Zone1 Who is America in Bible Prophecy?

[DennisPTate]

I am thankful that back during the 1970's I was taught that the British Commonwealth and America are partly descended from the Patriarch Joseph and the promises given in Genesis chapter forty eight and forty nine play a role in how the British Commonwealth and America rose to such astonishing power 2520 years after the northern kingdom of Samaria had been taken into captivity by the Assyrian Empire.

This is one of the only really logical explanations for what happened over these five centuries that I have ever read.

I do believe that the Lost Tribes of Israel and not fully lost at all but our Creator knows where all of them are.

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Now in the past few decades we even have access to information on this topic by Orthodox Jewish historians and scholars like Mr. Yair Davidiy.

[Yair Davidiy] :

This gives us at least sixteen proofs each one of which is significant and which all deserve to be considered part of one comprehensive whole together with additional proofs from Scripture and evidence from other sources.​

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why Joseph?

 

[DennisPTate]

why Joseph?

Basically due to the astonishing wealth that was given to the British Commonwealth and to America beginning after the completion of seven years of punishment on Samaria - Joseph who was taken captive by the brutal Assyrian Empire.

Joseph is a fruitful bough,
a fruitful bough by a spring;
his branches run over the wall.
23The archers fiercely attacked him,
shot at him, and harassed him sorely;
24yet his bow remained unmoved,
his arms were made agile
by the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob
(by the name of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel),
25by the God of your father who will help you,
by God Almighty who will bless you
with blessings of heaven above,
blessings of the deep that couches beneath,
blessings of the breasts and of the womb.

The blessings of your father
are mighty beyond the blessings of the eternal mountains,
the bounties of the everlasting hills;
may they be on the head of Joseph,
and on the brow of him who was separate from his brothers.

Genesis 49

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For the record just like Ancient Samaria we have fallen into so many of the same problems and sins as the lost tribes of Israel got into while they were still known as descendants of Yacob - Israel.

 

[IM2]

America was invaded, and the Commnwealth are the resullt of a false doctrine called Inter Cetera. This is problematic if you want to talk about bible doctrine, the British Commonwealth, and America. If anything America is Babylon the Great.

 

[DennisPTate]

America was invaded, and the Commnwealth are the resullt of a false doctrine called Inter Cetera. This is problematic if you want to talk about bible doctrine, the British Commonwealth, and America. If anything America is Babylon the Great.

That is a fascinating comment because former Roman Catholic near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera who met with the resurrected Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus during a near death experience in 1967 was told by Jesus that America was indeed "Babylon the Great!"

Fascinating!

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Suddenly we stopped and I could see the incredible beauty of the place we had just
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[IM2]

That is a fascinating comment because former Roman Catholic near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera who met with the resurrected Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus during a near death experience in 1967 was told by Jesus that America was indeed "Babylon the Great!"

Fascinating!

America fits every example of Babylon the great. America, or the eagle, is not mentioned in end-time writings in Revelations, meaning the US is destroyed. And Babylon the great gets destroyed biblically in either 1 hour or 1 day, I can't remember the exact scripture, but I do know that Babylon the great goes down hard and quick, triggering global chaos and beginning the tribulation.

 

[DennisPTate]

America fits every example of Babylon the great. America, or the eagle, is not mentioned in end-time writings in Revelations, meaning the US is destroyed. And Babylon the great gets destroyed biblically in either 1 hour or 1 day, I can't remember the exact scripture, but I do know that Babylon the great goes down hard and quick, triggering global chaos and beginning the tribulation.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you just wrote fits well with visionary dreams or visions that were given to several guests on the Sid Roth program about a decade ago. After the eighteen minute mark in this video is a vision of a massive earthquake in America that divides America after America DIVIDES THE LAND THAT BELONGS TO G-D!!!

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America​

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And your comment also fits with the vision of an "Exodus of USA Jews" up to Canada for a number of weeks or months or years or perhaps decades before they make full fledged Aliyah to The Holy Land?

The dream or vision of an "Exodus USA" is explained after the seventeen minute mark in this interview with Messianic Pastor David Herzog.

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[IM2]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What you just wrote fits well with visionary dreams or visions that were given to several guests on the Sid Roth program about a decade ago. After the eighteen minute mark in this video is a vision of a massive earthquake in America that divides America after America DIVIDES THE LAND THAT BELONGS TO G-D!!!

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America​

Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!


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And your comment also fits with the vision of an "Exodus of USA Jews" up to Canada for a number of weeks or months or years or perhaps decades before they make full fledged Aliyah to The Holy Land?

The dream or vision of an "Exodus USA" is explained after the seventeen minute mark in this interview with Messianic Pastor David Herzog.

David Herzog on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Glory Zone​

Once the tribulation starts, people are instructed to flee. Those who have stayed in scripture will understand the signs, and others who have doubted or don't believe will remain in the chaos. Canada may very well be that safe place for all who flee from here. If it is, I'm going if I am around when it hits.

 

[IM2]

After the eighteen minute mark in this video is a vision of a massive earthquake in America that divides America after America DIVIDES THE LAND THAT BELONGS TO G-D!!!

Wow! I was wondering hw the destruction would take place. This makes a lot of sense.

 

[DennisPTate]

Once the tribulation starts, people are instructed to flee. Those who have stayed in scripture will understand the signs, and others who have doubted or don't believe will remain in the chaos. Canada may very well be that safe place for all who flee from here. If it is, I'm going if I am around when it hits.

Between now and when this occurs YOU and your friends and family could discuss and get prepared for "Exodus USA!"

Perhaps this is a part of the mission that you had planned from before you were even conceived?

Jeremiah 16:14¶
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers."

"Escape, I say, My people from this land, to the
North
before the great and terrible days, for I have given
you twelve hundred and three score days to prophesy
to
this nation of America, in mercy and justice before
my
wrath is poured out in full." (William Deagle M. D.)

I just did an internet search for near death experiencer William Deagle M. D. and this came up:

William Deagle M.D. has publicly discussed a near-death experience (NDE) which he claims occurred after he was allegedly poisoned by military interrogators.
According to a profile published in 2007, Deagle, a former physician whose medical license was suspended in 2004 following patient overdoses and a death, alleged that he was interrogated by the military. During this time, he claims he was poisoned, which led to the NDE

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Dr. William Deagle

"The tiger that you don't believe in is the tiger that can eat you" According to the Clay and Iron Ministries website Dr. William Deagle is...

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I personally read Dr. William Deagle's book "Clay and Iron" back in 1999 and I would believe his testimony before I would believe what his critics say about him. On the other hand what he was shown did not come to pass exactly as was shown, [ I believe because Dr. Deagle and many other like Dannion Brinkley were warning America and we made some positive steps in the right direction and thus "Irridium System Mark of the Beast was delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed....... so far]?!

 

[IM2]

Between now and when this occurs YOU and your friends and family could discuss and get prepared for "Exodus USA!"

Perhaps this is a part of the mission that you had planned from before you were even conceived?






I just did an internet search for near death experiencer William Deagle M. D. and this came up:

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Clay and Iron, broadcasting on BBS Radio TV!

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Dr. William Deagle

"The tiger that you don't believe in is the tiger that can eat you" According to the Clay and Iron Ministries website Dr. William Deagle is...

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I personally read Dr. William Deagle's book "Clay and Iron" back in 1999 and I would believe his testimony before I would believe what his critics say about him. On the other hand what he was shown did not come to pass exactly as was shown, [ I believe because Dr. Deagle and many other like Dannion Brinkley were warning America and we made some positive steps in the right direction and thus "Irridium System Mark of the Beast was delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed....... so far]?!

I generally take most visions people see seriously if the bible backs them. What I don't trust is when people start naming particular dates for when such things are going to happen, because they don't know that, only God does.

 

[DennisPTate]

I generally take most visions people see seriously if the bible backs them. What I don't trust is when people start naming particular dates for when such things are going to happen, because they don't know that, only God does.

Good point. Prophets should be aware that what they were shown could be delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed and then prevented altogether, [if what I am finding out about our living in a Multiverse is correct]?

 

[IM2]

Good point. Prophets should be aware that what they were shown could be delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed and then prevented altogether, [if what I am finding out about our living in a Multiverse is correct]?

I don't know if God delays things on a global scale or in the timeline he has set for the earth, but individually, I think he does in order for us to gain salvation. I do not even begin to think I can speak for God; I'm just guessing.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't know if God delays things on a global scale or in the timeline he has set for the earth, but individually, I think he does in order for us to gain salvation. I do not even begin to think I can speak for God; I'm just guessing.

I read about near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley back during the 1990's. The nearly 120 visions for the future that he was given were off the scale impressive .... BUT..... some of them were delayed by a decade and others were delayed by more than a decade..... but well over eighty percent if not ninety percent of what he was shown about the future has already came to pass.

[Dannion Brinkley]

BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)

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[IM2]

I read about near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley back during the 1990's. The nearly 120 visions for the future that he was given were off the scale impressive .... BUT..... some of them were delayed by a decade and others were delayed by more than a decade..... but well over eighty percent if not ninety percent of what he was shown about the future has already came to pass.

I don't know if they were delayed, I think that if he gave a time or date prediction, his prediction was off. However, that is irrelevant considering that what he said would happen has happened.

 

[IM2]

Now this:

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."

Is incredible because he is pretty much predicting the system that has begun in some places already. It is probably not exact, but on a rudimentary level, he is on the right track as to naming a system of worldwide control.

 

[DennisPTate]

Now this:

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."

Is incredible because he is pretty much predicting the system that has begun in some places already. It is probably not exact, but on a rudimentary level, he is on the right track as to naming a system of worldwide control.

Yes, and the fact that he was shown all about this way back in 1975 was pretty amazing.

We are in desperate need of a spiritual awakening that can delay and delay this "Mark of the Beast." Our prayers do affect the future of America and the world greatly. Our Creator wants to fill the Marriage Supper of the Lamb at this time with more and more and more redeemed souls.

3. A Successful Apocalyptic Prophecy is One That Doesn’t Happen​

The goal of apocalyptic prophecy is to warn people to prevent it from happening. The reason prophecies are given to humanity is to change current trends and change enough people so that the prophecy will be diverted. Well-known prophecies that were foretold to occur around the millennium have not happened. Skeptics point out that this proves these prophecies to be false. But a better understanding of prophecy reveals that either (a) or (b) is true:

(a) The prophecy was successful in permanently diverting the outcome by the raising of the world’s consciousness.

(b) Because the prophecy gives an exact date, the prophecy may still be valid and the date may be wrong.

Prophecies from very credible sources rarely give an exact date. Even Jesus said he didn’t know the date and time when he would return. This should be a lesson to everyone who comes across a prophecy with an exact date.

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[IM2]

Yes, and the fact that he was shown all about this way back in 1975 was pretty amazing.

We are in desperate need of a spiritual awakening that can delay and delay this "Mark of the Beast." Our prayers do affect the future of America and the world greatly. Our Creator wants to fill the Marriage Supper of the Lamb at this time with more and more and more redeemed souls.

1975? Wow. He definitely had to be given that by the lord. I don't think God's plan can be delayed. But what we can do is stay awake and vigilant, and inform our families, friends, and anyone we know when we see the signs.

 

[DennisPTate]

1975? Wow. He definitely had to be given that by the lord. I don't think God's plan can be delayed. But what we can do is stay awake and vigilant, and inform our families, friends, and anyone we know when we see the signs.

Yes, I have the impression that the Being of Light of near death experience fame has given Mr. Dannion Brinkley an Einstein level IQ in virtually every category. I have actually been in contact with him for quite a few years and I am actually being pretty serious with the following suggestion:

Thread 'Dannion Brinkley, David Icke and Eric Roberts for V. P. for 2028?'

Dec 23, 2025

I have obsessively researched near death experience accounts since 1990. I ended up in contact with many published near death experiencers.

I offered to Mr. Dannion Brinkley to promote a possible campaign by him to become Vice President of the USA and Dannion essentially wrote to me "Have fun, me and Trump... LOL?!"

Later on Dannion wrote to me that I had to stop promoting him for the office of Vice President due to his health issues but now in 2025 things look different.

Dannion has an excellent friend who could assist him 24/ 7 / 365 in the form of Mr. David Icke, and Mr. Eric...

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