing to fund PP? Will you concede to that?

How about the 2 to 1 opposition to repealing Roe v Wade? Will you concede to that?

English syntax is not one of your strong points.....

When you begin with "So..." you are extending something that has been said by the previous poster.

As I never said any such thing....you are merely offering one more example of why you are known as the NYLiar.

True?

If you didn't want to imply you accepted the poll numbers you shouldn't have done so.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Since it dies the same time that she does, that matters very little, if at all.

How often is that the case?

And....it matters a great deal, since the death rate for abortion is very near 100%.

It doesn't matter how often. One can survive without the other, and one cannot.

False.

1. 
   According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500g (17.6 ounces) to survive.
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia

And when born that young, we hook them up to an artificial host, because they cannot survive on their own. See how that works?

Confederate General Wise, running from Union General Cox, refused to call it 'retreat,' called it, 'a retrograde movement.'

Nice retrograde movement you've made

Nope, it's nothing of the kind. For many months if mommy dies they die. They are one and the same for a time, just deal with it,

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I must have taken someone's free lunch? Nope, I pay for all of mine.

So you believe, but that isn't true of course. You drive to lunch on roads others paid for, for starters.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"no. it's part of the woman's body."
No, it isn't.

Since it dies the same time that she does, that matters very little, if at all.

How often is that the case?

And....it matters a great deal, since the death rate for abortion is very near 100%.

Then why don't you support sending women to prison for having abortions?

Here's the plan:

1. 
   ...the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
   Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaHyde_Amendment
   Wikipedia

And for over 30 years Planned Parenthood has complied with that law and continues to do so. Nothing has changed.

Another of those classic lies from you, NYLiar.


Did you want to see the Hyde Amendment again?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Seems like the liberal crowd is firmly behind Planned Parenthood, private funding should not be a problem. Stop using public funds.

They do good work. Deal with it. We all fund lots of things we don't approve of personally.

I'm against taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood and PBS. It is not my job to secure your future. That is your job. If you don't want children, start your own birth control and if you want your present children to watch TV for kids, then find a way to pay for it yourself or start reading to your children. Novel idea. ( pun intended )

Obamacare should be paying for women's heath issues anyway. Remember this lie? O didn't tell you that most of them would not be in a network.....

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Obamacare is not gonna affect you! You like your doctor, you like your plan, you keep it."

My doctor retired instead.

Can't say as I blame them. It sucks to be a doctor now.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"no. it's part of the woman's body."
No, it isn't.

Since it dies the same time that she does, that matters very little, if at all.

How often is that the case?

And....it matters a great deal, since the death rate for abortion is very near 100%.

It doesn't matter how often. One can survive without the other, and one cannot.

False.

1. 
   According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500g (17.6 ounces) to survive.
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia

Roe v Wade allows states to ban late term abortion. What's your problem?

This:

1. 
   ...the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
   Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaHyde_Amendment
   Wikipedia
   

 

[saveliberty]

Abortion - A legacy of lies and killing for the left.

 

[NYcarbineer]

a baby in the womb is not part of the woman's body, it is a separate and distinct human being that is temporarliy dependent on the mother for nourishment.

but you dodged the question, if a fetus is not a human being why is the murderer of a pregnant woman charged with two counts of murder?

er... no. it's part of the woman's body. that was one of the issues examined by Roe v Wade. admittedly, it wasn't a perfect decision, but it got the job done.

then why stop at pre birth killing, why not allow the child to be killed up to the age of two if the mother finds it too difficult to deal with or is just tired of being a mother?

Shit, why not allow it up to 16 when kids can really become difficult?

Now you're opening up some real interesting issues, considering how retarded and difficult the Libs can be...

again... always funny when the stupidest of posters opine about others.

psssssst... over 60% of the country doesn't agree with you about planned parenthood.

and greater numbers disagree with the rabid right about most other issues.

60%?

Did you know that in 1938, Hitler entered Vienna, greeted by an enthusiastic crowd of up to one million people. A plebiscite was held in less than a month, and 99.7% of Austrians voted to join the Third Reich.


So....what do those percentages have to do with rectitude and/or morality?

I subscribe to the Ten Commandments.....how about you?

Have you forgotten that only a couple posts ago you cited poll numbers when it suited YOU?

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”

hilarious.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Since it dies the same time that she does, that matters very little, if at all.

How often is that the case?

And....it matters a great deal, since the death rate for abortion is very near 100%.

It doesn't matter how often. One can survive without the other, and one cannot.

False.

1. 
   According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500g (17.6 ounces) to survive.
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Fetal viability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia

Roe v Wade allows states to ban late term abortion. What's your problem?

This:

1. 
   ...the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
   Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaHyde_Amendment
   Wikipedia

Planned Parenthood has not been charged with violating the Hyde Amendment.