Said Buck at a Windsor 912 Group meeting, “And so I, I think that this idea of separation of church and state is not what was intended by the Constitution. Yes, we have separation of church and state. We don’t want a state-sponsored religion, but no, it doesn’t mean that, that, that churches and, and government should never interact, and that, that wall that people are trying to form between the two and punish religion is, is something that I think has gone in, in the wrong direction. And I think what President Bush did with faith-based programs that, that worked with the government is exactly the right idea.”